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So is there still time for a Pandora's Tower (North America)?

Now that The Last Story is in stores, in the post or in your pants, does anybody think there is a chance that Pandora's Tower will still come out?

Obviously the primary concern is that the Wii is a dead zone and the Wii U is a few months away, but hey, XSEED and Atlus kept on keeping on with PSP releases far passed its death and successor, so what's stopping somebody from taking a last chance with Pandora's Tower? Wouldn't Nintendo want to have more than Kirby Collection on their schedule?

Or maybe the game could show up as a digital download on the Wii U eShop?
 
PT and PZ2 are definitely worth importing if they're not released there.

Two of the best Wii games I've played.
 
I doubt it.

First, because a game typically has at a bare minimum a 4-5 month run-up to release, so we're not really asking "is September 2012 a viable release period for Pandora's Tower", we're asking "is Spring 2013 a viable release period for Pandora's Tower".

Second, because despite XSeed taking a chance with The Last Story, I don't genuinely believe there's any retail market for new Wii software. TLS might be the final major release, but the steady flow of releases hasn't existed since early 2011. I'm not saying "only shovelware sells on Wii", I'm saying "Stores only stock shovelware on Wii at this juncture". I think something like Just Dance 8 could still make it out, but largely on the basis that declining returns on a hugely profitable megafranchise will still be worth it--the same way Madden still comes out years after a hardware is effectively dead.

Third, because of the game itself. I think all games should be localized, especially from major publishers. Don't get me wrong. But it'd be incorrect to assert that all games have an equal chance of being localized, regardless of their genre and quality. I don't think Pandora's Tower is well suited to the North American market on the basis of its genre (not that the genre can't sell, but that I doubt it would have done well on Wii even at its peak) and... frankly, its quality. I know the game has its fans and I know it's not dreadful, but it doesn't really have anything about it besides the mystique of being an unlocalized Japanese game that really screams out to people "You know that Wii you've pretty much moved on for it? You GOTTA check this one last game out." It was always the lowest profile of the three "Rainfall" games, and to me it was there as an also-ran. "Xenoblade, possibly the most universally well received RPG of the generation, epic in scope, you won't believe it's possible on the Wii. The Last Story, from the creator of Final Fantasy. Pandora's Tower, another game that didn't get localized"

If the Wii had a viable digital platform, I could see the game getting a release. A lot of the PSP releases coming out now, even if they do get a physical print run, are making money on the basis of the PSP's digital store. That's something Sony has cultivated for a long time. Clearly Nintendo has realized that you are able to sell full games digitally, but whether or not their platform stewardship on the Wii U will build the broad catalog and vibrant user ecosystem necessary to make digital a viable second chance for Wii games of old, I have no idea.
 
in world filled with peace and cupcakes, nintendo would have those 3 games (pandora, xeno, and last) remade for the wii u. and also that game where you play as an angel and slice up monsters...forgot the name (not kid icarus). so yeah 4 games, remade for the HD wii u. for those that own the wii version, they get the game for free via nintendo digital store.
 
Hopefully, in my opinion it's better than both Xenoblade and The Last Story. The voice acting is superb.

I'd score the three games as follows:

Pandora's Tower - 92%
The Last Story - 96%
Xenoblade Chronicles - 100%

Regardless, all three are superb, in my opinion.
 
Might as well ask if Fatal Frame 4 or Project Zero 2 or Captain Rainbow or Disaster or Earth Seeker have a chance at getting localized. I highly doubt it.

...but I want them all
 
Even though I would like this game to come to NA, I really think the chances are very low and even less with the Wii U being released in a few months.

All three games, Pandora's Tower, The Last Story and Xenoblade Chronicles are great, it's a shame that the last one would probably never come to NA, but hey we got 2 out of 3 and that's good, right?
 
All three games, Pandora's Tower, The Last Story and Xenoblade Chronicles are great, it's a shame that the last one would probably never come to NA, but hey we got 2 out of 3 and that's good, right?

It would be OK if the game that got left out was Last Story. As it stands, NA is missing out on a great game which wouldn't cost Nintendo anything extra to localize.

To anybody in NA who's interested in the game, I would suggesting taking 2 seconds to install the Homebrew Channel on your Wii and importing the PAL version, it's well worth it.
 
hmmm, its currently selling for 37 EUR. I think I'l wait a bit longer.

On another note, USGAF seems to be pretty quiet about not getting this gem:

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I was expecting more bitching and moaning. It really is a fantastic horror game.
 
in world filled with peace and cupcakes, nintendo would have those 3 games (pandora, xeno, and last) remade for the wii u. and also that game where you play as an angel and slice up monsters...forgot the name (not kid icarus). so yeah 4 games, remade for the HD wii u. for those that own the wii version, they get the game for free via nintendo digital store.

I believe you're talking about Zangeki No Reginleiv. Another mystic gem of a game that never got localized...

Was it good?
I might import a Japanese copy if so.

It was one of the very few games that supported Motion Plus.

EDIT: here is the boxart:

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Also another game that I was interested into but never got a chance, Ikenie No Yoru (Night of the Sacrifice) a survival horror game that supported the Wii Balance Board.

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Project zero 2 is easily one of the best wii games out there. NOA is fucking retarded for not bringing it over.
 
Pandora's Tower is not very good, game play wise. The story and art direction is very interesting... but the game play is bland PS2 Pre-God of War 3rd person action. It's not overly compelling.

