Make sure you get a link to your app in the Windows Store then. I think most Windows 8 users will be using the Store to search for and install apps.
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Make sure you get a link to your app in the Windows Store then. I think most Windows 8 users will be using the Store to search for and install apps.
Well could buy a surface and it might get apps to do all those things well in the next 6 months, or it might not, or you could buy one of the Atom tablets and know there are Windows 7 apps you can use.
Either way it would be best to wait till the end of the month when reviewers will get their hands on everything and we will know which OEMs have done a good job, whether or not the Atom tablets have enough power, etc etc.
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that is exactly what this is, right now....
The desktop version isn't released yet. Am I missing your point or something? You can completely ignore the desktop, because it doesn't exist in this tablet.
Out of curiosity, what kind of apps are we talking. Your typical desktop app is much different from your typical phone/tablet app. If it is closer to a phone/tablet app, I wouldn't be surprised if people would rather not use it.
It does exist, you just can't install anything to it. You have full access to Office, Control Panel, File System, etc. You don't have to use them, but they are there
Yeah, you guys are right about the video editing.
Thing is, I really liked the Ipad's ability to make music with the touchscreen, but I disliked the apple proprietary formats that were useless with the windows setup at home. Meaning anything I composed on the fly was not transferable. So I had the idea of waiting for the Surface so it could use the same program formats (i.e. reason) that could transfer my things when I got home. I do a lot of little composing on campus so I was really hoping for the surface to be what I needed for that.
The Atom tablets sound interesting, I've never really heard about them. Thanks for suggesting them, I'll follow up.
Well, nothing prevents the existence of an app that does the same thing as garage band or imovie, the hardware on this is more than capable of the light editing you seem to do if I am reading your post correct
It's more composing on the fly. I'm always writing music and humming tunes, and I always wanted a device that allowed me to just record them on the spot for later. The ipad was ok, but the file formats were so awful they weren't transferable to my main music making machine.
So that's why I was leaning towards the surface, but the advice from other people is starting to sway me.
seems like a waste of money to buy premium priced devices.
I spent hours upon hours trying to convert the file into something that didn't ruin the quality. Something just didn't transmit right.
Oh, i would recommend an Atom tablet as well, but for this it doesn't really make a difference, metro apps (like the ones you want) should run flawessly on all tablets, either RT or x86, and this being windows I would expect compatible files and formats
So the RT will be a lightweight touchscreen that'll support the music apps that are compatible with my home windows comp? That's useful to know.
Man its crazy to think what a big difference $100 makes. If this had been announced at $399, this would have been a different thread. MS has a serious uphill battle now. I'm still interested in one, but it'll be long road down, when the dust clears and the app store is a bit more robust till think $600 is worthwhile. Will be interesting to see how reviewers come down on it.
Except there probably arent any of those apps yet. It won't support "normal" windows software.
Ugh. So it'd be a bit of a gamble.
Oh well. I guess I have to wait. I'd rather not get a laptop for the music making; the size and lack of touchscreen defeats the purpose of composing on the fly.
That's without the touch cover. 499$ without the touch cover, which is one of its main marketing gimmicks. That's an additional 120$.
The thing is that you would need to wait first for such apps to be announced, what I meant is that the capabilities are there, we now have the price and availability announced for the surface, but next week is Windows 8 presentation and the app situation will be more clear then
Something like this might be perfect for you. http://www.pcworld.com/article/2011646/sony-duo-11-ultrabook-blurring-the-line-between-tablet-and-laptop.html
Got it. Thanks for your advice. I'll check it out in a week.
They should've priced it lower then
Canis lupus
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Really need more info on the Pro version.
Trust me. It will be $399 within 6 months. or less.
Its lower than the respectives 32 and 64gb iPads
But those actually have apps to fill that space. Is it really going to look like a bargain over the iPad? I doubt it.
Do you mean price? Because we know the specs of it.
Baconsammy
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120 for a cover? How very Apple of you, Microsoft.
Not if they are looking to have a premium tablet that moves a few million units and makes a profit. Which by all indications is exactly what they are trying to do.
HollovVpo1nt
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I really, really cannot figure out how on earth people were thinking that the surface RT might be close to $299, if we compare it to something like the Nexus 7.
The nexus 7 is 249 dollar for the 16 GB model right? The surface RT has:
- Better internal hardware
- Better external hardware
- Bigger screen
- More ports
- Keyboard
- More storage
- Premium OS (it's a payed OS, don't dwell on the premium term too much)
Is there any sane individual that thought the sablet, with all the above points I've mentionned, would be just 50 dollars more than the Nexus 7? Come on guys.. I think that pricing it 400 dollars would already by very agressively/competitively. I think that it'll cost around 450 euro's/dollars, give or take 50.
The nexus 7 is 249 dollar for the 16 GB model right? The surface RT has:
- Better internal hardware
- Better external hardware
- Bigger screen
- More ports
- Keyboard
- More storage
- Premium OS (it's a payed OS, don't dwell on the premium term too much)
Is there any sane individual that thought the sablet, with all the above points I've mentionned, would be just 50 dollars more than the Nexus 7? Come on guys.. I think that pricing it 400 dollars would already by very agressively/competitively. I think that it'll cost around 450 euro's/dollars, give or take 50.
I think your typical tech early adopters will have to carry the platform initially while the app market matures and becomes acceptable for the mass market. I have a hard time believing that someone that is all about apps would have considered a Surface at $399 knowing that it'd be missing most of the apps that they need.
Anton Sugar
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Eh, not outraged over this. Not sure if I'll pick one up (need to get some reviews of those keyboards and other OEM hardware), but people are negatively comparing this to the iPad based on the market, not value. In terms of hardware value (and presuming the app store will explode), it's comparable, if not better, than the iPad 3. I'll take the accessory ports over Retina Display.
Not a bargain, no; but the MS strategy is clear now, they want to use the Windows brand to position themselves deserving a premium status even above the iPad, I don't know if is the right aproach, but also I don't think is a wrong aproach, in all honestly it all depend on the apps and MS's capacity to convince developers, which we know is big (even Windows Phone with is inexistent marketshare has more than 100 000 apps, imagine how many will have the store of the most popular OS)
Its doable. Amazon Kindle 9" is 299, and it has better screen. I think MS design the case with too much expensive material.
If there is a Surface 2, I expect much cheaper case material.
Or they could focus on the part of their business that actually makes money (Windows and Office) and use the Surface as a tool to build developer and customer interest in their new platform.
Wiktor
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Why not get a Transformer-like hybrid? Seems like best solution for you.
Then they should have stayed static and let the OEMs do it for them as they have in the past, its not like Windows would not still sell in the hundreds of millions
Wiktor
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http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/laptop/ideapad/u-series/u310/
U310 start from 700$. They're really nice ultrabooks. They do not look like Airs, have much better keyboards than any other ultrabook except X1 Carbon. The only real downside is that they're limited to 1336x768 screens.
Yeah that doesn't seem to be the direction Microsoft wants to head in...
Ooh, those do look nice. Any option to upgrade to a higher resolution?
Guys, dont get a rt device. Clovertrail atom tablets will be $500-$600 and will have 8-10hrs of battery life. I see no reason to get a RT device.
i'm sure RT takes up less space than 8.
This.
But with the exception of the Acer w510, I don't know of any other cheap Atom tablet
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