Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 1 - Sundays on AMC

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-Pyromaniac- said:
Lets all be super sympathetic for Mike for the week now, even though he was just as bad a criminal as any of em.

COMMENCE. We have to make this week go by fast.
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Mike and Christopher Moltisanti. Tony and Walt...

I knew it was coming but damn. I hope Pinkman gets vengeance. Mike was completely ungrateful to the end, they were both too stubborn.
 
Mike is a tragic character, though. He wants to die in peace because he knows he's been cheating death for too long.

He also knew Jesse would never stand for an all-out repudiation for Walt on his part.

He's this expert hitman but he's weighted down with a million anchors that keep him from controlling this situation.
 
I know Lydia and a bunch of other off screen guys are still around but it's crazy to think how pretty much everyone we knew from the Gus days is now dead. Feels weird.
 
Natiko said:
The moment Mike started walking away I told my girlfriend Walt was going to kill him. Man, this is just taking a downward spiral. I have a feeling this cliffhanger is going to be brutal.
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The moment we were shown Walt looking at the gun in the bag I knew what was going down.
 
I've been convinced all season that the writers were very intentionally making Walt the villain this year. Up until this point, they have made him the villain to the characters of the show. Now they are making him the villain to the audience.

The worst part is how absolutely petty Mike's murder was. "I could have just asked Lydia." Even the hardest Walt defenders are left without a justification for this one.
 
blame space said:
i'm chill bro. mike is right. walt's been on a delusional ego trip and it's completely self-destructive.
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That's just it. Walt will never be as powerful as he wants to be. He's gonna be chasing a fleeting feeling until he inevitably crosses the wrong (or right?) line.
 
Leona Lewis said:
It was supposed to be. Walt isn't some hardened killer, as he's usually handled any foes indirectly (Jesse, Don Salamanca, etc.) - this is only the second time he's shot someone.
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he still pushed the actions of killing onto others....he's just as bad
Mr. Blonde said:
if walt had gone into the scene killing mike without any words id consider walt really evil. as it stands he got angry and shot him is different than premeditated murder.
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This is insane...
 
I don't buy that Mike would let Walt get the bag and bring it to him. Slightly contrived IMO. But the scene we got out of it was pretty great so I can ignore it.
 
BigAT said:
I've been convinced all season that the writers were very intentionally making Walt the villain this year. Up until this point, they have made him the villain to the characters of the show. Now they are making him the villain to the audience.

The worst part is how absolutely petty Mike's murder was. "I could have just asked Lydia." Even the hardest Walt defenders are left without a justification for this one.
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Yeah. The entire scene he looked shaken up, but the way he delivered that line...holy shit. He wasn't even thinking about the fact Mike was actually dying.
 
I figured that Walt would shoot him right off the bat, or as soon as he turned around. His acting and the walk back to the car, to me, implied he wasn't 100% gonna kill him (depended on how the conversation went).
 
BigAT said:
I've been convinced all season that the writers were very intentionally making Walt the villain this year. Up until this point, they have made him the villain to the characters of the show. Now they are making him the villain to the audience.

The worst part is how absolutely petty Mike's murder was. "I could have just asked Lydia." Even the hardest Walt defenders are left without a justification for this one.
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What was petty about it? Walt risked getting in trouble to tip off Mike about the police... Although, yes I understand it served Walt's interests too. He also risked getting caught getting that bag to Mike. All Mike had to do was give him some names. Mike's cockiness and his shit attitude toward Walt cost him. He acted like a professional but it was his decision that cost him with the police. Walt had nothing to do with that lawyer getting caught. Mike was going to get caught whether Walt continued the business or not.
 
Mr. Blonde said:
oh, you knew that it was going to happen just the way it happened huh?

the fact is, walt got in an argument and shot mike in anger. second degree, not first degree.
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Not so simple when you consider that he'd swiped Mike's gun before hand. Was something he was at least considering...
 
Snuggler said:
That's just it. Walt will never be as powerful as he wants to be. He's gonna be chasing a fleeting feeling until he inevitably crosses the wrong (or right?) line.
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Just the transformation of him realizing he has to take everything into his own hands has been incredible.

Slowly but surely over these past seasons it's like every season was a lesson in him learning that he himself if the only one he can count on. And even crazier is that not wanting to back down he just keeps getting pushed harder and harder. This transformation has been amazing, and seeing him just finally fight back for the things in his life compared to how he has been all this show has just been really well done.
 
I like that you think Walt is gonna say something remorseful for what he did and he says..
"What was I thinking, I could just ask Lydia"...

Seriously, Walt is coooooold blooded.
 
Emerson said:
I don't buy that Mike would let Walt get the bag and bring it to him. Slightly contrived IMO. But the scene we got out of it was pretty great so I can ignore it.
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I buy that he'd do it to keep Jesse from being the one. Saul wasn't going to, and Jesse would insist if he refused to let Walt, instead of involving anyone else.
 
Lonestar said:
I figured that Walt would shoot him right off the bat, or as soon as he turned around. His acting and the walk back to the car, to me, implied he wasn't 100% gonna kill him (depended on how the conversation went).
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exactly. it wasn't a premeditated murder. it happened because mike teased walter for the last time at the wrong time.
 
BertramCooper said:
Flynn is so gonna die next week.

Probably in the middle of breakfast.
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Mr. Blonde said:
oh, you knew that it was going to happen just the way it happened huh?

the fact is, walt got in an argument and shot mike in anger. second degree, not first degree.
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Well I knew Walt was going to take the gun from the bag and use it against Mike. I knew that he wasn't going to just kill Mike on sight(his concern wasn't Mike but Mike's guys as had been made earlier in the conference call scene). I knew that we'd already been primed about the thank you this episode and the Walt-Mike tension all season so I knew it was going to occur in an airing of grievances.
 
iammeiam said:
I buy that he'd do it to keep Jesse from being the one. Saul wasn't going to, and Jesse would insist if he refused to let Walt, instead of involving anyone else.
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saul said the DEA are probably sitting on his car

wouldnt it look suspicious that walt and jesse were leaving his place
 
iammeiam said:
I buy that he'd do it to keep Jesse from being the one. Saul wasn't going to, and Jesse would insist if he refused to let Walt, instead of involving anyone else.
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I could buy that if Mike knew what Walt would do and therefore his accepting Walt's offer was a sacrifice of his own life to keep Jesse out of it. But the scenes weren't framed that way at all.
 
Wiggum2007 said:
Not so simple when you consider that he'd swiped Mike's gun before hand. Was something he was at least considering...
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Might have considered making sure Mike didn't have a gun (when he handed over the bag), to make sure Mike wouldn't shoot him out of spite. Course, Mike being Mike, still found a way to have a gun.
 
Also, it didn't really hit me in the show when it happened about Mike, but now that i've had some time from the episode, it kinda hurts ;_;
 
i think saul was being hyperbolic when he claimed his car would be hot. he was just saying he's not ready to get involved after the other lawyer just got pinched.
 
I think the Ricin is what Walt is going to be racing towards when he realizes it's all over and is craving the final bit of control he will ever be able to exercise in his own life, the act of taking it.
 
So with one final episode left I wonder if we'll even reach the flash forward? Unless the start of next season starts on it. Hmmm.
 
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