Disaster Day of Crisis and Fatal Frame 2/4JP are both way way more worthy titles of being released. Or importing. Just import them, they're good.
 
If I were to guess? NoA would use this title to gauge the popularity of digital distribution-only releases for niche titles on WiiU and release it that way.
 
Honestly, at this stage of the game Nintendo of America has clearly decided they're simply no longer interested. Hack yer Wii and import the UK version, ShopTo sells it for ÂŁ25 excluding delivery (approx US$40) and will deliver anywhere the Royal Mail delivers stuff to.
 
hmmm, its currently selling for 37 EUR. I think I'l wait a bit longer.

On another note, USGAF seems to be pretty quiet about not getting this gem:

project-zero-2-wii-edition-box-art.jpg


I was expecting more bitching and moaning. It really is a fantastic horror game.

I have the Xbox director's cut, but yes, it is amazing.
 
Was Operation Rainfall really a factor to bring Xenoblade? In that case I wish they could pick Fatal Frame and Pandora's.

To the extent that Operation Rainfall was basically an anti-Nintendo PR campaign (even if that wasn't their intent) that got the attention of a lot of big gaming sites/media, yes, I think it helped. Had they not brought attention to the whole fiasco NoA would have been content just canceling the game as they had originally planned.

Was it the sole reason it was localized? Probably not. It's a quality game even if it's not in a genre that sells particularly well. It's something to feed those pesky core gamers for a while, and it didn't require a lot of effort to release. Plus Gamestop was involved to some degree, likely agreeing to carry the torch for the marketing campaign (because apart from social media I never saw Nintendo advertise the game at all).

Would Nintendo have picked up Last Story too? Who knows.
 
hahah, i truly wish. but quite unlikely.

Well, it's not like there's localization that needs to be paid for, Europe already took care of that. So the only expense to making it a DD title is the hosting cost, which is next to none considering the framework already has to be there for other titles.

The risk-to-reward ratio is quite small, so it's an easy sell. People who want it and know what it is will buy it.
 
They could always release it in that 4/5 month stretch of time post-Wii U launch when there's nothing coming out for it. You know, like Minish Cap.
 
I didn't know Pandora's Tower had a European release. I completely missed it somehow.

Plus Gamestop was involved to some degree, likely agreeing to carry the torch for the marketing campaign (because apart from social media I never saw Nintendo advertise the game at all).

The rumor was that Gamestop agreed to pay part of the manufacturing costs for Xenoblade. That's why it was a Gamestop exclusive.
 
Don't know why you don't just import it, I had to import the vast majority of my ps2 rpg collection from the states since a metric tonne of them never made it over here (UK). I wouldn't bother playing the waiting game, if its available in a language you understand and there are methods to easily play it, just import.
 
Think we'd have heard about it by now. But I'd love to have all 3 of the Rainfall games. I guess it's a victory that we even have 2 of the 3.
 
It's too bad that Earth Seeker never got mentioned in these campaigns... sure, it didn't sound like the best game ever, but it could have been fun. (I know, it's not first party published. Still, it could be mentioned.)
 
Bumbity bump because I want this game to exist here!

I honestly believe there is still time, hell, we can still hear about PSP games getting released.

Pleeeaaaase, any publisher!!! D:
 
The rumor was that Gamestop agreed to pay part of the manufacturing costs for Xenoblade. That's why it was a Gamestop exclusive.

The manager of my local gamestop said this was exactly the reason why we were able to get xenoblade in the states.
 
It's a shame most people aren't going to be able to experience Pandora's Tower in the states. I imported the PAL version a few months back and it quickly became one of my favorite Wii titles. I'm not going to go too in depth with why I loved the game so much, but it was basically a love letter to PS2-era character driven action games (Devil May Cry, God of War, Rygar, Castlevania: Lament of Innocence, etc.)

I've played all of the Operation Rainfall titles at this point and I'd have to say that Pandora's was my personal favorite of the bunch (with Xenoblade as a very, very close second). I highly suggest importing the game for those who REALLY want to play it.

There's still a laundry list of Wii titles that we need in the states, including a proper Pandora's Tower release. Earth Seeker (I also don't care if it's apparently mediocre/bad, I want to play it), Captain Rainbow, Project Zero 2, and the other titles people have already mentioned in this thread. I guess we've set sail on the localization front for these games at this point. Oh well. =(
 
Another Code R
Zengeki No Regenleiv
Fatal Frame IV/II
Pandora's Tower
Disaster Day of Crisis

Plus Xenoblade, The Last Story and Rhythm Heaven Fever would have given the Wii one helluva send-off in its final-year. It's a shame.
 
I'd like to get Pandora's Tower and the Fatal Frame 2 remake in the States... but frankly, I'm just happy they got an English release of some sort. Importing is easy enough, so even if they never come out in the US, it's not a loss.

That said, it's kind of sad that Nintendo did their damndest to squander some of best stuff ever to hit the system. I think that if the Wii had more titles like those Operation Rainfall tried to have brought Westward, it could have been one of the best systems of all time. Shame Nintendo didn't seem to care much about such quality stuff.
 
Well, this is when I mod my Wii for imports and custom SSBB character texture and stage hacks, and hopefully some english patches are made available for Pandora's Tower, as well as Earth Seeker and Zangeki no Reginleiv
 
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