Devolution
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An unarmed black teen getting killed and then claims of being intimidated despite being on a sidewalk (and being the follower!) or outside a convenience store. Wonder what else it could be. Durp.
G-A-F? Gun Collector kills teen over loud music outside convenience store
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An unarmed black teen getting killed and then claims of being intimidated despite being on a sidewalk (and being the follower!) or outside a convenience store. Wonder what else it could be. Durp.
Are you kidding? Being called a racist is the worst thing in the world. It's even worse than being an actual racist.
Okay so only 18% were black? Don't you see the problem with that? I have seen a lot more blacks attack out of race, and I live in texas...
I have never heard "there are some black people lets get them!"
I have heard "there is a white guy, get him!"x5 (neither of these said exactly like that)
Devolution
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Of course here comes the anecdotal evidence.
SnakeswithLasers
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A) Racism is not interchangeable for 'hate crime'.
B) In a situation like this where a white person 'feels threatened' to the point of needing to use deadly force by the presence of black youth, I'm sure as shit telling you it's racism--and I'm right.
Unfortunately "you" aren't the arbiter of aggregated statistical information with relation to crime rates in the US.
Well what you see on the streets day to day, doesn't make headlines. Please judge for yourself. I just think hate crime is always pinned on white on black. Not even white on hispanic, or white on asian. strictly white on black. It is all you hear
Devolution
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Yeah I'm sure you see it every day despite the statistics.
I didn't actually read the story, those can be slanted a lot of ways. My point isn't even in this case, just scrolling down and seeing all of the racism messages.
Just like when I scroll down in a news story and see 100 posts saying "please dont be black"
this is my "please dont be white on black"
Just like when I scroll down in a news story and see 100 posts saying "please dont be black"
this is my "please dont be white on black"
It does. But that's not really the point of the story. Point of the story is South-Florida man shoots North-Florida teen.
So everyone going "stay the hell out of North Florida" is missing the point of that.
Devolution
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Oh you don't say.
I read it, and basically besides the color of his skin all they have is he was playing rap music. The rest is what the writer put together, there is really no telling if this is a hate crime, but it is already deemed so. That is why the numbers are so high Devolution. If a black kills a white you never hear "He was jamming classic rock, with an antiobama sticker. a most obvious hate crime"
Satellite Beach is not part of South Florida.
Maybe I am just naive, and think race as having very little to do with things, and how a crime might unfold. Those things will NEVER be put to rest when the media pumps up racist killings.
as for anecdotal evidence, you can search youtube and see racist fights/jumpings starting. Most of those videos have a non black as the victim, when the suspects are caught WITH video evidence there is no hate crime filed against them, but 1 white guy killing will make the news to stir shit up
as for anecdotal evidence, you can search youtube and see racist fights/jumpings starting. Most of those videos have a non black as the victim, when the suspects are caught WITH video evidence there is no hate crime filed against them, but 1 white guy killing will make the news to stir shit up
SnakeswithLasers
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Nobody said it was a hate crime. They said he was racist. Which he is.
Here, please understand this: If you are a white person and feel that your life is in danger just because a black kid is listening to rap music too loud at the Arby's, and then you choose to open fire into their automobile, you are racist. You are acting as though black people are more dangerous and prone to violent, life threatening outbursts to such a degree that fleeing the scene isn't even an option.
You aren't naive, you're backpedaling. Reverse racism. SMH.
You're right, I got my counties confused. It's Central. Nearly the same thing. It isn't a North-Florida on North-Florida thing. It's more Central-Florida on North-Florida. Just like the Treyvon Martin case was a Central-Florida on Central-Florida case.
Devolution
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The irony is he's the one using the gun to blow people away but those black people, so scary.
maybe he was really digging the rap lyrics that might of been playing. not racist... embracing!
freenudemacusers
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I still can't get the "tragedy" on both sides... what tragedy is it for the shooter?!
Devolution
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He's such a nice guy.
well we've all seen older white men trying to stay hip. maybe he didn't know..
no I think hes insane, he might be racist. He should not be charged for any kind of hate crime because the kid was black however
Bay Maximus
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This should be an open and shut case. That said, let's hear the theories of how the big, scary black kid scared the bejeevus out of the poor white man and forced the white guy to shoot him. Eight times. Reluctantly, of course. Tragedy on both sides and all that
So are you saying that not enough noise is being made by interracial fights? Or are you saying that too much noise is being made by the racist executions of young blacks?
