Bayonetta 2 - WiiU (Director: Yusuke Hashimoto, Pub: Nintendo, Supervision:Kamiya)

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For a game that sold all of five copies in the US, this thread is surprisingly long.

Don't get me wrong. I love Bayonetta but still.
 
Mechazawa said:
It's a way to show off more third party support, one of Nintendo's biggest weaknesses.

I don't think "whether or not it fits the platform" should be a signifying factor over how Nintendo attracts this support. They're certainly not in a position to be picky.
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Yeah, they have enough money stored now to start playing politics liberally. I bet its also part of a significant courtship of Platinum in general.
 
Grecco said:
This is a really strange pickup for Nintendo. A game without a history on Nintendo consoles and had not much success on the market. Awesome game, so glad its getting a sequel but it is a strange decicion by Nintendo.
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It's very encouraging. Indicates Nintendo's willingness to go out on a limb and fund beloved games and IP that will get gamers excited even though it is unlikely to make a profit. It means Ninty is willing to play the long game and lose a little bit of money now to ensure that they regain some of the PS360 crowd.

This is going to be happening alot more once some smaller, but beloved and talented studios are confronted with the costs of PS4720 development. Nintendo can step in and offer a sane alternative, and cover publishing themselves. A game like Bayonetta probably never gets greenlit in the first place for PS4 the way the economy is and given Japans relative lack of regard for bleeding edge graphics, Nintendo stands to gain alot of good games this way, it is an investment that they are counting on to pay off int he future, even if it doesn't make money now.
 
ArjanN said:
Just because something is the way it is and you have no choice but to accept it, doesn't mean you can't feel disappointed about it.
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It just seems insane to do so.

Shenmue 3 on the PS3 would have made me throw my "No higher than $299." console pricing out the window.

Time might give better perspective on this stuff.
 
NBtoaster said:
I don't see why Nintendo would do this when it wasn't a big moneymaker when it was multiplatform. Short of changing the style I don't see how a niche multiplatform> niche exclusive [to an unrelated company and platform] will even match what the first game did.

[I'm not port begging, I really dont like OTT wacky stuff like Bayonetta]
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Its a niche game already partially complete that they can market to a demographic that buys multiple games a year. It also rounds out their software offerings, its the same logic behind their support and eventual purchase of Monolith years ago I imagine.
 
Syphon Filter said:
welp it might go to others later on. Published doesn't mean its guaranteed to stay exclusive.
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It's published by Nintendo. I'm sure they've locked down the game airtight.

10k said:
2 games for 1? We'll give you Galaxy HD collection on your PS3 for The Last Guardian and Final Fantasy XIII and XIII-2? Deal? :p
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I'm getting the better end of the deal there, so sure :lol
 
shinra-bansho said:
The internet wasn't nearly as pervasive back then.

When Hiroshi Yamauchi is publicly salty about it, I highly doubt "Nintendo fans didn't fuss."
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I imagine Yamauchi is a guy who tends to get angry a lot. That's not a good way to measure how the larger fanbase felt.

Combichristoffersen said:
That's where the 'JRPG fans are sad, lonely people who play games alone in the dark' thing originated?
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Yeah, still one of my favorite quotes.

Heavy said:
It's a weird victim complex. There are far more posts saying how salty everyone is and how they must hate Nintendo than there are actual posts where that happened, far more.
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Yeah there is a bit of victim complex, that tends to happen a lot in Nintendo threads, I know from experience. At the same time this port begging stuff also happens a lot more in Nintendo threads. Lets just be real here.
 
Grecco said:
This is a really strange pickup for Nintendo. A game without a history on Nintendo consoles and had not much success on the market. Awesome game, so glad its getting a sequel but it is a strange decicion by Nintendo.
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It seems obvious that with this move Nintendo trying to reach out to hardcore gamers. And then this is the result...
 
Noi said:
I'm unwilling to buy a Wii U because the current lineup doesn't appeal to me, I'm not convinced I'll enjoy playing with the pad, I don't have $300 to spend and Nintendo's online track record doesn't leave me with much faith for the digital side. This isn't black and white, I can have plenty of reasons to not buy their new system without one being that I hate Nintendo or some crap. My reason for not owning a 360 isn't because I hate Microsoft.
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You are not the kind of people I was targeting with that post. You make valid points and it's totally understandable.
 
TGO said:
Despite liking the game and owning a Sony system I'm sure Bayonetta is actually more a 360 game
So kinda confused at the dig at PlayStation owners or is this a ol'skool Nintendo Vs Sony thing?
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It's just seeing the history of Sony games going multi-platform (not exclusive, mind you, multi) causing such meltdowns here.

I'm trying to dig up the Mass Effect or BioShock multi-platform threads to see if it goes both ways, but my Google Fu is not good.
 
Bayonetta wasn't on my radar at all but after seeing this much passion for the game, I'm definitely making it one of the first Wii U titles I purchase.
 
Daschysta said:
It's very encouraging. Indicates Nintendo's willingness to go out on a limb and fund beloved games and IP that will get gamers excited even though it is unlikely to make a profit. It means Ninty is willing to play the long game and lose a little bit of money now to ensure that they regain some of the PS360 crowd.

This is going to be happening alot more once some smaller, but beloved and talented studios are confronted with the costs of PS4720 development. Nintendo can step in and offer a sane alternative, and cover publishing themselves. A game like Bayonetta probably never gets greenlit in the first place for PS4 the way the economy is and given Japans relative lack of regard for bleeding edge graphics, Nintendo stands to gain alot of good games this way, it is an investment that they are counting on to pay off int he future, even if it doesn't make money now.
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This is a great post.
 
