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[la flama blanca]

Romney actually impressed me this round. I was on the fence with Obama with his healthcare and death panels, but now I'm pretty sure that Romney has the confidence to lead this country against threats like Iran and Egypt. Plus I heard that Obama gave money to the black panthers.

 

[oneils]

I love Poligaf nights. Dems do well, holy fuck Jesus Christ has risen again. Dems do poorly, its just short of a mass migration to China. Mix in the stupidly smug Europeans who feel the need to lecture everyone, then you have got some real entertainment.

I haven't read every post, but I'm not sure I've seen the bolded yet

 

[Snowden's Secret]

I would guess not good because of shit working conditions. I know there's more around than just my local area, but that's all I was basing my anecdote on.

Corporate thought they'd save a ton of money, but we actually lost a shit ton because employ retention cut in half, and SURPRISE! the cost of hiring and training a new employee is a lot higher than simply retaining a current employee and paying him or her a little more.

 

[HylianTom]

I love Poligaf nights. Dems do well, holy fuck Jesus Christ has risen again. Dems do poorly, its just short of a mass migration to China. Mix in the stupidly smug Europeans who feel the need to lecture everyone, then you have got some real entertainment.

The theatrics are really fun here. It's why I'd take Election Night here at GAF instead of going out to a bar to watch returns. Regardless of the results, we get to see and make magic here.

 

[Souldriver]

I love Poligaf nights. Dems do well, holy fuck Jesus Christ has risen again. Dems do poorly, its just short of a mass migration to China. Mix in the stupidly smug Europeans who feel the need to lecture everyone, then you have got some real entertainment.

Don't forget the douche who thinks he has Poligaf all figured out!

 

[SoulPlaya]

Love American population who doesn't care about facts but whoever screams the loudest

If the American population loved the facts, then neither one of these guys would be running for President, lol.

 

[TheNatural]

Love American population who doesn't care about facts but whoever screams the loudest

You say this like other places have a better grasp on priorities. At least millions of people are watching a debate, not a fucking Royal wedding with a make believe Prince/Princess and Queen.

Yeah come at me Europe.

 

[ggnoobIGN]

Don't forget the douche who thinks he has Poligaf all figured out!

Touche

 

[Wafflecakes]

I haven't read every post, but I'm not sure I've seen the bolded yet

I have.

You kind of need to know who is who and where they live though.

 

[btrboyev]

Romney actually impressed me this round. I was on the fence with Obama with his healthcare and death panels, but now I'm pretty sure that Romney has the confidence to lead this country against threats like Iran and Egypt. Plus I heard that Obama gave money to the black panthers.

What? There was zero discussion of foreign policy in this debate, so why does Mitt look better with Iran or Egypt? And your black panthers comment is just even more wtf

 

[oneils]

Don't forget the douche who thinks he has Poligaf all figured out!

lol, was this just stealth edited?

edit: no it wasn't. i'm going blind. need sleeps.

 

[Ken Masters]

You say this like other places have a better grasp on priorities. At least millions of people are watching a debate, not a fucking Royal wedding with a make believe Prince/Princess and Queen.

Yeah come at me Europe.

Honey boo boo

 

[hachi]

Obama is great at speeches but when talking off the cuff he's not good

Stuttering, awkward pauses, weak voiced

What?

I typically find his overly "passionate" speeches to be corny and unconvincing. But he has an excellent mind for details of extremely complex policy questions (see: his health-care summit interactions, displaying absolute mastery of the Affordable Care Act) and is stronger than his opponents when it comes to nuanced arguments where no script is available.

Your criticism sounds like a speech class instructor from a third-rate marketing or MBA program, where everything comes down to corny rules of body language and presence.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Sarcasm

 

[apana]

I love Poligaf nights. Dems do well, holy fuck Jesus Christ has risen again. Dems do poorly, its just short of a mass migration to China. Mix in the stupidly smug Europeans who feel the need to lecture everyone, then you have got some real entertainment.

I feel what you are saying. In the age we live in everything gets hyped to the nth degree, it honestly is turning into circus. Yet still knowing all this I can't get over just how lame Obama was. He just doesn't look like he wants it as bad as his surrogates do. Even Bill Clinton seems to be more excited for an Obama presidency than Obama is.

 

[polyh3dron]

Romney: " I'll make good stuff gooder!"

Obama: "Uh, are you literally just throwing out every plan that you've run your campaign on thus far?"

Romney: "...gooder!"

This. Obama's attitude can be chalked up to "my mind is full of fuck".

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Heh gaf will go nuts on election night. Cant wait.

