The Faceless Master
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oh yeah, i completely forgot about the difference in OS size between Windows and those other guys! yet another reason why a 16GB model would be a tough sell. might as well call it an 8GB model!
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oh yeah, i completely forgot about the difference in OS size between Windows and those other guys! yet another reason why a 16GB model would be a tough sell. might as well call it an 8GB model!
My arms and neck move, and I can position my monitor on my desk wherever I please.
the keyboard cover is apparently sturdy enough for lap use, which I was wondering about at least
also, 65 and 86 wpm from two members of the team
hey, I've been using my Surface for a couple of month now. It works on your lap in multiple ways. Typing on the lap works fine, Surface is great for typing while on your couch. There are so many ways it folds and adjusts to your typing needs. You will be pleasantly surprised.
also, 65 and 86 wpm from two members of the team
Interficium
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Why does Windows RT even exist?
Honest question. Is there a reason they've segmented it Win 8/Win RT/Win Phone 8?
Honest question. Is there a reason they've segmented it Win 8/Win RT/Win Phone 8?
The Faceless Master
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Microsoft being Microsoft. there's no good reason for RT and phone to be different things.
Because ARM allows for cheaper prices and higher battery life...
Until Intel surprised everyone with the x86 Atom clovertrail processors
Dreams-Visions
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I was thinking of a clever retort...but can't.
I think the draw of ARM was supposed to be superior mobility (battery life) and price potential (noticeably less than iPad). Doesn't really feel like those things materialized.
I'd rather have a cheap Atom Pro than an RT. Of course, I'd buy neither (I'm going i5 Pro or nothing)....but I've never felt good about the RT and today doesn't change that at all. Feels like all of the weaknesses and none of the strengths of W8.
we'll see soon enough. the lack of strong PR to date means RT devices are something of a blank slate, to which the opinion of the media will create the mass market opinion of. It's not starting off on the right foot, and some times you never get a second chance to make a first impression.
timetokill
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Man, I went to the preorder site and was all psyched at the price... then I noticed it was RT and that you have to pay extra for a good cover. Blech.
Hope the "pro" version comes in at sub-1k, but with those prices it doesn't seem likely.
Hope the "pro" version comes in at sub-1k, but with those prices it doesn't seem likely.
But with these prices one can extrapolate that MS will price the Surface Pro head to head with the Macbook Air, so $899-$999 for the basic model is my bet
Microsoft announcing RT forced Intel to step their game up...
Dreams-Visions
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I don't think that's how microchip development works.
brotkasten
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New Surface ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcU-xf-skts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcU-xf-skts
Only if they had a time machine.
Intel had the clovertrail in development for some time ago, but they delivered, especially in the battery life expectation for an x86 processor, more than 8hrs is excellent
-Pyromaniac-
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way better than that dancing bullshit. Just show features without anything else being the distraction.
Should have been the first Surface ad.
Dreams-Visions
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only serves to make me more impatient about the Surface Pro launch.
Better than the previous, and it could easily be trimmed to 30 seconds and still deliver the message
It is a slick damn device, but dadgumit I will need a holiday deal for me to get this thing.
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wait a sec.... 480 is 625 usd.
NOT BAD MS. I was expecting 'lol change the symbol' pricing.
damn that makes it look good. if they can ramp up with the xbox games on this as well I'll be impressed. controller support for xbox games perhaps? I just wanna play binding of isaac on it! (which would require the pro and steam, as well as flash at this point, which is a dream that isn't happening I guess)
dem pixels when they zoom in on the charms bar
really is a sexy device.
too bad about the price
Dreams-Visions
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nope. because it's so new and such a departure for MS, there are several features that they have to discuss for several seconds each:
1.) The OS in general
2.) The touchpad cover
3.) Office
4.) That kickstand
...while spending enough time showing the main RT UI to make people want to go to stores to check it out.
Penguins&PolarBears
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I hope they air something like this and we don't end up seeing the dancing BS running 24/7 on TV for the next 3 months.
The next time someone on GAF tries to claim that people can't define hipster, I'm busting out this ad at 1:12 - 1:19.
Well yeah you are right, but a typical TV ad is 30 seconds long (dat attention span) so they could split this 1:30 minute ad in several ones for adressing all the points you mentioned without problem, it could work as long as they spam all the channels at every chance they have.
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Souless_PJ
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New ad is much better and shows its defining features off nicely. It is it the first piece of non Apple hardware to give me that tech-lust for a long while.
Still think $500 with cover would have been a home run.
Still think $500 with cover would have been a home run.
-Pyromaniac-
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easily. It's that added cost that takes it into scary price territory.
