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The third in the series of four debates for the 2012 Presidential election is right around the corner!

Date: Tuesday, October 16th
Time: 9:00-10:30 PM EST
Place: Hofstra University, Hempstead, NY
Partipants:

Barack Hussein Obama, President of the United States of America, versus...

Willard Mitt Romney, former governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, AND FEATURING...

a group of undecided voters selected by the Gallup Corporation!
Moderator:

Candy Crowley, CNN Chief Political Correspondent ( http://www.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/crowley.candy.html )
Format: The second presidential debate will take the form of a town meeting, in which citizens will ask questions of the candidates on foreign and domestic issues. Candidates each will have two minutes to respond, and an additional minute for the moderator to facilitate a discussion. The town meeting participants will be undecided voters selected by the Gallup Organization.
Streams:
The Voice Of http://news.yahoo.com/thevoiceof/ http://thevoiceof.aol.com/ http://www.youtube.com/thevoiceof
Google Politics http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/live
Daily Beast http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/16/presidential-debate-dashboard-round-2.html
C-SPAN http://www.c-span.org/debates/
CBS http://www.livestream.com/cbsnews

Cable News Circle of Shame
CNN http://live.cnn.com/
Fox News http://live.foxnews.com/
MSNBC http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032553/ns/politics/#.UH3ya2-HJ8E

Who will win? Will Obama remember to show up for the debate this time? Will Romney claim to be unemployed again? How could these people possibly still be undecided voters? What the hell is wrong with them? There's only one way to find out!

This debate could determine the future of our country! Sure, it probably won't, but that's what we said about the first presidential debate, and look what happened! Do you really want to take that chance? Tune in this Tuesday and see these professional politicians face their most dangerous adversaries -- real human beings!

Previous debate threads:
Week 1: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=493757
Week 2: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=494714

 

[Forever]

I'm almost afraid to watch.

 

[Half and half]

Hope Crowley is a better moderator than that Lehrer chump.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Well gosh fellas, I've looked at all the candidates and read all the newspapers and I just can't vote for either of these men! Oh, if only Democrats and Republicans could just get along, then we'd all be better for it.

 

[ivysaur12]

So, do they have to have their questions vetted by anyone first? Or could these people just stand up and ask Obama about his Kenyan roots and waste all of our time?

 

[Gattsu25]

I think this will be interesting but I'm not expecting Romney to suddenly stop lying his fucking ass off like he was doing in the last decade

 

[Forever]

So, do they have to have their questions vetted by anyone first? Or could these people just stand up and ask Obama about his Kenyan roots and waste all of our time?

The questions are cleared beforehand by the moderator.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

So, do they have to have their questions vetted by anyone first? Or could these people just stand up and ask Obama about his Kenyan roots and waste all of our time?

Yes, of course they are vetted.

It's not a free for all.

 

[mercenar1e]

they should name the debates - who's the better liar

 

[Killthee]

Hoping Crowley doesn't disappoint on Tuesday.

 

[Effect]

So, do they have to have their questions vetted by anyone first? Or could these people just stand up and ask Obama about his Kenyan roots and waste all of our time?

They're checked in advance so crap like that doesn't happen.

 

[nib95]

Not a big fan of Crowley, but can't wait to watch the debate.

they should name the debates - who's the better liar

If the bet is on who will lie more instead of who will win, the stakes are too easy. Romney will out lie Obama 5-1 or more.

 

[nib95]

dp.

 

[Oblivion]

Part 2.

 

[speculawyer]

The colored fellow is very well-spoken but I'm leaning toward the guy with the Harvard law degree.

 

[Artemisia]

man I thought this was tonight.

;_;

 

[Esch]

The colored fellow is very well-spoken but I'm leaning toward the guy with the Harvard law degree.

that obama guy, real class act

 

[B-Dubs]

I tried to get into the audience for this one, no luck. Gonna watch it with GAF instead.

FUCKING HELL man, the damn debate is happening like two miles from me and I have to watch it on TV...bullshit

 

[Bowdz]

Obama is in a very tough situation. He needs to call Romney out on the flip flops and bullshit from last time and whatever he spews Tuesday, but still needs to show he is more likeable and relatable in the town hall format. My fear is that Obama will try to be aggressive and stumble on the later.

Here's to hoping he puts up a better performance than he did last debate.

 

[The Technomancer]

So what are the odds that the group of moderates are mostly conservative?

 

[Wes]

For some reason I have in my head the notion that Obama likes townhall style setups. Did I just conjure this out of nowhere or is there some reality behind it? He certainly needs a strong performance. I don't think he can rely solely on performing well in the final Foreign Policy debate.

 

[B-Dubs]

For some reason I have in my head the notion that Obama likes townhall style setups. Did I just conjure this out of nowhere or is there some reality behind it? He certainly needs a strong performance. I don't think he can rely solely on performing well in the final Foreign Policy debate.

He connects well with people, it's why most of the GOP's attacks against him don't work. The first debate detached them both and that worked in Romney's favor, he's never been good at making that personal connection and looks awkward when he tries. So Obama has a bit of an edge going into this one.

 

[Dabanton]

undecided voters

This phrase just fills me with dread now.