 

[Steelrain]

What? There was zero discussion of foreign policy in this debate, so why does Mitt look better with Iran or Egypt? And your black panthers comment is just even more wtf

Probably because it was an obvious joke.

 

[la flama blanca]

What? There was zero discussion of foreign policy in this debate, so why does Mitt look better with Iran or Egypt? And your black panthers comment is just even more wtf

Either way, I just read an article off a Facebook link that said Obama is looking to quadruple our nations deficit with marine life spending.

 

[fallagin]

Well I thought Obama won, but that is probably because I didn't take Romney's lies at face value. There's plenty of imbeciles out in the general electorate.

 

[The Technomancer]

In terms of content Obama wins hands down. But Romney was just so smooth consistently, while Obama only had a few really smooth moments. Romney is peddling bullshit but he's a good salesman.

 

[stormer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykmxJbghEBM

 

[Represent.]

Romney won the debate, Obama will still win election.

 

[C4Lukins]

They didn't really get to very many domestic topics really. And the moderator.....don't get me started.

I don't think this will make Romney more palatable but hopefully the 2nd debate will be a little more structured.

What does the 2nd and 3rd debate cover?

This really benefited Romney, because it was mostly all about the economy. Romney was not forced to talk about religion, gay rights, or the abortion topic which would have forced him into his flip flopping role. He did not have to pander to the Christian right while disenchanting moderates or vice versa. Nothing on immigration either. I know one of the other debates focuses on foreign policy which may go a little into immigration. What is the topic of the other debate?

 

[God...frey Jones]

I was so invested in the last election, but it's too exhausting this time around. Haven't even touched the PoliGAF threads or even read much about it all all, and I was shocked to learn the election is only a month away. I love Obama but he can't get anything done considering the roadblocks put up by the American political system... I hope he wins, but goddamn am I cynical about that place.

 

[apana]

Romney: " I'll make good stuff gooder!"

Obama: "Uh, are you literally just throwing out every plan that you've run your campaign on thus far?"

Romney: "...gooder!"

Obama was clearly off his game before Mitt Romney said a single thing.

 

[thecouncil]

I really am confused as to why Obama didn't call Romney out on the lies we all know he's lying about though.

What was that?

I think he's giving the American public too much credit on knowing Romney is all over the place and making stuff up at this point. He really can't do that.

 

[Snowden's Secret]

My favorite bit of post-debate analysis, courtesy ABC:

"President Obama kept saying that Governor Romney would cut taxes by five trillion dollars. This is true--Romney's plan would cost five trillion in revenue, but he has promised to make up the same amount by closing loopholes and have a net effect of zero. So we rate Obama as 'mostly false' on this one."

Holy shit ABC, really? And Stephenopolous didn't even bitch slap him for that either.

 

[cnizzle06]

In terms of content Obama wins hands down. But Romney was just so smooth consistently, while Obama only had a few really smooth moments. Romney is peddling bullshit but he's a good salesman.[/QUOTE]

Great way to put it.

 

[Sohter.Nura]

God damnit, I didn't watch it, but the entire consensus is that Romney was the clear winner.

I don't care for Obama so much, but a republican President again would just make me flee this country.

Cmon Obama -_-'

 

[Averon]

I think we all agree that, despite who you thought won, that Jim Lehrer did a terrible job controlling the debate. Hopefully this is his last one.

 

[harSon]

This is reminding me of 2008. Obama had it locked down for weeks, but Dems just love hangwringing and concern trolling.

Obama had it locked since being nominated as the democratic nominee in 2008. People just overreact to everything, and overstate the importance of polls.

Unless that little girl from Here Comes Honey Boo Boo comes up missing, and turns up buried under the armoire in Obama's study, then Obama is going to be reelected.

 

[teh_pwn]

I really am confused as to why Obama didn't call Romney out on the lies we all know he's lying about though.

What was that?

He did with taxes at least 3 times, but I guess in a polite way instead of "you're a liar, sir!"

 

[Ken Masters]

I think we all agree that, despite who you thought won, that Jim Lehrer did a terrible job controlling the debate. Hopefully this is his last one.

He was pathetic, completely bullied by Romney and they talked about so few topics

 

[Steelrain]

So doesn't Ryan have to somehow go with this new change in policy against Biden?

The ads write themselves.

 

[Oblivion]

So I missed actually watching the debates, but I sorta kinda followed a few of the live blogs. Is it correct to assume that everone agreed Romney didn't actually bother challenging most of Obama's points on substance, but since he gave off the impression that he knew what he was talking about, he therefore was the winner?

Correct?

 

[ViperVisor]

One last thing. If you poll GAF on who won the debate....well it looks like we know who would win that poll. But if you poll GAF on who they're voting for....well it looks like we know who would win that poll.

