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SquiddyBiscuit said:
I'm looking for the name of this superhero comics, which kinda portrayed them as egoistical dickwads with their own personal problems. I remember seeing some a page or two, with a guy proposing to his girlfriend - only to have her be torn to shreds as a super hero and super villain come flying through.
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This bring back some memories, but yeah it's The Boys by Garth Ennis.
 
CaptYamato said:
But remember guys Spike promised us that Marvel knew what they were doing.


:P
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Marvel does know what they're doing.

Maximizing profits and extracting money from a shrinking (in terms of actual comic sales) fanbase.

Avengers, like Thor, is not any better upon a second viewing. :\

Excess defines it. Not the good sort of excess that is a sack of sliders from White Castle. The bad sort of excess, like those morons that put too much frosting on cupcakes.

It also puts a fine point on one of the worst aspects of contemporary fiction, audiences love of the noble sacrifice. Have your cake and eat it too! Lap up this false drama because your heroes won't be harmed in any way, shape, or form. We can't even capitalize on potential drama by delayed satisfaction until the inevitable sequel.

Really, who - over the age of 7 - falls for this?

I'm so glad Predator was not made in this era. It would be so shitty now.

I'll pop Cap in tomorrow and hope I wasn't drunk when I saw it and enjoyed the dickens out of it in the theater.

Although I may cleanse my palate tonight with a viewing of Speed Racer for the Nth time. Which is far superior film making and has so much more heart and integrity than Avengers.
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
Marvel does know what they're doing.

Maximizing profits and extracting money from a shrinking (in terms of actual comic sales) fanbase.

Avengers, like Thor, is not any better upon a second viewing. :\

Excess defines it. Not the good sort of excess that is a sack of sliders from White Castle. The bad sort of excess, like those morons that put too much frosting on cupcakes.

It also puts a fine point on one of the worst aspects of contemporary fiction, audiences love of the noble sacrifice. Have your cake and eat it too! Lap up this false drama because your heroes won't be harmed in any way, shape, or form. We can't even capitalize on potential drama by delayed satisfaction until the inevitable sequel.

Really, who - over the age of 7 - falls for this?

I'm so glad Predator was not made in this era. It would be so shitty now.

I'll pop Cap in tomorrow and hope I wasn't drunk when I saw it and enjoyed the dickens out of it in the theater.

Although I may cleanse my palate tonight with a viewing of Speed Racer for the Nth time. Which is far superior film making and has so much more heart and integrity than Avengers.
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*Watches Predator*
*Watches Alien*

*Watches Alien vs Predator*

*cries*
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
Marvel does know what they're doing.

Maximizing profits and extracting money from a shrinking (in terms of actual comic sales) fanbase.

Avengers, like Thor, is not any better upon a second viewing. :\

Excess defines it. Not the good sort of excess that is a sack of sliders from White Castle. The bad sort of excess, like those morons that put too much frosting on cupcakes.

It also puts a fine point on one of the worst aspects of contemporary fiction, audiences love of the noble sacrifice. Have your cake and eat it too! Lap up this false drama because your heroes won't be harmed in any way, shape, or form. We can't even capitalize on potential drama by delayed satisfaction until the inevitable sequel.

Really, who - over the age of 7 - falls for this?

I'm so glad Predator was not made in this era. It would be so shitty now.

I'll pop Cap in tomorrow and hope I wasn't drunk when I saw it and enjoyed the dickens out of it in the theater.

Although I may cleanse my palate tonight with a viewing of Speed Racer for the Nth time. Which is far superior film making and has so much more heart and integrity than Avengers.
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This is an awfully long winded way of saying "I didn't like Avengers." I mean, other than that, you're not saying much. I mean, it's not as if Arnie died in Predator any more than Stark did in the later. The hero not dying is pretty ubiquitous in action flicks. The sequelization in that genre has always been the same. Die Hard is on it's umpteenth version. Alien is still going.
 
WanderingWind said:
This is an awfully long winded way of saying "I didn't like Avengers." I mean, other than that, you're not saying much. I mean, it's not as if Arnie died in Predator any more than Stark did in the later. The hero not dying is pretty ubiquitous in action flicks. The sequelization in that genre has always been the same. Die Hard is on it's umpteenth version. Alien is still going.
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it's ttob - the punch line / giveaway was the "speed racer" bit
 
Angelus Errare said:
Man I don't think I can get with Ultimate Spiderman, the universe is just so weird. US is at civil war, Captain America is president...wha?
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It's a great series man despite some questionable happenings.

USM spoilers:
Carnage is Gwen Stacey but then not because she's back to normal? lolwut

The Spider-Men tpb comes out this week, I think I'll jump on that.
 
