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[RDreamer]

Or, it actually means handouts.

... to black people

 

[OriginofHysteria]

Ha, agreed here.

I want to protect Isreal because they are the only democracy over there, they have nuclear weapons, and one of our only allies over there.

Also home to the best air force in the world.

 

[Tex117]

... to black people

Or to anybody qualifying for handouts.

 

[RDreamer]

Or to anybody qualifying for handouts.

Look, we all know what they were trying to conjure with those accusations, and we all know what a good amount of these types of people think of when people talk about handouts. It's dog whistle racism.

 

[Valjean Lafitte]

I'm not sure if your answer or his is more disturbing. I sort of preferred my preconceptions... at least they made some sort of political sense to me.

Thanks all the same though. Very educational.

You're welcome, though I should add that "heresy" was a bit too strong of a word. Its not like there is some sort of Vatican dictate that says all Christians must support Israel, but generally speaking believers do tend to side with the race of people whose religion theirs is an offshoot of. It makes sense to me, and I'm sorry you find it disturbing.

cool well some people don't want official policy especially concerning possible nuclear war to be based on 4000 year old disputes between nomads killing each other because they were told to by sky ghosts

Ah, that's why I had you on my ignore list. *closes box*

... to black people

..or white trash rednecks.

I actually live in the South and know what people are talking about when they talk about "handouts".

 

[Averon]

From PoliGAF

Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election

 

[Tex117]

Look, we all know what they were trying to conjure with those accusations, and we all know what a good amount of these types of people think of when people talk about handouts. It's dog whistle racism.

Unfortunatly, in some part (we can debate how big), some people probably think the way you described.

However,

You can have an intellectual discussion over entitlement reform, assistance programs, etc. and not be a racist.

 

[Jzero]

From PoliGAF

I thought they were all coming from Texas.

 

[RDreamer]

Unfortunatly, in some part (we can debate how big), some people probably think the way you described.

However,

You can have an intellectual discussion over entitlement reform, assistance programs, etc. and not be a racist.

Sure, but they weren't having that discussion. They were accusing Obama of waiving the work requirement of welfare. That's a rather pointed (and completely false) accusation quite far from any real conversation on entitlement reform.

 

[thetrin]

It makes me so sad that we are such a racially divided nation, and that it runs so deep. Being a minority myself, I can't do much besides just shake my head. I thank my luck that I happen to be surrounded by level headed, intelligent and tolerant people.

 

[levious]

No surprise? If that is supposed to be some sort of personal dig at me because of something I said in another thread, do me a favor and PM me about instead of being so passive aggressive, will ya?




I am a religious moderate conservative and have been around Christians all my life. I can tell you with absolute certainly that that is utter bullshit, and that the only reason the religious right is adamant about protecting Israel is because it is the land of the Jews, who are, Biblically speaking, God's chosen people. The Bible is comprised of the contents of the Tanakh and early Jewish-Christian books and letters. To call yourself a follower of Christ and not be a political ally of Israel would be heresy.

your contributions to the funny pics thread, if that was another megaman guy, apologies.

as to your second, pledging eternal loyalty to another nation because of religious ties is frightening.

 

[Tex117]

I thought they were all coming from Texas.

It may shock many of you to know that Texas is actually not insane.

Alabama and Mississippi are though.

 

[Klocker]

Some really interesting data in there, thanks.

this surprised and delighted me

On most political matters, do you consider yourself:


Moderate

total 41%

Obama 56%


Romney 41%

so hopefully they will double down on the crazy "not conservative enough" nonsense and alienate even more moderates... then they can get 45% of popular vote next time and then less than 40 would be great as we assimilate more and more moderate republicans.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-exit-poll/US/President

 

[thetrin]

Texas has Austin. It can't be THAT crazy as long as a wonderful city like that exists.

 

[Valjean Lafitte]

your contributions to the funny pics thread, if that was another megaman guy, apologies.

No, that was me. Sorry you don't like my sense of humor, but this isn't the place for passive aggressive bitching about it, is it?

 

[Tex117]

Sure, but they weren't having that discussion. They were accusing Obama of waiving the work requirement of welfare. That's a rather pointed (and completely false) accusation quite far from any real conversation on entitlement reform.

Serves me right for not having facebook!

If this is the case, then you are right.

The thing is, entitlement reform, medicare, medicade, assistance programs, defense spending, social security, is all going to have to be addressed in a real way sooner or later (I hope sooner). When that debate comes, it will be extremely counter productive for proponents of more entitlement via more money expenditures keep calling those who wish to reform the programs racists. That's all Im saying.

As for the facebookers...there is little help for those people.

 

[Xcellere]

White people, you're embarrassing the shit out of me. For my fellow white folk referenced in this thread: Get some logical talking points, act maturely and intelligently, stop the flagrant racism, and maybe you'll have a shot at winning the next race. Until then, enjoy wallowing in your bitter misery for the next four years.