Don't mean it to sound like spin (GAF leans left etc.) but it just came to my mind. Don't know if it's an actual point or not.

 

[Nostalgic Nightmare]

Not the debate i was hoping for. Obama really should have asked for specifics from Mittens and the moderation was weak. I feel like obama really weighs the average persons life struggles on his mind while romney believes business will provide all the answers. So if obama wins we get another term of tea party bullshit and immediate vows to further separate the country or we get a guy that was built in a lab who has no idea what a day in the life of joe schmoe is like and will begin to gut things like its all a giant corporate A & M.

 

[djplaeskool]

So I missed actually watching the debates, but I sorta kinda followed a few of the live blogs. Is it correct to assume that everone agreed Romney didn't actually bother challenging most of Obama's points on substance, but since he gave off the impression that he knew what he was talking about, he therefore was the winner?

Correct?

Basically.

 

[fallagin]

So I missed actually watching the debates, but I sorta kinda followed a few of the live blogs. Is it correct to assume that everone agreed Romney didn't actually bother challenging most of Obama's points on substance, but since he gave off the impression that he knew what he was talking about, he therefore was the winner?

Correct?

That's how it seems.

 

[teh_pwn]

So I missed actually watching the debates, but I sorta kinda followed a few of the live blogs. Is it correct to assume that everone agreed Romney didn't actually bother challenging most of Obama's points on substance, but since he gave off the impression that he knew what he was talking about, he therefore was the winner?

Correct?

Yes.

For what it's worth, Romney consistently peddled his bullshit in contrast with the GOP debates "I didn't see any ads, but the one I saw said" kind of bullshit.

 

[B-Dubs]

My favorite bit of post-debate analysis, courtesy ABC:

"President Obama kept saying that Governor Romney would cut taxes by five trillion dollars. This is true--Romney's plan would cost five trillion in revenue, but he has promised to make up the same amount by closing loopholes and have a net effect of zero. So we rate Obama as 'mostly false' on this one."

Holy shit ABC, really? And Stephenopolous didn't even bitch slap him for that either.

ABC has been ABSOLUTE SHIT this election. NBC has been #1 and CBS #2 as far as the three main networks go. ABC will go out of their way to give Romney the benefit of the doubt even when he doesn't deserve it.

 

[Zabka]

If you wanna know why Obama didn't attack, look at these schmuck undecided voters when Obama called Romney out on his tax plan.

Also, I'd just like to add: Erin Burnett.

 

[Balphon]

My favorite bit of post-debate analysis, courtesy ABC:

"President Obama kept saying that Governor Romney would cut taxes by five trillion dollars. This is true--Romney's plan would cost five trillion in revenue, but he has promised to make up the same amount by closing loopholes and have a net effect of zero. So we rate Obama as 'mostly false' on this one."

Holy shit ABC, really? And Stephenopolous didn't even bitch slap him for that either.

Maybe ABC has just figured out what Romney knew all along: that wishes, in fact, are horses.

 

[Evlar]

So I missed actually watching the debates, but I sorta kinda followed a few of the live blogs. Is it correct to assume that everone agreed Romney didn't actually bother challenging most of Obama's points on substance, but since he gave off the impression that he knew what he was talking about, he therefore was the winner?

Correct?

Romney flatly denied the known specifics of his budget plan and refused to provide new ones. That's how it went.

 

[AkuMifune]

I think the ragin cajun summed it up the best when he said Obama expected to be able to have a conversation when Romney came out like a chainsaw. You can't have a conversation with a chainsaw.

But that's why Romney 'won'.

Still, he seemed like a smarmy overeager bullshitter to me. Not presidential but childish. I'm Republican and will probably vote Democrat for the first time in 4 elections.

Not that it matters in Texas.

 

[Amir0x]

CNN Focus Group

8 said they're changing to Obama, 8 said they're changing to Romney. The rest thought both candidates did not give enough detail

lol

 

[eBay Huckster]

CNN Focus Group

8 said they're changing to Obama, 8 said they're changing to Romney

lol

game chaaaaange

 

[Evlar]

CNN Focus Group

8 said they're changing to Obama, 8 said they're changing to Romney. The rest thought both candidates did not give enough detail

lol

What was the male/female split?

 

[The Technomancer]

God damnit, I didn't watch it, but the entire consensus is that Romney was the clear winner.

I don't care for Obama so much, but a republican President again would just make me flee this country.

Cmon Obama -_-'

Romney was a winner in presentation, but everything he said was completely void of substance. It was one of the most shallow things I've ever seen. The people who are condensing his argument to "I'll take your (Obama's) stuff, remove the bad stuff, and make the good stuff better" are not exaggerating