10k said:
2 games for 1? We'll give you Galaxy HD collection on your PS3 for The Last Guardian and Final Fantasy XIII and XIII-2? Deal? :p
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Ewww. If they want to unload FFXIII and XIII-2 then we should at least get Demon's Souls as well as compensation.

Also, I hope Bayo2 has a sweet preorder bonus here like the first. I'd love another gun :D
 
abadguy said:
I have a job, i also have bills. Rent electric, cable etc. I still like to game but i have to worry about other things as well. This is why its pretty easy to understand that not everyone has the disposable income to drop 300 bucks on every console that has a game they want to play. Not everyone has their parents to pay for all of their shit.
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Oh, great, the victim card.

You have six months to save up. Six. Months. Maybe it's time to cut the cable, cut your monthly gaming expenses, cut any other luxury expenses if you can't spare $300 in the span of six months.
 
I wonder what what business idea was to have the game published on a new console that the overall selling point of said device is that it is a Nintendo platform / nostalgia factor. Bayonetta doesn't have the love affection like other Nintendo franchises. It seems the attention comes from a vocal group, does that group relate to Nintendo platforms? Maybe?

Outside of the idea of Nintendo funding this game when was the last second party title funded by Nintendo that did particularly well?

If Bayonetta didn't do well on consoles with larger install base what is the expectations on a console that right now has no install base.
 
The Technomancer said:
Yeah, they have enough money stored now to start playing politics liberally. I bet its also part of a significant courtship of Platinum in general.
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Yeah, it would not surprise me if Nintendo would have Platinum as as exclusive company or outright acquire it in the future so that they can have stability. I mean, they have Monlithsoft as their RPG company and they have been SOLID GOLD, now only if Nintendo can beef up the company so that they can create RPG's on a more regular basis.

Hearing Sega's financial problems, Nintendo should just buy Sega while they are at it so they can get franchise like Valkyria and Sonic that would be home on a Nintendo Console.
 
apana said:
I imagine Yamauchi is a guy who tends to get angry a lot. That's not a good way to measure how the larger fanbase felt.

Yeah, still one of my favorite quotes.
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The general Nintendo fanbase got quite salty too, especially after that 'FF VI in 3D CGI' demo video made everyone believe FF VII would surely be a N64 exclusive.

And it is indeed a hilarious quote.
 
Firemind said:
Oh, great, the victim card.

You have six months to save up. Six. Months. Maybe it's time to cut the cable, cut your monthly gaming expenses, cut any other luxury expenses if you can't spare $300 in the span of six months.
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Also it's not like you have to pay that $300 for every new game you want. Once you have the Wii-U for Bayo2 you can then also get other games for it. Who knows? Maybe there will be a multiplatform game you could get on it that would have some cool exclusive features? Or maybe there will be more exclusives you'll be interested in in the future?

And hey, if you don't want to drop $300 on a new console for just one game why not wait a while until it gets a bit cheaper or there are more games announced for it you are interested in?
 
Des0lar said:
Is this really a "wall of shame" though?

I mean, there is post with simply a frown and it's on the wall?

I mean no disrespect to your work mama, but everyone needs to calm down. I completely understand why some people are disappointed that Bayonetta 2 is a WiiU exclusive. They bought the game on PS3 or Xbox and probably a lot of them only have one console (and a handheld / PC / whatevs) and also I assume that many of these people did not have any intentions of buying a WiiU. So seeing their beloved franchise appear anew sure is great, but if you want to play it, you are basically forced to buy a system you never had any intention to buy. The outrage would be here as well if bayonetta 2 was a PS3 / 360 exclusive, because the some of the fanbase of this game, played it on a different console.
Of course many here don't care because they were getting a WiiU regardless, so for them it's a big win and they are happy.

But surely not everyone who is disappointed with this news should be publicly shamed and titled as anti-Nintendo.

Disclaimer: I have neither played Bayonetta nor have any intention to buy the WiiU in the next couple of years.

Edit: Some people are absolutely overreacting though. Death threats? how low can you go?
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Pretty much, yeah. The big defense is "It wouldn't exist otherwise" like that somehow invalidates any other feeling other unwavering joy. Lumping people making death threats in with people being disappointed at a 3rd party game going exclusive is the biggest fucking embarrassment I've seen on gaf, and should be consider a low point for everyone. But meh, the best way to console-war it up is to accuse everyone else of doing it.
 
Man. So much salt in this thread when this should be a good thing. Bayonetta 2 is actually happening. Yes, it's only on Wii U. So? Systems have exclusive titles, always have, and always will. Would you rather just not have Bayonetta 2 exist at all? Ugh.
 
Reading the first couple of pages with everyone saying "great move Nintendo" has me perplexed. This will matter even less for the Wii U than FF13 did for the 360.
 
BlazinAm said:
I wonder what what business idea was to have the game published on a new console that the overall selling point of said device is that it is a Nintendo platform / nostalgia factor. Bayonetta doesn't have the love affection like other Nintendo franchises. It seems the attention comes from a vocal group, does that group relate to Nintendo platforms? Maybe?

Outside of the idea of Nintendo funding this game when was the last second party title funded by Nintendo that did particularly well?

If Bayonetta didn't do well on consoles with larger install base what is the expectations on a console that right now has no install base.
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It's not all about sales, it's about giving gamers what they want, even the niche gamers who will only get Nintendo 500k copies of a game.
 
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