19 people shot in overnight shootings across Chicago

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America is a big country. Stay out of the ghettos in a handful of cities and you are perfectly safe.

Also depending on your skin color/sexuality/country of origin, stay out of rural areas in a handful of states.

Really... just keep your head down and wear a bullet proof vest.
 
I wonder if anyone is making a documentary about this summer in Chicago. It's really scary and morbidly fascinating.
 
America is a big country. Stay out of the ghettos in a handful of cities and you are perfectly safe.

Not true at all. I mean, you'll be safer but there's no guarantee anywhere. It will definitely spill over as we have more and more poor and destitute people. I live in supposedly safe suburb of Boston and just this weekend a visiting friend of mine had his car broken into. This is where the car theft rates are half the norm in Boston. When you don't take care of your poor or give them opportunities, it is natural people to resort to seedier ways of progressing in their world. And when you have a gun culture to go a long with that, it'll be that much more dangerous.

When Republicans talk about making abortions illegal and at the same time, not offering social services to help the poor, this is what you'll get. Unfortunately for the inner city blacks, they've been going through this cycle for a long time now and nobody cares until it starts to spill over the wealthier neighborhoods.
 
Also depending on your skin color/sexuality/country of origin, stay out of rural areas in a handful of states.

Really... just keep your head down and wear a bullet proof vest.

I must have missed all the news stories about the shootings in Alabama.
 
Yes, its gun laws that are causing the shootings.

This.

Especially in the case of Chicago, just saying "BAN ALL TEH GUNZ" is a lazy, thoughtless answer that won't solve the problem.

Getting rid of guns won't change the impoverished, segregated conditions that fosters this kind of violence in America's inner-cities.
 
Why is this NOT news?

Im only hearing about this on GAF.....i heard about the 2* deaths at the Empire State Building on the news.....but 19 people getting shot and im not seeing this anywhere.

What the hell america, whats going on over there??
 
I wonder if anyone is making a documentary about this summer in Chicago. It's really scary and morbidly fascinating.
It's not about this summer, but if you want a good documentary on the general subject, check out Interrupters. It was just done in 2011.

Why is this NOT news?

Im only hearing about this on GAF.....i heard about the 2* deaths at the Empire State Building on the news.....but 19 people getting shot and im not seeing this anywhere.

What the hell america, whats going on over there??
There's news Americans like to hear about, and news Americans don't like to hear about. There's news the media wants you to pay attention to, and news the media doesn't.
 
Why is this NOT news?

Im only hearing about this on GAF.....i heard about the 2* deaths at the Empire State Building on the news.....but 19 people getting shot and im not seeing this anywhere.

What the hell america, whats going on over there??

1. Rahm Emanual is a fucking idiot.

2. This is sadly so common in Chicago that this is a weekly occurrence.
 
This.

Especially in the case of Chicago, just saying "BAN ALL TEH GUNZ" is a lazy, thoughtless answer that won't solve the problem.

Getting rid of guns won't change the impoverished, segregated conditions that fosters this kind of violence in America's inner-cities.

Other civilized countries have poor people too but the dont go on a rampage regulary.
 
Not true at all. I mean, you'll be safer but there's no guarantee anywhere. It will definitely spill over as we have more and more poor and destitute people. I live in supposedly safe suburb of Boston and just this weekend a visiting friend of mine had his car broken into. This is where the car theft rates are half the norm in Boston. When you don't take care of your poor or give them opportunities, it is natural people to resort to seedier ways of progressing in their world. And when you have a gun culture to go a long with that, it'll be that much more dangerous.

When Republicans talk about making abortions illegal and at the same time, not offering social services to help the poor, this is what you'll get. Unfortunately for the inner city blacks, they've been going through this cycle for a long time now and nobody cares until it starts to spill over the wealthier neighborhoods.

Obviously there is no place in the world with the probability of not getting shot is zero. There is a non zero probability that you will accidentally a watermelon seed and a tree will grow out of your ass also. Most places the crime rate is low enough were you can feel perfectly safe.
 
1. Rahm Emanual is a fucking idiot.

2. This is sadly so common in Chicago that this is a weekly occurrence.

Both of these are very sad and true.

I'm not even shocked when I hear that there where shootings anymore since it happens so fucking often.

Fuck these people already.
 
So is this actually an accepted thing? That Chicago is dangerous you have a very legitimate chance of getting shot? Why would anyone want to live their, it sounds like my worst nightmare...

Yes, because the whole city is exactly as dangers as its worst neighborhoods...