So are you saying that not enough noise is being made by interracial fights? Or are you saying that too much noise is being made by the racist executions of young blacks?
HP_Wuvcraft
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Arrested for killing one of one of the loud rapping playing negros?
That he had to pull the trigger and live with the guilt of killing that black youth.
But it's not like he had a choice. He felt threatened! And it wasn't like he was in a car and could have just drove away or anything!
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HP_Wuvcraft
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Oh lord, haven't watched the news in awhile and GAF updates me about my own town. Geez, I think I know that Gate station to. Southside area is considered the "upscale" portion of Jacksonville, you know, waspy subdivisions and expensive-ass condos and apartments. It's not the area you would be in fear of anyone around there.
edit: Yup thought I knew that gas station. The Winn Dixie is right across the street, kid was probably getting off work. That Gate Station is right in front of one of the rich subdivisions to. Very busy corner there all times of day and night in plain view.
edit: Yup thought I knew that gas station. The Winn Dixie is right across the street, kid was probably getting off work. That Gate Station is right in front of one of the rich subdivisions to. Very busy corner there all times of day and night in plain view.
I am saying it is only called racist when it is white on black, when there is racism equally on both sides
SnakeswithLasers
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Your best bet is to stop posting in the thread, maybe Bish will miss it. Playing it off as a joke can only get you so far.
Devolution
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It's never been equal. Do you read history?
I'm not sure you understand what "equally" means.
SnakeswithLasers
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You seriously ought to educate yourself on both the definition and theory of racism, and the history of racism in the United States.
Yep
Gun owners don't seem to get that they're the scary ones.
The vast majority of gun owners are normal, law abiding citizens. Why don't we just call irrational/unhinged people scary instead?
The quick and dirty: white on black "racism" boils down to feeling black folk are inferior or inherently dangerous, unthinking creatures, and that shooting one at the slightest provocation is a good move.
Black on white "racism" is more in the vein of disapproval of how powerful, condescending, and non-inclusive a lot of white folk happen to be. This brand of racism is disrespecting that power.
This is aside from the system being weighted against non-whites, institutionalized racism, etc.
That part was only a joke though. I still believe all sides can be racist in crimes, but only one type makes the headlines. Ban me for that if you want, but that is all you will see as far as racist crimes in the news. I just think that should be fixed
HP_Wuvcraft
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You're operating under the assumption that anytime a black person kills a white person, or vice versa, it is for racist intent.
What's more, the only reason you're doing so is to be right.
Devolution
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I'm sure a lot of white teens are victims of racial profiling and extreme paranoia that leads to their deaths. Why aren't these kids on the news, I feel your pain.
I know the history, and I think I understand the theory. I am talking about today, and hopefully the future. To stamp out these sort of things you don't start race wars through media as they will try and do, I think
Devolution
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Racism today is still a product of the past, it's completely relevant.
No I am not, I am trying to say the opposite. Everytime a white person kills a black person it is not racist. It is percentages of what race the victim will be
HP_Wuvcraft
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Xenon
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The two were arguing, it wasn't just the fact that he was there. Unless you know what was said you're just making shit up. People of all races have killed others for less.
One possibility is that the man shot the kid out of anger and said he felt threatened to cover his ass.
This story you conjured up doesn't make sense because if the man felt so threatened he wouldn't have walked up to the car in the first place.
if you want to beat a dead horse another 100 years, lets keep shitty parts of our past relevant, and in your face with headlines
Devolution
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Yeah let's just educate people about rainbows and sunshine. That's how you deal with the ugly side of history.
Bay Maximus
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So you feel the media is giving whites a bad rap? What an odd claim. In any case, you seem to agree that this is a hate crime and I imagine you want to see justice done.
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But this just happened, and is a ripple effect of our past. I don't like it either, but we can't run from the facts here BPRD.
This is present racism, breh. That shit is still here.
The news media isn't going to report about black people committing crimes against white people, because the majority of black on white crime is based on economics, and its usually robbery or muggings. In other words, blacks (and Hispanics) as a whole are poorer than white people. A white kid getting mugged by a black kid isn't going to make the nightly news because its not sensational enough. An old black guy opening fire on a car full of white kids on the other hand....
Let's also not forget the case of that mother who said her kids were kidnapped by a black guy, or that guy out of Massachusetts who said a black guy killed his pregnant wife. Those got national headlines until they were proven to be false.
Treyvon Martin became sensationalized because the police refused to arrest a man who killed a teenager walking home with a pack of skittles and tea. Hence the national headlines.
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