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[slightconfuse]

Yea uncanny avengers is seems pretty sluggish from the start. the delays dont help plus the team should be together aleady.

Hickman's run is going to blow it out of the water

 

[Father_Brain]

Sales across the board are way shitty compared to actual retailer orders, and those two particular clods were pointing out that Marvel's not offering reorders. Now, Higgins is an unabashed DC fanboy (even though runs a comic book store which by its nature ought to appeal to readers of anything) and Larry's Comics is a racist, misogynist, homophobe; so, you know, grains of salt. But on the retailer level it doesn't appear to be having anything near the impact that the New 52 had.

Really not that surprising. Playing musical chairs with creators over the course of six months may produce better books, but it just doesn't allow for any elevator pitch as simple or compelling as: "Get on board with a #1 issue in September for the start of a new DC Universe!"

 

[Supermanisdead]

Anyways, today's reviews:

All New X-Men #2 - Cute, but it was a bit too jokey.

Spoiler

Jean Grey was beyond annoying, too. But I like where it's going. I'm surprised that they are going to do the confrontation so soon. I expected Bendis to spend more time doing "adjusting to the future" stuff.

A+X #2 - Really great. Rogue and Black Widow (written and drawn by Bachalo!) It was a light, funny story. Kitty Pryde and Iron Man was also pretty good. I like that someone finally acknowledged that Kitty is a genius.

Uncanny Avengers #2 - No...

X-Treme X-Men #7 - Looks like it's the actual SAGE! I hope she joins the team. Art was a highlight.

Gambit #6 - Where is Clay Mann?????

X-Men Legacy #2 - Chamber is back, babyyy. Legion being written as a Scottish person for the first time ever.

Ultimate X-Men #19 - Out of the seemingly endless war arc and we get some cool set ups for the future. Nice to see all the new Ultimate versions of mutants.

 

[Vermillion]

Gambit #6: Unlike Captain Marvel, Gambit has been a consistently good to great book. James Asmus is doing a fantastic job. I implore you all to check it out.

 

[FoneBone]

Really not that surprising. Playing musical chairs with creators over the course of six months may produce better books, but it just doesn't allow for any elevator pitch as simple or compelling as: "Get on board with a #1 issue in September for the start of a new DC Universe!"

Right. The books themselves are looking quite good, but as a sales pitch, it's just not coherent.

 

[frye]

Right. The books themselves are looking quite good, but as a sales pitch, it's just not coherent.

Yeah, part of the success of the New 52 came from doing it all at once, even when it was detrimental to the books (Snyder/Jock/Francavilla on 'Tec was rushed as fuck, no matter what Snyder says). Marvel seems to be letting their dudes finish at their own pace, which is pretty great, but it spreads the launch over 5/6 months and is confusing.

 

[Mafro]

For a 3.99 book written by Remender, it is beyond garbage.

Ok.

 

[JJD]

It really isn't "garbage" though, is it?

Just read it and I liked it.

Remender didn't pull a home run on the first issue like he did with Uncanny X-Force (the other good thing Wolverine was involved in the last decade I forgot to mention!) but it was a nice issue.

The second one is even better IMO.

That Red Skull line about Wanda being a jew, a gipsy and a mutant was hilariously sad. Racist villains are the worst. There's not a single damn redeeming quality about then, unlike villains like Magneto who can be likable despite being occasionally evil.

One thing that annoys me is how Havok is the team leader except Cap is still calling the shots. Dude has been on the background of every single promo material and cover until now. If he is really going to be the leader take him to the foreground of the team Remender.

Alex can lead, he has a lot of experience. Just don't make him a second generation Cyclops douchebag. Alex was always the rebellious brother, now that Scott is rebelling too don't make Havok the uptight one.

And finally to keep up with my Wolverine complains, Logan would never question him being the leader. At least not to anyone that has read Havok and Wolverine: Meltdown. That mini was great! Dudes are bros for life! Lol!

