Romney used it. Why not Obama?
Romney mentions Solyndra, bank bail outs, and unemployment.
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Romney used it. Why not Obama?
Romney mentions Solyndra, bank bail outs, and unemployment.
Ken Masters
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Barely, but got crushed on every other topic, he kept his mouth shut on everything that hurt Romney yet Romney did the exact opposite
This is like Kerry getting destroyed by bush in the debates
Vicetrailia
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Apparently MSNBC is not the FOX NEWS of the left. lol dang.
ThatCrazyGuy
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Jesus, I want to know mitts damn healthcare plan in detail!
U win by being smooth wih he vague? Come on!
U win by being smooth wih he vague? Come on!
It was already almost entirely a back and forth between "you have no plans" and "shut up yes I do" without him harping.
You referring to his body? The guy's losing weight like mad crazy. He's literally turning into a talking head.
I haven't really participated within PoliGAF since the last election, and I've forgotten how alarmist people can get. I can't imagine living with such fragile expectations towards everything.
Romney did absolutely nothing to reverse 99% of the criticisms lobbied at him on a daily basis, and until he does, Obama is 95% guaranteed to win this election. And yes, those percentages are as BS as Romney's comments tonight.
Romney did absolutely nothing to reverse 99% of the criticisms lobbied at him on a daily basis, and until he does, Obama is 95% guaranteed to win this election. And yes, those percentages are as BS as Romney's comments tonight.
Kerry destroyed Bush on both style and substance.
I think Romney "won" this debate, but his pushy, smarmy style will be offputting to many undecided voters.
I don't want to scare anyone but sometimes I have prophetic dreams and a couple days ago I dreamt Romney won the Presidency. Also Biden lost his debate by a big margin in my dream.
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TheKaeptain
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Incendiary
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Probably waiting until after the vice presidential debate, who knows how the Ryan vs. Biden debate is going to turn out. Use the strong points later in case of a bad screw up by Biden.
Also, being soft in the first debate lets him and his staff see how Romney's going to talk and what his plan of attack is. Now he's seen how Romney will approach the debates and knows how to strike back.
BrokenEchelon
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Right now?
Last year Wolf Blitzer talked to himself about whether a car was moving South or South-West for three minutes on live television.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Obama was like this in 2008, too. He's always been really relaxed and almost stoned in these debates. He's more concerned about not looking like an angry black guy than anything else.
Eventually both Clinton and McCain exploded on themselves in some form of rage or looking confused.
Eventually both Clinton and McCain exploded on themselves in some form of rage or looking confused.
Shouta
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True.
Neodiablo22
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We are all going to die. The Mayan calendar were right!!!
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This was the same thing in 2008. Obama is professorial and can't be acting like the angry black man on television. That said, I do anticipate him being more on the attack during the next debate. The content from Obama was there, just needs to nail the delivery and presentation. That said, let's wait until the polls from this debate start rolling in.
NullPointer
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Yep.
Makes me wish that these debates weren't so damned constrained into their little 90 minute thunderdomes. Sit both of these guys down on some comfy chairs, give them some water, and at least twice the time to has these things out. Start the ball rolling with a topic and let them go at it only using the moderator to keep people from diverging wildly off topic, not as keeper of the clock.
ViperVisor
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Keys to winning a debate = lie quickly.
Ghost_Protocol
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Do you guys think Obama secretly doesn't want to be President anymore? A little?
Doc Holliday
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Lol you guys are nuts
Ken Masters
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For people thinking these debates don't matter, ask jimmy carter how he was doing in the polls against Reagan before they debated
Fuck these computers
I haven't even seen this and I'm laughing my ass off just imagining it happening.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Oh lord.
MasterShotgun
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I know I'm irritated, but I acknowledge that this alone won't change the election. Obama just needs to go back, rethink his debate strategy, and hit Romney where it hurts in the next two debates.
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Here's my last comment, Neither Mitten's or Obama has said how they will create jobs when there is no demand in the market place to support new companies new jobs. Where are you going to create demand.
Romney is unlikable and you all know it because you follow politics. There are millions of people who got their first full dose of Romney tonight, and it was a Heisenberg level hit of full-on smarmy bullshit and rudeness.
Obama went on yet another of his explain-a-thons and looked like the adult in the room again. This is what he does. He's the same guy no matter whatever else is going on, and it drives his opponents (and supporters!) nuts.
Uninformed America didn't see what GAF saw. Uninformed America just got sold a '93 Grand Am and was told it was really a Lexus. In a few hours they're going to realize what they drove home and get pissed about it.
Obama went on yet another of his explain-a-thons and looked like the adult in the room again. This is what he does. He's the same guy no matter whatever else is going on, and it drives his opponents (and supporters!) nuts.
Uninformed America didn't see what GAF saw. Uninformed America just got sold a '93 Grand Am and was told it was really a Lexus. In a few hours they're going to realize what they drove home and get pissed about it.
TTOOLL
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I agree with you, I just think that Obama was saving his ammo and he will definitely use it all in the next two debates. It'll be bad if he stays in this position in the future, though.
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Obama only mentioned that Romney had given no plans somewhere in the second half of the debate, and he was a bit long winded about it. Something like a concise, "once again, you have not given any specifics," and then proceeding with his respinse would be nice.
Devolution
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Obama doesn't even need to recover, he just has to count on Romney being himself up until the election.
Probably not, but has nothing to do with tonight.
Romney's content is in the same universe where you can find the genuine Wall Street regulation that Obama claims he's now put in place.
This entire post is flawless.
reddmyst
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For most of the debate, it looked like Romney was about to cry although he did sound confident (I guess, fake it till you make it).
Obama lost this debate as much as I hate to admit. He shouldn't have talked too much about Obamacare and should've made hits to Romney (by the 47%, Bain, etc.)
Obama lost this debate as much as I hate to admit. He shouldn't have talked too much about Obamacare and should've made hits to Romney (by the 47%, Bain, etc.)
His performance was his content. That's what he needed to succeed with.
BuggyDClown
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That used car salesman seems awesome until you learn everything he said was a lie. As the fact checking rolls in the conversation is going to be about lies, not aggression and salesmanship. Watch the trend people.
Big Daddy Cool calls it as it is.
slightconfuse
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Daily Show on now. cant wait for tomorrows show though
PhoenixDark
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The only thing Obama did well was argue Medicare; he clearly won that segment. Outside of that he looked completely unfocused, rambled, and just seemed out of it. There were multiple stories about the campaign trying to shorten his answers during prep debates, and it's clear Obama did not listen.
Perhaps the strategy was to simply play prevent defense and not make noise. Romney exposed himself to multiple attacks on the 47% video, to asking him to name some deductions he wants to get rid of, etc etc and Obama didn't throw a punch.
Perhaps the strategy was to simply play prevent defense and not make noise. Romney exposed himself to multiple attacks on the 47% video, to asking him to name some deductions he wants to get rid of, etc etc and Obama didn't throw a punch.
Lol, this. CNN is always ridiculous. In general, and not just in regard to tonight, this country needs to learn that being "fair and balanced" means being objective, and that it doesn't mean giving each side equal time even when one of the side's arguments are bullshit.
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