No because this will be one of the first on the go consumer tablet devices to feature a proper version of Office. You presented kind of a chicken and egg scenario. On the other hand the number of people using Pages and the like is HUGE. SO there is demand for it.
Baconsammy
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People have been clamoring for it on iPad forever. Apple's own paltry word processing program just doesnt cut it.
Anton Sugar
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That's...exactly the point. iPad is considered a consumer device because it sucks as a creation/productivity device. Surface, theoretically, will blur the lines between tablet and laptops.
Speaking anecdotally, yes, I would use my current tablet a LOT more if it weren't such a pain to type onto the onscreen keyboard.
Laptops sell more than desktops, and a huge % of those laptops have Office installed on them so yes, Office is not available in other devices so how can anyone now how many people would use MS Office on them, but office suites are always well ranked on iOS and Android as best sellers
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think of all the people sitting in starbucks writing their blog that nobody cares about!
Fucking perfect....lol.
will wait for reviews. My ipad 3 is really stale. Don't see how this won't do netflix, email, and web browsing even less.
Anton Sugar
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Some good stuff from the AMA:
hey, I've been using my Surface for a couple of month now. It works on your lap in multiple ways. Typing on the lap works fine, Surface is great for typing while on your couch. There are so many ways it folds and adjusts to your typing needs. You will be pleasantly surprised.
King Of Fuh
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Just have to say that while I think the Surface is a beautiful machine and I was super excited when it was first announced, I just can't justify spending 599 on one with a keyboard.
This is not to say I think the ipad is worth the 599, I don't. If I were to buy one or the other, it would be the surface for sure. But 600 dollars for either one of them is ridiculous to me for something that is going to ultimately just be used for netflix in bed, internet browsing on the couch, some shallow novelty games, and the occasional e-book (which is basically what I currently use my touchpad with android on it for).
Now that there are a couple decent tablets in the sub-300 category, with potentially another one about to be announced by Apple, I think the novelty factor of a large expensive tablet will not be able to overcome the opportunity for consumers to have a similar experience for half the price on a bit smaller screen.
That makes me sad because I really wanted the Surface to be super succesful, and I wanted one myself. I guess the landscape has just changed since then. The Pro may be a different story, we'll see.
This is not to say I think the ipad is worth the 599, I don't. If I were to buy one or the other, it would be the surface for sure. But 600 dollars for either one of them is ridiculous to me for something that is going to ultimately just be used for netflix in bed, internet browsing on the couch, some shallow novelty games, and the occasional e-book (which is basically what I currently use my touchpad with android on it for).
Now that there are a couple decent tablets in the sub-300 category, with potentially another one about to be announced by Apple, I think the novelty factor of a large expensive tablet will not be able to overcome the opportunity for consumers to have a similar experience for half the price on a bit smaller screen.
That makes me sad because I really wanted the Surface to be super succesful, and I wanted one myself. I guess the landscape has just changed since then. The Pro may be a different story, we'll see.
Baconsammy
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Didnt realize it had all those ports on it. That alone pushes it far beyond iPad. Living up here in Seattle means someone's bound to have one near me soon. Can't wait to check it out.
I don't think I've seen this being used in portrait mode yet, in any of the MS advertising... does it not work or something?
The new advertisement with the female narrator is waaaaaay better than any of the other commercials I've seen, the dancing one is kind of obnoxious.
However, one thing I find a bit odd, is how the device is literally propped up and stationary in every shot in that new ad. Don't get me wrong, the keyboard cover is slick and I'm jealous I don't have it for my iPad, but nevertheless, to me, the appeal of a tablet is holding it, not using it exactly like a netbook.
The new advertisement with the female narrator is waaaaaay better than any of the other commercials I've seen, the dancing one is kind of obnoxious.
However, one thing I find a bit odd, is how the device is literally propped up and stationary in every shot in that new ad. Don't get me wrong, the keyboard cover is slick and I'm jealous I don't have it for my iPad, but nevertheless, to me, the appeal of a tablet is holding it, not using it exactly like a netbook.
I am really liking what I'm seeing with this and the new lumia W8 phone but I'll never understand why my kids will still want ipad and iphone.
Although having office for this could tip her over, it's her biggest complaint with apple HW. She would love to carry her stuff from work on a USB stick and then plug it into this when she gets home, she can't do that with ipad and that's why ipad is nothing more than something to look at photos and post on FB.
Although having office for this could tip her over, it's her biggest complaint with apple HW. She would love to carry her stuff from work on a USB stick and then plug it into this when she gets home, she can't do that with ipad and that's why ipad is nothing more than something to look at photos and post on FB.
Anton Sugar
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It can and does.
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