Wolverine was mostly a joke character in Bendis' Avengers, but Spider-man got a lot of usage throughout. Not sure why people still target Spider-man as being there just for covers/sales when he has been used in the Avengers more than Thor and Steve Rogers this past decade.

It's not that I don't believe that Wolverine and specially Spiderman don't belong on the Avengers. It's just that Bendis could have done much more with then.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

And finally to keep up with my Wolverine complains, Logan would never question him being the leader. At least not to anyone that has read Havok and Wolverine: Meltdown. That mini was great! Dudes are bros for life! Lol!

BEST EVER
YES

 

[JJD]

BEST EVER
YES

Haha! I always though Alex got close to Logan just to piss off Scott! Lol!

 

[Mafro]

That Red Skull line about Wanda being a jew, a gipsy and a mutant was hilariously sad. Racist villains are the worst. There's not a single damn redeeming quality about then, unlike villains like Magneto who can be likable despite being occasionally evil.

I'm really liking Remender's take on the Red Skull, such an asshole while being classically cheesy at the same time. Loved him in the last panel.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

Sales across the board are way shitty compared to actual retailer orders, and those two particular clods were pointing out that Marvel's not offering reorders. Now, Higgins is an unabashed DC fanboy (even though runs a comic book store which by its nature ought to appeal to readers of anything) and Larry's Comics is a racist, misogynist, homophobe; so, you know, grains of salt. But on the retailer level it doesn't appear to be having anything near the impact that the New 52 had.

Hhmmmmm. I hope DCBSERVICE can keep offering fifty percent off. Still ordering all their shit until its no longer offered.

 

[ReiGun]

Shipping issue meant my LCS didn't get this week's books and won't have them till next week.

At first I was all like "Well, I'm sure nothing I wanted too badly came out this week." Then I remembered Aquaman 14 came out and now I'm like

 

[slightconfuse]

That wolverine one shot aja drew was boss

 

[Pie and Beans]

Pretty sure Jason Aaron is writing the definitive Thor tale. Simply incredible stuff.

All New Word Balloon Crossovers was bareable.

Uncanny Avengers continues to crawl, a man hugs Havok so he is clearly the best. Cap shouldnt be in this book at all, he can't not be Leader, Wolverine as well.

Batman Inc is just total crazy town acceleration all over. The thing is almost too fast to keep up with at times.

 

[Big Icarus]

Cassaday's art is not worth any sort of wait. What is he doing when he draws this garbage. It looks like he just pours a ton of un-needed line detail on top of terrible layouts and high school notebook level anatomy.

I'm completely underwhelmed by UA. Remender writing some of my favorite characters sounded good, but this book just screams that it's being ghost written by a series of editorial mandates. It's awful. Comparatively the Cap America book Remender is doing started out with a bang, and seems really interesting, and I hate that character. It's dissapointing that I'm probably going to continue with that and drop UA.

 

[Supermanisdead]

Pretty sure Jason Aaron is writing the definitive Thor tale. Simply incredible stuff.

All New Word Balloon Crossovers was bareable.

Uncanny Avengers continues to crawl, a man hugs Havok so he is clearly the best. Cap shouldnt be in this book at all, he can't not be Leader, Wolverine as well.

Batman Inc is just total crazy town acceleration all over. The thing is almost too fast to keep up with at times.

Havok u r soOoOo amazing *blush*

 

[krypt0nian]

Cassaday phoning this shit in.

 

[LiQuid!]

If Ryan Higgins and Larry's Comics is any indication (GROSS), they're losing big with Marvel NOW! so I think they're working over time to maintain interest in their flagging line of comic books.

Don't listen to fucking Higgins. Him and everybody that works in his store is such are the biggest pile of DC-tards on the planet.

 

[tim1138]

Aquaman and Wolverine MAX for me today, I'm a sucker for their MAX line.

I can't believe I'm this excited for an Aquaman arc.

That's because Aquaman is consistently awesome.

 

[SpiderJerusalem]

dammit

 

[SpiderJerusalem]

Wow. If you haven't read today's A+X, you really need to! Rogue and Black Widow, Iron Man and Kitty Pryde.