I live in the city and I am more miles away from these shootings than a lot of suburbanites.
 
Other civilized countries have poor people too but the dont go on a rampage regulary.

Other civilized countries were not born of revolution from an armed citizenry.

Think about that for a second.

Because of those origins, American when forming a government wanted the right to bear arms to be a fundamental part of society. In order to preotect themselves from the injustices which occurred under British rule. However, there were neough other rules codified in that America didn't become a governement which ruled by the bullet, but rather the ballot.

Other countries where governements have been overthrown through violent means, those that lead the uprisings, very rarely have set themselves to the task of establishing governing code which tries to reestablish equilibrium, unfortunately.

Also, its was the same sotry, just a different twist back in older countries where poor people wenre't allowed to have arms either. It was just swords instead of firearms.
 
It's not about this summer, but if you want a good documentary on the general subject, check out Interrupters. It was just done in 2011.


There's news Americans like to hear about, and news Americans don't like to hear about. There's news the media wants you to pay attention to, and news the media doesn't.

Was actually planning to check it out. Just heard about it on NPR, Philadelphia is adopting an outreach program similar to the one used in Chicago. I believe it's being screened in the city this week. Philadelphia is having a pretty terrible year for gun violence too.
 
I wonder if anyone is making a documentary about this summer in Chicago. It's really scary and morbidly fascinating.

Let's not generalize all of Chicago, the south and west side are the shithole of our city. The north side while far from perfect is where the decent people live, i wish the south and west side would burn to the ground, they give our city a bad name and a bad reputation.
 
is there some kind of turf war going on right now in chicago? i know gang areas always have shootings but 19 people is way more than usual.
 
Just hop on the Chicago Tribune on a random day. Chicago is terrible with violent crime in the bad parts of town. Lincoln park, Wicker Park, Wrigleyville, and many parts of Chicago are extremely safe for people who are trying to condemn the city.
 
Let's not generalize all of Chicago, the south and west side are the shithole of our city. The north side while far from perfect is where the decent people live, i wish the south and west side would burn to the ground, they give our city a bad name and a bad reputation.

I'll tell my parents, grandparents, and cousins how indecent they are. Hopefully I reach them before the firebombing campaign commences.
 
is there some kind of turf war going on right now in chicago? i know gang areas always have shootings but 19 people is way more than usual.

Apparently the Chicago gangs are more splintered and "unprofessional" than historically, which is cause greater and more reckless violence.
 
Let's not generalize all of Chicago, the south and west side are the shithole of our city. The north side while far from perfect is where the decent people live, i wish the south and west side would burn to the ground, they give our city a bad name and a bad reputation.
I know it's not the whole city. I don't even think that's a common perception, but it's shame if true.
 
I'll tell my parents, grandparents, and cousins how indecent they are. Hopefully I reach them before the firebombing campaign commences.

Meh, if you live in Chicago you know i'm telling the truth with a smidge of hyperbole. Let me tell you, as a life long Chicagoan the south and west side are just that bad.
 
i wish the south and west side would burn to the ground, they give our city a bad name and a bad reputation.

I have the exact opposite opinion. The North side is full of pretentious white families living the suburban dream. That is not Chicago. Chicago is the South and the West. Fuck the north side!
 
Other civilized countries were not born of revolution from an armed citizenry.

Think about that for a second.

Because of those origins, American when forming a government wanted the right to bear arms to be a fundamental part of society. In order to preotect themselves from the injustices which occurred under British rule. However, there were neough other rules codified in that America didn't become a governement which ruled by the bullet, but rather the ballot.

Other countries where governements have been overthrown through violent means, those that lead the uprisings, very rarely have set themselves to the task of establishing governing code which tries to reestablish equilibrium, unfortunately.

Also, its was the same sotry, just a different twist back in older countries where poor people wenre't allowed to have arms either. It was just swords instead of firearms.

Thats a long time ago my friend. There is no force whatsoever that tries to invade your country.

So why keep the guns? They dont protect anything.
 
Obviously there is no place in the world with the probability of not getting shot is zero. There is a non zero probability that you will accidentally a watermelon seed and a tree will grow out of your ass also. Most places the crime rate is low enough were you can feel perfectly safe.

Well yeah, as long as it remains localized, most people aren't going to do anything about it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those guys who lives in paranoia. I lived close to the sketchy places in Buffalo for a couple years and made it out alright. Living in the US isn't actually that scary in most areas, it's just where there is violence, it's pretty bad.
 
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