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mightynine said:
Which is what they exist for. Businesses don't exist to hire people, they exist to make money (unless they're a non-profit, obviously).

Whomever created the job-creator spin word should get a steak and BJ every night for the rest of their life - it's that damn good of a spin.
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Yep, exactly. And this is kind of why I think it's funny that they think tax cuts on those businesses will "create jobs" when they are easily more sufficient paying less people while outputting in the same capacity and just keeping that money because they're straight up just getting more of it.
 
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GillianSeed79 said:
Fuck. It's it's seeping into GAF too. It's a teleprompter talking point. Fuck. Thank God the last debate is on foreign policy, but I'm going to be freaking out for the next five weeks. Fuck Chuck "Man God" Todd is even saying Bams lost tonight.

I'm already preparing for a possible Romney presidency or at least an election night that is going to come down to Ohio or Florida. I'm having 2004 flashbacks. Oh God, Oh God.
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Jesus fuck, calm down.
 
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ADs down here in Florida are really something else. I just saw some Jewish guy speaking about needing to attack Iran and make America strong. wtf

Ken Masters said:
Obama is great at speeches but when talking off the cuff he's not good

Stuttering, awkward pauses, weak voiced
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Its just exhaustion from dealing with idiocy. He probably didnt even know where to begin to respond to the bullshit mitt was spouting. Seemed like he just wanted to smile and say 'fuckit' and leave.
 
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Romney: " I'll make good stuff gooder!"

Obama: "Uh, are you literally just throwing out every plan that you've run your campaign on thus far?"

Romney: "...gooder!"
 
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They didn't really get to very many domestic topics really. And the moderator.....don't get me started.

I don't think this will make Romney more palatable but hopefully the 2nd debate will be a little more structured.

What does the 2nd and 3rd debate cover?
 
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GillianSeed79 said:
Fuck. It's it's seeping into GAF too. It's a teleprompter talking point. Fuck. Thank God the last debate is on foreign policy, but I'm going to be freaking out for the next five weeks. Fuck Chuck "Man God" Todd is even saying Bams lost tonight.

I'm already preparing for a possible Romney presidency or at least an election night that is going to come down to Ohio or Florida. I'm having 2004 flashbacks. Oh God, Oh God.
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Obama did lose, but the electoral path of Romney is still daunting. Also there's two more debates, and Obama won't make the same mistake of acting passive.
 
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Watched the debate and commentary afterwards. Think they both got in their shots with Obama winning. I don't know how Romney can not explain one detail of anything and come out the winner.

I'll add what I wrote on Facebook.

"Romney stood by his belief tonight that he would not cut 10% of spending if it meant he had to raise revenue by 1% all the while lecturing Obama on the deficit. We've tried low tax rates for these supposed job creators for over 10 years now and it has not worked. Thank god for sequestration and the end of the tax cuts for the rich at the end of the year. Let's not let the Republicans take control of Congress or the White House again on November 6th so they can't implement them again. Obama is right. We can and have reduced the deficit with a tax code that asks for a bit more from those who can afford it and at the same time creating millions of jobs as seen under President Clinton. The names have changed but this is essentially Bush vs. Clinton."
 
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Because Mitt Romney could do nothing but respond with "Nuh uh, that's not my plan, because I say it's not and uh... magic might happen."

Obama won that debate in my mind, unless you're the type that frequently buys snake oil.
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I agree. This debate basically was Romney's final play. He made the choice to ditch his platform and pretend his stances are not his stances. He is on tape at the debate saying this. Sure it looks good if you know nothing about the platforms, but all the Obama campaign has to do is create attack ads showing clips of Romney contradicting himself and he loses all credibility.
 
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neemmss said:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...at_obama_after_debate_romney_was_winning.html

I love how Chris Matthews's called Obama out on NOT retaliating and throwing out the facts when he should have. BUT there is one thing he forgot...Obama doesn't know what he is doing. He is a figure head. He is TOLD what to say and what to do and he was caught off guard. His speeches and lines are written for him and Romney calling him out like he did tonight just showed it.

smh Obama. You were supposed to be better than Romney. Ron Paul > Obama > Romney.
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Yeah. A black guy couldn't actually be in charge of the country.
 
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neemmss said:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...at_obama_after_debate_romney_was_winning.html

I love how Chris Matthews's called Obama out on NOT retaliating and throwing out the facts when he should have. BUT there is one thing he forgot...Obama doesn't know what he is doing. He is a figure head. He is TOLD what to say and what to do and he was caught off guard. His speeches and lines are written for him and Romney calling him out like he did tonight just showed it.

smh Obama. You were supposed to be better than Romney. Ron Paul > Obama > Romney.
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I got all the way to the last sentence and then I understood.
 
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Ken Masters said:
Obama is great at speeches but when talking off the cuff he's not good

Stuttering, awkward pauses, weak voiced
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Meh, I don't mind the way he speaks off the cuff. He sounds like a guy deep in thought who really wants to be sure of his phrasing, and I admire that.
 
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Mitt's going to regret lumping Tesla in with Solyndra. Musk just stated today that the company will be cash flow positive in one month. The race will get closer, but as time passes Romney's statements will begin to unravel.
 
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GillianSeed79 said:
Fuck. It's it's seeping into GAF too. It's a teleprompter talking point. Fuck. Thank God the last debate is on foreign policy, but I'm going to be freaking out for the next five weeks. Fuck Chuck "Man God" Todd is even saying Bams lost tonight.

I'm already preparing for a possible Romney presidency or at least an election night that is going to come down to Ohio or Florida. I'm having 2004 flashbacks. Oh God, Oh God.
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President Romney...seeing that smug satisfied look of his.....knowing he flip flopped his way to the presidency and duped an entire nation. I want to pretend that something like this is impossible but I know it isn't.
 
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Snowden's Secret said:
I worked in management at a Six Flags park in 2009 after the economy went to shit. That spring, when it was time to hire our seasonals, corporate handed us marching orders saying that we could pay people less than we had before, and work them harder, because they would simply feel lucky to even have a job in that sort of economy.

I'll give you three guesses how that worked out.
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I would guess not good because of shit working conditions. I know there's more around than just my local area, but that's all I was basing my anecdote on.
 
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Romney won?

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I love Poligaf nights. Dems do well, holy fuck Jesus Christ has risen again. Dems do poorly, its just short of a mass migration to Canada. Mix in the stupidly smug Europeans who feel the need to lecture everyone, then you have got some real entertainment.
 
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ggnoobIGN said:
I love Poligaf nights. Dems do well, holy fuck Jesus Christ has risen again. Dems do poorly, its just short of a mass migration to China. Mix in the stupidly smug Europeans who feel the need to lecture everyone, then you have got some real entertainment.
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Man, you guys just love fantasizing about the left leaving the country.
 
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teh_pwn said:
I agree. This debate basically was Romney's final play. He made the choice to ditch his platform and pretend his stances are not his stances. He is on tape at the debate saying this. Sure it looks good if you know nothing about the platforms, but all the Obama campaign has to do is create attack ads showing clips of Romney contradicting himself and he loses all credibility.
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I'm really curious if the Romney campaign even considered this. The ads won't be pretty and I still don't think Romney really defined himself.
 
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