Spoiler

Black Widow kisses Rogue

cool team up if they didn't have Iron Man in it

Anyways, today's reviews:


A+X #2 - Really great. Rogue and Black Widow (written and drawn by Bachalo!) It was a light, funny story. Kitty Pryde and Iron Man was also pretty good. I like that someone finally acknowledged that Kitty is a genius.

ohh, well I'll pick it up for free sometime if I can

 

[kswiston]

I am willing to sacrifice Uncanny Avengers to editorial mandates if it means that Hickman gets to go wild in his books. Avengers and New Avengers are definitely my most anticipated Marvel Now books, and have been since the initiative was announced. I'm really stoked that the preview stuff we have seen so far from Avengers looks as good as I hoped.

 

[LiQuid!]

Cassaday phoning this shit in.

Based on the delay, more like courier pigeoned it in.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Don't listen to fucking Higgins. Him and everybody that works in his store is such are the biggest pile of DC-tards on the planet.

I finally had to unfollow him but I'm glad it's not just me.

 

[LiQuid!]

I finally had to unfollow him but I'm glad it's not just me.

I listen to his podcast and interface with him on his forum since 2009 too (he's on the Geekbox with Video Games' Ryan Scott). He can't bring up anything about DC or Nintendo without turning into an incorrigible fanboy.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Oh, and Marvel needs to stop previewing comics that are more than an issue away. It's ridiculous and stupid and basically says "Hey, the story you're reading is irrelevant because we can still show you this stuff."

Stop, dummies.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Uncanny Avengers #2 - No...

Yeah, that about sums it up.

Dropped.

 

[crimsonspider89]

I enjoyed the Rogue/Wanda aspect and the God complex of Thor but the Logan/Cap/Havok was a bit too much. Will give it the end of the first arc.

 

[JJD]

Pretty sure Jason Aaron is writing the definitive Thor tale. Simply incredible stuff.

That's still too early to tell.

Let's talk about this again in two or three years!

By the way, Walter Simonson said hi! ;-)

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

Oh, and Marvel needs to stop previewing comics that are more than an issue away. It's ridiculous and stupid and basically says "Hey, the story you're reading is irrelevant because we can still show you this stuff."

Stop, dummies.

Thought I was the only one. The interviews last week with second arcs for NoW has been completely outshot in ridiculousness by having issue 7 Avenger pencils.


The Unwritten is such a great book, sad that there is hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

 

[fredrancour]

The Unwritten is such a great book, sad that there is hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

Because I haven't bought volume 6 yet! I hit my reckless spending quota before I realized it was out. Blame the lego thread.
regarding v 5:

Spoiler

That last page. hnnng.Fools are gonna pay.

 

[Pie and Beans]

That's still too early to tell.

Let's talk about this again in two or three years!

By the way, Walter Simonson said hi! ;-)

Well note I just said Thor and not Asguard and everyone else as a whole, which Walter pretty much owns outright!

 

[jon bones]

I am willing to sacrifice Uncanny Avengers to editorial mandates if it means that Hickman gets to go wild in his books. Avengers and New Avengers are definitely my most anticipated Marvel Now books, and have been since the initiative was announced. I'm really stoked that the preview stuff we have seen so far from Avengers looks as good as I hoped.

this is actually the best justification or UA's lameness. remender is like comics jesus.

 

[B-Dubs]

All New X-Men is moving a hell of a lot faster than I though Bendis was capable of, I figured we'd be in some kind of dumb "lets adjust to the future" chapter but nope, old X-Men are ready to do work on the new. Also it looks like being in the future might be speeding up secondary mutations, which will be bad times down the road. I can see the beginnings of the Phoenix returning already, just a matter of time.

 

[slightconfuse]

All New X-Men is moving a hell of a lot faster than I though Bendis was capable of, I figured we'd be in some kind of dumb "lets adjust to the future" chapter but nope, old X-Men are ready to do work on the new. Also it looks like being in the future might be speeding up secondary mutations, which will be bad times down the road. I can see the beginnings of the Phoenix returning already, just a matter of time.