Angelus Errare said:
Man I don't think I can get with Ultimate Spiderman, the universe is just so weird. US is at civil war, Captain America is president...wha?
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Read Hickmans first 12 ultimates issues.

Also spider-men is pretty good and gave me hope that BENDIS could pull all new xmen off.


By yea ultimate universe went if the rails a bit.
 
I started reading Hickman's Fantastic Four and FF run and I'm really enjoying it so far. Any other great Fantastic Four arcs you guys would recommend?
 
Acid08 said:
It's a great series man despite some questionable happenings.

USM spoilers:
Carnage is Gwen Stacey but then not because she's back to normal? lolwut



The Spider-Men tpb comes out this week, I think I'll jump on that.
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Meh, saw the spoiler when I quoted you :( when does this happen?
slightconfuse said:
Read Hickmans first 12 ultimates issues.

Also spider-men is pretty good and gave me hope that BENDIS could pull all new xmen off.


By yea ultimate universe went if the rails a bit.
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Oh yea I like Miles as a character and as Spiderman, this universe is just off it's rocker a little is all.
 
Angelus Errare said:
Man I don't think I can get with Ultimate Spiderman, the universe is just so weird. US is at civil war, Captain America is president...wha?
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Haha all the things you are scratching your head over are why I like Ultimate. USM is actually massively mundane compared to the shit going on in Ultimates and Ultimate X-Men. You can tell they've been trying to pull Miles into the rest of that nonsense but it mostly boils down to Ultimates cameos in USM. He has yet to get seriously involved in the rest of the turmoil going on in the rest of the line. You can definitely read just USM and not worry about the rest of that stuff, but I still recommend it. It's incredibly dumb and super fun most of the time.

You simply can't get wackadoo shit like this in 616:

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LiQuid! said:
Haha all the things you are scratching your head over are why I like Ultimate. USM is actually massively mundane compared to the shit going on in Ultimates and Ultimate X-Men. You can tell they've been trying to pull Miles into the rest of that nonsense but it mostly boils down to Ultimates cameos in USM. He has yet to get seriously involved in the rest of the turmoil going on in the rest of the line. You can definitely read just USM and not worry about the rest of that stuff, but I still recommend it. It's incredibly dumb and super fun most of the time.

You simply can't get wackadoo shit like this in 616:
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that picture makes me want a side scrolling shooter game like Einhander or R-type staring Cap and...What is that an army of War machine?

Also, is there an Ultimate Ghost Rider? What are they like?
 
Kizer said:
that picture makes me want a side scrolling shooter game like Einhander or R-type staring Cap and...What is that an army of War machine?

Also, is there an Ultimate Ghost Rider? What are they like?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Rider_(comics)#Ultimate_Marvel

Haven't seen him in any of the books I read but I only read the first 80 or so USM's, the first 60 or so UXM's and then I started up again with the death of Peter Parker. I've read it all since then and no version of GR has showed up yet.

It's kinda confusing not knowing who is all dead in the Ultimate U now having not read all the past shit, I just know that there are almost no original X-Men around. Also Reed Richards is a mondo bad guy now. It's confusing but totally silly.
 
LiQuid! said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Rider_(comics)#Ultimate_Marvel

Haven't seen him in any of the books I read but I only read the first 80 or so USM's, the first 60 or so UXM's and then I started up again with the death of Peter Parker. I've read it all since then and no version of GR has showed up yet.

It's kinda confusing not knowing who is all dead in the Ultimate U now having not read all the past shit, I just know that there are almost no original X-Men around. Also Reed Richards is a mondo bad guy now. It's confusing but totally silly.
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I suppose that story arc he is in isn't the weirdest thing I have heard about the ultimate universe so far. Which is rather ironic considering the character.
 
Anticitizen One said:
They completly ruined the Ultimate Universe. It was cool when it was a modern realistic take of the Marvel Universe set in a post-9/11 world.
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Washington DC no longer exists. It has been nuked off the map. They haven't ruined the Ultimate Universe, they are making it INSANE. Instead of just retreading old stories in a modern setting they are telling an actual alternate universe story now. They are no longer beholden to trying to keep the Ultimate version of Earth like actual Earth and the books are finally getting good because of it.
 
Ultimate Miles sucks. It's been 17 issues and the kid is still a total noob with no defining characteristics. The book is coasting on the Spidey name, and the support cast is very unlikable. I miss Peter Parker back when his supporting cast was Kitty, Iceman, Human Torch, Gwen Stacy and MJ. So good.
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
He was kind of interesting despite the Millar handicap.

