WascallyWabbit
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I thought the new Nova isn't Richard rider?
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I thought the new Nova isn't Richard rider?
Is that Darth Maul?
Anticitizen One
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Isn't there also that pony alien that has sex with lord blackbolt? At least I think that's what is going on I didn't really understand much of hickman's fantastic four run
BuddyJoeHooker
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Vermillion
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He meant Quill and Thanos.
Setre
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It is, from the comic Star Wars Visionaries.
The Take Out Bandit
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Why come Anakin can get life-like replacements but Maul has to have Grievous-legs?
Could someone please make me a GIF of this so I don't have to post the video every time?
The Sith used up their cyborg budget on Vader.
Setre
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Been a while since I read Visionaries but I don't think they give an explanation. Doesn't matter anyway, as far as the canon goes in the Star Wars comic timeline Visionaries isn't part of it. Just like the Tales* series, they're basically "What Ifs".
*Not to be confused with Tales of the Jedi, which is canon.
bean breath
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Finally read Watchmen after all these years, it was great. My favorite character was the kid who sat on the sidewalk and read a comic while smoking a cig, not giving a fuck.
Finished Tale of Sand too and eh... It looks amazing but I didn't like it. It costs $30 and you can get through it in like 15-20 minutes so, thank you public library.
Finished Tale of Sand too and eh... It looks amazing but I didn't like it. It costs $30 and you can get through it in like 15-20 minutes so, thank you public library.
Real reason is because the Clone Wars Cartoon used it instead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD1KdIabzJU&feature=related
Setre
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Actually Visionaries came out before the Clone Wars cartoon, so the cartoon stole it from the comic
Of course I could be misinterpreting what you're saying, if so ignore me.
Actually Visionaries came out before the Clone Wars cartoon, so the cartoon stole it from the comic
Of course I could be misinterpreting what you're saying, if so ignore me.
No I mean Visionaries was always non-canon. The same way they make anything non-canon if it could be potentially used, i.e. the fates of Han and Leia and Luke.
Setre
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Oh okay. Lucas has said before all the Expanded Universe stuff takes place in a different reality than the movies and cartoon. Which kind of pisses me off because the Clone Wars comics were pretty fucking good. I haven't seen the cartoon so I can't comment on it's quality but damn were those comics good.
TDLink
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Yeah but these characters coming back aren't by DnA's writing, it isn't like they chose for this to happen. Also Nova, Thanos, and Star Lord weren't killed, just trapped (seemingly forever). At the time I was sure there would be some comic book logic to get them out eventually. As long as they explain it reasonably than I am fine with it. I am worried though that they won't explain it at all, or that somehow Thanos and Star-Lord are out but Richard Rider isn't.
I'm also worried that this Iron Man in the GotG bullshit is indicative of the direction they are going to take the film now, instead of using the characters from the DnA run...which would greatly disappoint me.
I don't remember any girl horses (though you are probably right). I do know Kal Blackbane though.
Future Foundation has been such a good book.
sazabirules
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Legacy is good. I've read all of it but the last volume. It takes place 125 years after ROTJ.
I don't remember any girl horses (though you are probably right). I do know Kal Blackbane though.
Future Foundation has been such a good book.
That was a great chapter. I remember reading this was a plan for Pete and Johnny before Hickman killed him for a bit. Still, a fun chapter. FF is a fantastic book.
Comic book deaths aren't permanent, but that's usually because another writer down the line will undo whatever a previous writer did. My problem was that DnA would kill off a character and then, themselves and not long after, devote story to bringing them back. In that case, why kill them off at all? What's the point?
BenjaminBirdie
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NYCC was pretty okay. The transportaled Artists Alley is now like a mini-Heroes Con which was lovely. Got to meet Gustavo Duarte, which was life altering. Watching the dude draw was just...man.
Saw some Blacksad originals which were also humbling and tear inducing.
Capped it off with getting Chris Ware's Building Stories on Sunday.
Saw some Blacksad originals which were also humbling and tear inducing.
Capped it off with getting Chris Ware's Building Stories on Sunday.
Spent the weekend catching up on some DC shiz which I haven't read in about 6 months. Night of the Owls was a disaster from start to finish. Embarrassing really. Aquaman is the best book DC is putting out. Wonder Woman is the best book DC is putting out that doesn't have Aquaman in it. Lastly, a year ago I never would have said this, but I'm so sick of the Red/Green/Rot nonsense in Animal Man and Swamp Thing. A year ago that sounded like the best shit ever but after a dozen issues of each I just want them to move the fuck on so I can never read Swamp Thing again and Animal Man gets back to the Baker family nonsense that I loved from the first arc.