Bendis said issue 6 things pop off. i imagine a crap ton of mutants are born or something.

 

[Sblargh]

Bendis said issue 6 things pop off. i imagine a crap ton of mutants are born or something.

We need to go back at having 15 million mutants.

 

[jon bones]

anyone else read Ff? weird set up, but i'm kinda interested in seeing where it goes.

Oh, and Marvel needs to stop previewing comics that are more than an issue away. It's ridiculous and stupid and basically says "Hey, the story you're reading is irrelevant because we can still show you this stuff."

Stop, dummies.

do what i do - avoid previews... and encourage posters in this thread to spoiler tag/link up any preview info.

 

[Blader]

Bendis said issue 6 things pop off. i imagine a crap ton of mutants are born or something.

Of course it's issue 6.

 

[LiQuid!]

After so many Days of Future Past-esque stories from X-Men and characters from THE FUTURE like Cable and Bishop coming back into what we know as the current timeline, it's cool to see All New X-Men flipping the script and making "our" timeline the one in trouble. The problem I have though, and it's a big one, is that I don't really think shit in the here and now is as dire as Beast does and that makes the whole premise flimsy as fuck. I'm hoping Bendis further fleshes out just exactly why he did this out of character shit.

That said, I think Bendis is pretty much nailing most of the dialog, Immonen's shit has been A+ and the pacing of the book, as said, has been great. I love the book, I just wish it made more sense.

 

[Mafro]

anyone else read Ff? weird set up, but i'm kinda interested in seeing where it goes.

Thought it was really good, Fraction is a great fit for this series. Mike Allred's art was absolutely brilliant as well, I'll need to check out some of the past stuff he's done.

 

[Acid08]

Is Hickman's FF stuff required before Fractions?

 

[LiQuid!]

Is Hickman's FF stuff required before Fractions?

I'm curious about this too but I'm more worried that Fraction's FF stuff is going to spoil Hickman's, which would suck.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

I am surprising myself by NOT hating All-New X-men, Bendis dialog and all. Stuart Immonen artwork helps, but also First Class quickly got over the "oh hey wow everything is so different here" and actually have a plan.

 

[Splatt]

Is Hickman's FF stuff required before Fractions?

No.

 

[BuddyJoeHooker]

New interview with Dan Slott and some new preview art by Humberto Ramos.
*Potential Spoilers*

Dan Slott on giving up an artist.

I want all the toys. [Laughs] They ask me, "Well who do you want to give up? Do you want to give up Camuncoli?" And I say, "Hell no! I love Cammo." They then ask, "Humberto?" And the answer there is still "no." Humberto is joined at my hip. Come at me and try to take Humberto Ramos away from me. I'll cut you. [Laughs] I just got Stegman, but it hurt like Hell to lose Stefano Caselli. I want to keep working with all my artists. I still want to work with Andrea DiVito from "The Thing."

 

[jon bones]

Is Hickman's FF stuff required before Fractions?

Hickman's FF is required reading before EVERYTHING.

Thought it was really good, Fraction is a great fit for this series. Mike Allred's art was absolutely brilliant as well, I'll need to check out some of the past stuff he's done.

Fraction is a good fit, and Allred is rad as always.

I'm hoping to find his X-Statix hardcover omnibus under the xmas tree so I can finally read it.

 

[Mafro]

Is Hickman's FF stuff required before Fractions?

I'm curious about this too but I'm more worried that Fraction's FF stuff is going to spoil Hickman's, which would suck.

I've not read any of Hickman's FF or Fantastic Four stuff and didn't feel like I was missing out on anything big in the issue other than where all the kids came from.

 

[slightconfuse]

THor and Chew were both amazing this week.

until avengers Thor is te stand out of MArvel Now

 

[Father_Brain]

Bendis apparently has a fourth Marvel NOW! book coming: Heroes for Hire, drawn by Mike Deodato.