/pipe dream

 

[Tex117]

Texas has Austin. It can't be THAT crazy as long as a wonderful city like that exists.

And Dallas, and Houston which all voted more democrat.

That said, you are more than welcome to come on down to Brownsville, Del Rio, etc....they went very blue and I assure you, the area is insane. (In a unique way IMO).

 

[levious]

No, that was me. Sorry you don't like my sense of humor, but this isn't the place for passive aggressive bitching about it, is it?

only passive agressive bitching about some imaginary double standard on this forum?

 

[lednerg]

Or to anybody qualifying for handouts.

I said 'most of the time'. If you think that's too much, then: An awful lot of the time, 'hand outs' is code for 'black people'. Of all the things to be tit-for-tat about.

 

[Valjean Lafitte]

only passive agressive bitching about some imaginary double standard on this forum?

?

 

[ronito]

Ready for some mormon tears/paranoia?

In the end, more than freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all – security, comfort, and freedom. When the Athenians finally wanted not to give to society but for society to give to them, when the freedom they wished for most was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free and was never free again."
– Edward Gibbon
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I really like this quote. I feel it ties in well to now. We shall see the last days defined in the next 4 years
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Subject: A post-election epiphany: The real winner in campaign 2012

Like many of you, I've been very upset today with the outcome of the election. This article is what I needed to help me get things back in proper prospective. I hope it will do the same for you.

Words of wisdom by Ed Lauritsen & Hugh W Nibley

It is Election Night 2012, and I'm sitting here at my computer listening to Governor Romney's
concession speech, trying to come to grips with his defeat---our defeat. And into my mind comes
three interesting thoughts. The first comes with a scripture:

"Behold, I will hasten my work in its time." (D&C 88:73).

If the Lord's "work" is to "bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man" (Moses 1:39),
and if that process begins by hearing about the Church and seeing its members, then the sooner and
the faster the greatest number of people can see and hear about the Latter-day Saints---especially about
exemplary Saints like the Romneys---the more the work is hastened. And though the Church has 55,000+
missionaries who are quietly and patiently roaming the world knocking on doors, the Lord has brought the
LDS Governor and his LDS family into the very homes of millions of people around the U.S. and the world
via TV, radio, and Internet for more than a year now---people who might never have received or accepted the
missionaries or LDS neighbors, let alone have learned about the LDS way of life. But now they have listened,
watched, and learned, and many of them will likely be more curious and receptive to the missionaries in the
future. And that also goes for many of the Evangelicals, Protestants, and Catholics who locked arms with the
Latter-Day Saints (thanks to Glenn Beck) during this long presidential campaign. Bottom line: the Romneys
lost a hard-fought political battle, but they---and the Church---won a decisive, long-awaited cultural and
spiritual victory in opening the minds and hearts of millions.

Another post-election thought: "Be careful what you pray for."

Had Romney won, it is highly doubtful that he and his team would have been able to rescue the nation's
wounded economy from the purposeful destruction that Obama has intentionally inflicted upon it, Obama
having done so in order to "fundamentally transform" our free enterprise system into a Socialist state. Had
Romney won, the only possible way to have saved the nation and its economy would have been to make
deep cuts in the welfare and entitlement programs---cuts that would have been branded "murderous,
discriminatory and racist" at every turn by the Liberal mainstream media. And the ever-increasing drumbeat
of these accusations over the next four years would have given license to thousands---perhaps millions---
of malcontents to take to the streets in "civil unrest" (aka anarchy). As such, Romney's never-ending vilification
in print and in the electronic media would have soon painted him---and his fellow Mormons---as the enemies
of America, with all the resulting antagonism, stress, and persecution of the Church, both at home and abroad.
As is, over the next four years, right-wing zealots---not Christian Conservatives--- will likely become increasingly
resistant, confrontational, and possibly violent in response to the creeping Socialism. Thus, "social unrest" may
begin at the other end of the political spectrum, likely precipitating equally violent responses from the pro-Socialist
masses.

And this foregoing scenario brings me to the third and final thought tonight, one which also was accompanied by the
written word, this time in the form of a powerful metaphor by Hugh Nibley. I close with it:

“On the last night of a play, the whole cast and stage crew stay in the theater until the small, or not so small, hours of
the morning striking the old set. If there is to be a new opening soon, as the economy of the theater requires, it is
important that the new set should be in place and ready for the opening night; all the while the old set was finishing
its usefulness and then being taken down, the new set was rising in splendor to be ready for the drama that would
immediately follow. So it is with this world. It is not our business to tear down the old set---the agencies that do that
are already hard at work and very efficient---the set is coming down all around us with spectacular effect. Our business
is to see to it that the new set is well on the way for what is to come---and that means a different kind of politics, beyond
the scope of the tragedy that is now playing its closing night. We are preparing for the establishment of Zion.”

Nibley, Hugh. Nibley on the Timely and the Timeless: Classic Essays of Hugh W. Nibley, Provo, Utah: Brigham Young
University Religious Studies Center, 1978, p. 302

 

[thetrin]

And Dallas, and Houston which all voted more democrat.