How was it? Saw the trailer at their NYCC panel and noticed it had a lot less Pawn Star type stuff in it than the first season.
Ya I'm happy with the new location as well and hope it's permanent going forward. That's really the one aspect that completely destroys SDCC. The AA there is in a corner behind all the gaming setups and celeb autograph booths in addition to being much smaller.
BenjaminBirdie
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I will say, if I didn't have a Pro pass I'd never go to NYCC ever. We got there at 10:30 Sunday and the line was literally three blocks long.
Insanity. I can only imagine how bad Saturday was.
Insanity. I can only imagine how bad Saturday was.
Maybe I just hit the wrong places at the wrong times but it seemed like Sunday was the most packed by far. It was part of the reason I left early which I almost never do.
I enjoyed it, they are in a new layout in their store and the pawning part of it was MUCH shorter this time around.
BenjaminBirdie
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The pathway to Artist's Alley was stopped. Like, stopped. Like, you could not walk forward.
slightconfuse
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The pictures coming out of Saturday made me glad I did not go.
BenjaminBirdie
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I hate the con, but I love seeing my pals. Everyone I talked to is thinking about just cold skipping Saturday next year and going to Coney Island or some shit for the day.
The X-Wing series was great, written by Michael A. Stackpole like the first few X-Wing novels. IIRC, the first arc wasn't by him and can be completely skipped.
Tales of the Jedi was pretty good, and got stronger as it went. Really early stories of epic Jedi vs Sith wars. It has a connection to Kevin J Anderson's book trilogy.
The Dark Empire series is pretty neat, with Luke dabbling in the dark side as Palpatine returns from the dead to inhabit a clone.
The series simply titled Star Wars (looking it up, apparently it later was called Star Wars: Republic) was pretty good. It starts before The Phantom Menace and runs on for a long time. At least the early stuff follows Ki-Adi-Mundi (the Jedi Council dude with the cone head), and then there's some interesting stuff with a Quinlan Vos guy. I quit when the series catches up to the Clone Wars, by that point I had simply soured on the prequels in general, even if the comics were still good.
I haven't read anything over the last 10 years, so that's all from the mid-to-late 90s and the very early 2000s.
TDLink
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Again though, they only did it with 2 characters...both of which were killed in Annihilation and brought back literally years later closer to the end of their run (basically to set up for Thanos Imperative which I am sure they weren't thinking of during Annihilation, which they also weren't the sole writers on).
Now, they didn't kill many characters in general, but every other character they killed during their run stayed dead, so I am not really sure who you mean.
" Get ready for a go-for-broke ending, which sets up the next great GREEN LANTERN event!"
Can't we just chill out a bit? Plus New Guardians and Corps aren't good books which compounds the disappointment that i'm supposed to buy all three GL books to see a story play out ( and red lanterns too i guess). And the "for reals" ending of Third Army is supposed to take place in a $5 GLC annual too...
Can't we just chill out a bit? Plus New Guardians and Corps aren't good books which compounds the disappointment that i'm supposed to buy all three GL books to see a story play out ( and red lanterns too i guess). And the "for reals" ending of Third Army is supposed to take place in a $5 GLC annual too...
Setre
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sazabirules and Dan both make good recommendations, mine are going to echo theirs.
My favorite time period in the Star Wars Universe is the Old Republic, simply because at the time when I started reading Star Wars comics there was really no other material that took place during this timeline. When I started reading Tales of the Jedi the run had been over for years but it showed me there was more to this universe than Luke, Vader, Stormtroopers, and the like. If you want to experience a really good run of comics read Tales of the Jedi. Here’s a list in which order you should read them.
Tales of the Jedi: The Golden Age of the Sith*
Tales of the Jedi: The Fall of the Sith Empire*
Tales of the Jedi: The Old Republic
Tales of the Jedi: The Freedon Nadd Uprising
Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith (my favorite)
Tales of the Jedi: Sith War
Tales of the Jedi: Redemption
*Golden Age and Fall were created after everything else, besides Redemption, and show how the Sith first got started.
Another good run of comics, as Dan recommended, is Republic but continue after he did into the Clone Wars. While I love Tales of the Jedi the Republic/Clone Wars run was some of the best I’ve ever read. They expand on characters you see in the prequels and actually give more depth to Obi and Anakin. Overall a great series and I actually think any comics reader should give them a shot.
If you want to continue where the Clone Wars left off you can go right into Dark Times, I’ve only read the first 2 TPBs but they were pretty good and show how the Jedi had to deal with the aftermath of Order 66.