I just hear 'Low Information Voters' hopefully they prove me wrong and actually ask searching and interesting questions.

Actually who decides on the questions asked?

 

[XenodudeX]

Part 2.

Haha. Pretty much.

 

[Forever]

I really want to see how Romney would react to debating Biden.

 

[Averon]

Obama SHOULD have a much better debate this time around due to the format and him being keenly aware what mistakes he made in the first debate. Then again, who thought Obama would perform so poorly in the first debate.

 

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

The colored fellow is very well-spoken but I'm leaning toward the guy with the Harvard law degree.

So, Romney. I'm glad you're coming around.

 

[Snowden's Secret]

Town Hall format is my least favorite presidential debate. It's just a bunch of honky, meaningless personal anecdotes, abd generally moves slower than usual. Last week's breakneck VP debate is my preferred pace.

Foreign policy > VP > Domestic > Town Hall generally.

Foreign policy debate is best/most useful because that's the area presidents have the most direct role, unlike domestic issues where at best they advise congress.

 

[B-Dubs]

Town Hall format is my least favorite presidential debate. It's just a bunch of honky, meaningless personal anecdotes, abd generally moves slower than usual. Last week's breakneck VP debate is my preferred pace.

Foreign policy > VP > Domestic > Town Hall generally.

Foreign policy debate is best/most useful because that's the area presidents have the most direct role, unlike domestic issues where at best they advise congress.

Sadly most people don't realize this though.

 

[captmcblack]

So what are the odds that the group of moderates are mostly conservative?

Since this is America...I'm going to say very high.

These "undecided" voters are thankfully not going to ask any ridiculous questions about Kenyan Muslim socialism, but I am fully expecting stuff about 716 billion, this Libya thing, and for there to be at least one millionaire "small business owner" talking about why healthcare or business taxes should target him or something.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Lets hope Obama remembers to bring his balls this time

 

[Dram]

Town Hall debate 2008

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/281621-2

 

[Diablos]

This is what will decide the election imo. If Obama does ok, he'll probably win. If he gets pwnt by Mitt, all bets are off

 

[Synth_floyd]

Where do they come up with these undecided voters? I would lie and say I'm undecided.

 

[jtb]

Obama cannot afford to shit the bed again. I fucking hate these town hall debates though... fuck all these stupid undecided voters.

 

[Rentahamster]

I wanna see a debate with just them two, no moderator. Give each candidate 5 topics of their choosing and go to town.

Or, have a team debate. Team of President, VP, + 2 other ppl of their choosing. Notes allowed. Signs allowed. Laptop and internet allowed. Chalkboard allowed. I would like to see this.

The debate formats we have now are kinda worthless and only give us soundbites.

 

[Emerson]

I wanna see a debate with just them two, no moderator.

We already had that one.

 

[Particle Physicist]

The colored fellow is very well-spoken but I'm leaning toward the guy with the Harvard law degree.

I overheard someone say they are voting for 'the white one, not the black one.' In Spanish though, not in English.

 

[jerry113]

We already had that one.

This was the first time I genuinely spat soda onto my keyboard.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

I wanna see a debate with just them two, no moderator. Give each candidate 5 topics of their choosing and go to town.

Or, have a team debate. Team of President, VP, + 2 other ppl of their choosing. Notes allowed. Signs allowed. Laptop and internet allowed. Chalkboard allowed. I would like to see this.

The debate formats we have now are kinda worthless and only give us soundbites.

I just want to drop the pretense and see a barekuckle muay-thai fight. Last man standing is your new president

 

[Jim]

I work literally in the building next door to Hofstra U. and the media is already showing up. Couple of helicopters buzzing around the area, and tons of barricades, etc. A good chunk of roads will be closed from 5am through midnight.

Should be a fun time getting in to work! I could probably stay home, but curiosity of the potential chaos is winning out.

 

[SnakeswithLasers]

I love how the media shapes a narrative on these things.

 

[Dude Abides]

It's on Lawn Guyland so at the very least some of the questioner's accents should be entertaining.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

What time is this on @ in UK/IRL?

Might stay up for it.

 

[The Lamonster]

haha nice Saturday Night Live reference in the thread title.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/23/undecided-voters-saturday-night-live-video_n_1907145.html

 

[Zzoram]

Obama is in a very tough situation. He needs to call Romney out on the flip flops and bullshit from last time and whatever he spews Tuesday, but still needs to show he is more likeable and relatable in the town hall format. My fear is that Obama will try to be aggressive and stumble on the later.

Here's to hoping he puts up a better performance than he did last debate.

It's hard to accuse the other guy of lying without seeming like a jerk. Unfortunately most voters will watch the debate but not the fact checking afterwards so there is a lot of incentive to lie and not a lot to call out lies.

 

[Angry Grimace]

So, Romney. I'm glad you're coming around.

*slow clap*

 

[LegendofJoe]

Any guesses regarding to the questions that will be asked? What kind of soft ball questions do you guys/girls think they'll get?

 

[Mully]

I'll be covering the debate. I'll probably create a live-blog and post impressions immediately after the debate.

 

[speculawyer]

So, Romney. I'm glad you're coming around.

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