That said, you are more than welcome to come on down to Brownsville, Del Rio, etc....they went very blue and I assure you, the area is insane. (In a unique way IMO).

Oh, I have nothing against the rest of Texas. I'm just saying that Austin is awesome.

Ready for some mormon tears/paranoia?

Man, how long are conservative idiots going to beat that "bootstraps" gong? Do they not realize all the entitlements they were afforded?

 

[APF]

And no APF, 2004 wasn't similar to this election at all.

These tears are far more amazing and surreal than anything I've seen before.

Similar? Absolutely. Equivalent? No.

 

[Korey]

Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election

 

[OriginofHysteria]

Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election

Loving that random tweet in Mexico

 

[Jzero]

Loving that random tweet in Mexico

I hadn't even noticed it :lol

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election

West Coast confirmed for less racist than East Coast?

Spoiler

It's probably because the West Coast has a lower population.

 

[Klocker]

that crazy bullshit that this is all about entitlement is a looney toons rationalization instead of looking inward for theitr own mistakes

sad, wrong, shallow, simple minded fools.

Is there a percentage that may think that way? sure, maybe a point or two, but the vast majority who voted for Obama just want the middle class to all have a fair shot and for people not to have to go bankrupt just because they randomly got cancer

assholes

 

[Sirpopopop]

Similar? Absolutely. Equivalent? No.

Sure, I'll sign onto this.

 

[heliosRAzi]

It may shock many of you to know that Texas is actually not insane.

Not that insane

 

[commedieu]

damn cali.

 

[Xcellere]

Deleted link to private forum ;(

 

[cousins]

cool well some people don't want official policy especially concerning possible nuclear war to be based on 4000 year old disputes between nomads killing each other because they were told to by sky ghosts

Haha, damn, you didn't need to go that in

 

[SKINNER!]

Ha, agreed here.

I want to protect Isreal because they are the only democracy over there, they have nuclear weapons, and one of our only allies over there.

Firstly, they aren't the only democracy in that region anymore. Dictators are slowly being phased out. Tunisia, Egypt, Libya all had elections after the Arab Spring. The Palestinians had a fair election waay back in 2005 too and chose Hamas if I recall correctly. The US had no problems dealing with the above countries when they weren't democratic (Except Palestine/Hamas of course). Also, while Turkey isn't technically part of the Middle East, it plays an influential role there and the last time I checked...they were a democracy.

Secondly, The only allies in that region? Come on, if that's the case then why are there US bases in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE and Iraq? Aren't they allies too?

Edit: Forgot to add in the part about nuclear weapons. They haven't admitted to owning them so, officially speaking, I guess it means they don't have nukes even though they do because we all know they do.

 

[heliosRAzi]

I sponsor ferrarichat.com, and the meltdowns there are particularly delightful:

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=64

Yay for private forums

 

[cousins]

West Coast confirmed for less racist than East Coast?

Spoiler

It's probably because the West Coast has a lower population.

Left coast and northeast are the same on there. Southeast ain't the east coast, it's the south.

 

[Xcellere]

Yay for private forums

Shit, didn't realize it was private.

 

[Oppo]

It's shit like that (map above) that makes me think, damn, Obama should just cut those fuckers off in Alabama and Mississippi. They already drag in more money on social assistance than anyone else.

What are they gonna do? Call him names? Say he's ruining the country? Oh dear

 

[Revolver]

Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election

So Idaho, Montana, South Dakota and Wyoming don't have the internet. Looks like one guy in North Dakota has it though. Judging by the darker shade of green he must have been real busy.

 

[Spinluck]

You are cruel in not sharing it with us. Press that print screen key, bro!

/irony

 

[Xcellere]

Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election

Oh South, you so crazy. PS Please secede at your earliest convenience.

 

[Steelrain]

It's shit like that (map above) that makes me think, damn, Obama should just cut those fuckers off in Alabama and Mississippi. They already drag in more money on social assistance than anyone else.

What are they gonna do? Call him names? Say he's ruining the country? Oh dear

Eh, according to that map he should cut off the east coast completely.

 

[Tex117]

I said 'most of the time'. If you think that's too much, then: An awful lot of the time, 'hand outs' is code for 'black people'. Of all the things to be tit-for-tat about.

Relax, I just thought the cantation was funny.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election

Wow a racist tweet here in Buffalo and neighboring Rochester. That's frightening...

 

[Xcellere]

Eh, according to that map he should cut off the east coast completely.

But the color of the Northeast states is beige, which I'd assume means lower frequency of racist tweets.

 

[Jzero]

Do the dots only mean one tweet?

 

[Count Dookkake]

Okies don't tweet.

 

[Rebel Leader]

EDIT: NVM

 

[Steelrain]

But the color of the Northeast states is beige, which I'd assume means lower frequency of racist tweets.

Power outages are saving them from themselves.