Going back to my love of the Old Republic era you should give Knights of the Old Republic a shot as well. It focuses on a Jedi whose been framed for a murder and is on the run from his former Master. It also takes place before the game so you have a few cameos by Revan and Malak.
Empire is another good run. It doesn’t really focus on one character and jumps around telling different stories set between ANH and RotJ. It’s fairly short and it’s run continued into Rebellion which was even shorter. If you want to see Darth Vader kick some ass and stories focused slightly more on the Empire give it a shot.
As sazabirules mentioned Legacy is set 125 years after RotJ so everyone you know is dead. It’s a really good series and focuses on one of Luke’s ancestors as the main protagonists. I’ve only read a couple of TPBs back I really enjoyed them.
Like I mentioned in an earlier post I just finished Knights Errant, another Old Republic era book, and it was okay. So far Knights of the Old Republic was better in its first storyline but Errant has potential. Invasion also has potential and will probably be better simply because it has established material to work with. Invasion takes place during the New Jedi Order era which had its own series of books. It’ll be interesting to see how they get their main character to interact with some of the events that happened during NJO. Plus I’ve always wanted to see the Yuuzhan Vong in comic form, besides their brief appearance in Legacy.
And finally just read Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison. As I said earlier I’ve only read 3 issues but it’s really good. Seems like a story that would have been perfect for Empire/Rebellion.
Edit: I forgot to mention Dawn of the Jedi. I haven't read it yet but plan to. It's actually set before the Old Republic era and tells how the very first Jedi came to be and their interaction with the Sith.
slightconfuse
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I've heard good things about john ostranders Star Wars legacy run.
iirc,
Thanos, Moondragon, both Quasars, and I think Adam Warlock
TDLink
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No.
Adam Warlock disappeared during/after the Thanos 12 part series that was a pre-cursor to Annihilation (Which Abnett and Lanning had nothing to do with). He pops out of a Church of Universal Truth resurrection Cocoon in Annihilation: Conquest. Due to this we can assume he died but it is never explicitly stated that he did, or shown. The main purpose of it, I believe, was establishing the concept of the resurrection Cocoon. This plot element was then used to bring back Thanos a couple of years later before The Thanos Imperative. Thanos died during Annihilation via Drax ripping his heart out, Annihilation of course was written in part by Abnett and Lanning but also with a handful of other writers. They did not get complete creative control over the direction of Cosmic until Annihilation: Conquest.
Wendell Vaughn (Quasar) was killed by Annihilus during Annihilation, specifically in the Nova mini that was part of it (which DnA did write on their own, though probably after discussion with the writers of the other Annihilation parts). He was brought back later, in the Nova ongoing, prior to the events of The Thanos Imperative via some comic-book logic. Like I said before, he and Thanos are the only two I really consider DnA having killed and brought back (and again, other writers may have been involved in both of these situations).
Phyla-Vell, the other Quasar, actually died during their run and did not come back. Actually, Thanos killed her directly after coming out of his resurrection pod. I will say, I don't actually remember Moondragon dying so I am not sure where that is from. My memory is a bit vague on why she actually turned into a dragon during Conquest though so there could be potentially something I am forgetting with her.
Wendell Vaughn (Quasar) was killed by Annihilus during Annihilation, specifically in the Nova mini that was part of it (which DnA did write on their own, though probably after discussion with the writers of the other Annihilation parts). He was brought back later, in the Nova ongoing, prior to the events of The Thanos Imperative via some comic-book logic. Like I said before, he and Thanos are the only two I really consider DnA having killed and brought back (and again, other writers may have been involved in both of these situations).
Phyla-Vell, the other Quasar, actually died during their run and did not come back. Actually, Thanos killed her directly after coming out of his resurrection pod. I will say, I don't actually remember Moondragon dying so I am not sure where that is from. My memory is a bit vague on why she actually turned into a dragon during Conquest though so there could be potentially something I am forgetting with her.
So yeah that is 2, maybe 3, characters that they killed and revived. That's pretty good considering their Cosmic run lasted like what, 6 years?
Holy shit, thanks guys! Tales of the Jedi will be first, the Old Republic is also my favorite time period. I even like KOTOR 1&2 more than any of the movies :x. Republic and Knights of the Old Republic sound interesting as well.
It lost some steam as it went on but not to the point where i regretted reading it, and it does take some turns and twists so it's not just straight forward predictable. I'd skip Incorruptible though, too slow, didn't add enough, decently entertaining.
BenjaminBirdie
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Wait the Lopez issues?!? Best Cypher art of all time.
Affeinvasion
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I also really like the Crimson Empire books about a former Imperial Royal Guard. The great thing about the Star Wars comics is they are all pretty easy to obtain in nice-sized very reasonably priced "omnibuses".
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