At this point GR fans need to just enjoy the classic stories and the brief period in the 90's w/ Danny Ketch. :\
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ya know, Ghost Rider's Fear Itself thing tricked me. It really did. It wasn't bad per say, but it wasn't what I wanted. Well, I still have Daniel Way's run. I enjoyed that...
 
Supermanisdead said:
Ultimate Miles sucks. It's been 17 issues and the kid is still a total noob with no defining characteristics. The book is coasting on the Spidey name, and the support cast is very unlikable. I miss Peter Parker back when his supporting cast was Kitty, Iceman, Human Torch, Gwen Stacy and MJ. So good.
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I'm glad someone else see it this way, Miles Morales is terrible.

I miss Ultimate Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends.

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Kizer said:
ya know, Ghost Rider's Fear Itself thing tricked me. It really did. It wasn't bad per say, but it wasn't what I wanted. Well, I still have Daniel Way's run. I enjoyed that...
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If you liked Daniel Way's Run you should also check out Jason Aaron's run that starts after Way.
 
Supergirl's tradition of turning people to stone continues!

Enjoyed the "solution" to Grundy in Earth 2.
Sad Grundy on Moon staring at Earth

Action Comics was sort of WTF? But kind of awesome at the same time?

Green Lantern continues to be good. I'm liking Baz more and more as I get to know him.
 
BuddyJoeHooker said:
I'm glad someone else see it this way, Miles Morales is terrible.

I miss Ultimate Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends.

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If you liked Daniel Way's Run you should also check out Jason Aaron's run that starts after Way.
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make that three.

the Ultimate Universe went off the rails with Ultimatum for me and Death of Spider-man was the final nail in the coffin. Now it's just the universe populated by unlikable blowhards.
 
LiQuid! said:
Washington DC no longer exists. It has been nuked off the map. They haven't ruined the Ultimate Universe, they are making it INSANE. Instead of just retreading old stories in a modern setting they are telling an actual alternate universe story now. They are no longer beholden to trying to keep the Ultimate version of Earth like actual Earth and the books are finally getting good because of it.
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The books were fine and actually marvels best selling titles before fucking ultimatum and all that horseshit
 
Supermanisdead said:
Ultimate Miles sucks. It's been 17 issues and the kid is still a total noob with no defining characteristics. The book is coasting on the Spidey name, and the support cast is very unlikable. I miss Peter Parker back when his supporting cast was Kitty, Iceman, Human Torch, Gwen Stacy and MJ. So good.
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That had the potential to be fun.
 
So much Ultimate hate out of nowhere. You guys aren't gonna bring me down. All three of those books have been pretty consistently great. Bendis writes a good, young Spidey, even if he's kind of going through motions with a new character. Takes time to develop a brand new character and Bendis is still doing good work just like he did with the early Peter Parker USM. Hickman introduced some good set up with Ultimates and though I didn't like Nick Spencer's slow paced start to Ultimate X-Men, Brian Wood picked up the torch and ran with it. After this big crossover is done with these books are going to have some rad groundwork to be a big crazy ass playground for these characters and I'm looking forward to seeing where they go.

I do agree Miles needs more supporting characters. His parents are bland. Ganke is cool but he definitely needs some chicks in his life. The Peter/Kitty stuff from early USM is gonna be impossible to live up to.
 
LiQuid! said:
So much Ultimate hate out of nowhere. You guys aren't gonna bring me down. All three of those books have been pretty consistently great. Bendis writes a good, young Spidey, even if he's kind of going through motions with a new character. Takes time to develop a brand new character and Bendis is still doing good work just like he did with the early Peter Parker USM. Hickman introduced some good set up with Ultimates and though I didn't like Nick Spencer's slow paced start to Ultimate X-Men, Brian Wood picked up the torch and ran with it. After this big crossover is done with these books are going to have some rad groundwork to be a big crazy ass playground for these characters and I'm looking forward to seeing where they go.

I do agree Miles needs more supporting characters. His parents are bland. Ganke is cool but he definitely needs some chicks in his life. The Peter/Kitty stuff from early USM is gonna be impossible to live up to.
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Out of nowhere? I've been hating on the ultimate universe before it was cool. My main book was ult 4, and the wheels fell the fuck off of that car pretty quickly. Didn't like ultimates, didn't like ult x, enjoyed the clone saga and after of ult spidey. Even so, ultimatum was beyond fucked up for that line.
 
Dudes, you guys, is this New 52 Shazam/Billy Batson getting spun out into its own book? If so who is the creative team on it? Cause man it has been my favorite part of the Justice League books and I just read JL#0 and I totally love it.

I haven't been keeping up with DC stuff aside from everybody nutting over Vibe. What's the Trinity War stuff all about? Who is the trinity? You can just provide a link, I really suck and digging up comic news.
 
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