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The Dark Knight Rises |OT2| The Legend... Continues

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Still right on the fence on whether to get the set now. Feels like it would go for a lightning deal at some point before Christmas + that damn ultimate set looming over my purchase next year.
 
Dark knight trilogy on iTunes in NZ is like $35 for SD. This is about equivalent of about US $18 on the basis of ratio from the single SD version.

Is it worth it? I wanted to get the trilogy on Bly-ray, but it got sold out when a store sold them for 20% off at NZ$56.
 
Dunno why you keep talking about Inception, its not even this centurys best sci-fi flick. The Avengers by a country mile. Potentially the best film of the 21st Century outright, and of the top ten films ever created by an American studio
 
Rad- said:
I'm most likely in the minority with this (or I'm not sure, haven't read this topic that much) but I think Bane was a better villain than Joker in the trilogy. I wanted Batman to kick Bane's ass so bad but I didn't feel that with Joker.
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Bane was definitely a whole lot more threatening and intimidating to me than Joker was. I never felt that Batman was in any danger while fighting Joker. That doesn't necessarily make him a bad villain. I'd say the fact that Joker goes after the people around Batman in attempts to learn Batman's identity, while Bane already knows who Batman really is and is more direct in his approach in dealing with him has a lot to do with it as well.
 
After watching some of the featurettes on the iPad app, Jonah and Goyer better damn well do the commentaries with Chris if he's really doing them for the Ultimate set. Chris likes to hold back on giving away details while Jonah and Goyer have no filter.
 
Tookay said:
I agree that he's very inconsistently portrayed as a character. And you can see that reflected in interview quotes about Bane, where everybody was using different words/phrases to describe him, signaling that there wasn't a unified, singular vision behind it.

They'd call him a "movie monster," "a revolutionary," "a military dictator," "a physical challenge," "a genius," etc. Not to mention, he's also portrayed as a lover/protector, insane devotee to a guy who excommuniated him, and has a poorly ADR'd voice.

You ask the people on the crew or the audience what Joker was all about, and they would probably respond with one word: chaos.
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I don't see the difference, really. TDK detractors would complain that the Joker wasn't a consistent character either: he's an anarchist, he's a mastermind, he has no ideology, he has a specific ideology, he's a punk, he's totally insane, he's totally in control of himself, etc.

I think Bane is a more consistent character actually, but neither one is really all over the place. They both have a core personality that all their disparate traits revolve around, and when their characteristics do contradict each other, there's a reason for it; it's not as if the writers suddenly forgot who their own characters are.
 
DMczaf said:
After watching some of the featurettes on the iPad app, Jonah and Goyer better damn well do the commentaries with Chris if he's really doing them for the Ultimate set. Chris likes to hold back on giving away details while Jonah and Goyer have no filter.
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Goyer loves to exaggerate. The studio wanted Dicaprio for Riddler etc.
 
SJRB said:
That's because he had no idea what the fuck was going on. He goes from brute to torturer to evil genius to circus clown to "the guy from next door with the weird face mask" to wannabe mass murderer. He has like 4 personalities throughout the movie.
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i dunno seemed to have it together during the intro , that definitely was a guy who had a plan and was in control of himself.
 
NotTheGuyYouKill said:
I love all of the Nolan films that I have seen (Memento, Insomnia, Batman Begins, Prestige, The Dark Knight, Inception, The Dark Knight Rises). They all rock. As a result, I am happy.

You all can suffer.
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This is all that needs to be said.

Nolan will never falter.
 
Solo said:
Sorry we can't all live in this magical fantasy land where everything is of equal quality.
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That'd be a nice place, but really I'm more interested in being within shooting distance of a simply interesting conversation. Like I said, ranking leaves so much to the imagination and creates such a crackling debate among communities, it's a wonder to me why it doesn't happen in threads more often.
 
You want to have interesting discourse? Perhaps we should discuss why noted auteur and film historian Christopher Bartholomew Nolan did not catch the grievous error made by the late Mr. Ledger where his cup runneth over?
 
Solo said:
You want to have interesting discourse? Perhaps we should discuss why noted auteur and film historian Christopher Bartholomew Nolan did not catch the grievous error made by the late Mr. Ledger where his cup runneth over?
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Solo said:
You want to have interesting discourse? Perhaps we should discuss why noted auteur and film historian Christopher Bartholomew Nolan did not catch the grievous error made by the late Mr. Ledger where his cup runneth over?
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That's more like it, Mr. Bond.
 
Solo said:
You want to have interesting discourse? Perhaps we should discuss why noted auteur and film historian Christopher Bartholomew Nolan did not catch the grievous error made by the late Mr. Ledger where his cup runneth over?
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Reads like a A.O.Scott review.
 
.GqueB. said:
I just showed this to a friend of mind and we're both just shocked at how every single move in that choreography has something wrong with it. Every single one! How is that even possible?! It's three goddamn seconds wrong.
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Aggrotek said:
Why does the guy on the left fly backwards?
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pnn said:
It's the force.
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Having just rewatched the film this scene seems to be an editing gaff. The fight seems to be composed of two takes, split in editing. In the intercut that follows this gif moments later in the film, the guy that falls off the screen on the left is shot by the kicked gun the "gun-puncher" is attempting to hit batman with.

Seems the editor used two halves of two takes to composite the fight, only the two halves don't actually fit together. Guy falls down where he isn't shot and is then shot when he's narratively already down.
 
Wilbury said:
Dunno why you keep talking about Inception, its not even this centurys best sci-fi flick. The Avengers by a country mile. Potentially the best film of the 21st Century outright, and of the top ten films ever created by an American studio
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The fuck? Avengers isn't even a sci fi flick to begin with, then everything else is wrong about your post.
 
Tunesmith said:
Having just rewatched the film this scene seems to be an editing gaff. The fight seems to be composed of two takes, split in editing. In the intercut that follows this gif moments later in the film, the guy that falls off the screen on the left is shot by the kicked gun the "gun-puncher" is attempting to hit batman with.

Seems the editor used two halves of two takes to composite the fight, only the two halves don't actually fit together. Guy falls down where he isn't shot and is then shot when he's narratively already down.
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This doesn't explain the two gun attacks.
 
TDK>TDKR>BB

BB is great obviously, but for the all the talk of how great the first third of the film is, the last third is easily the worst segment of the entire trilogy.
 
Batman Begins is the best movie of the trilogy by fair. It was actually semi believable, was mostly about Batman himself, had the least amount of contrived bullshit and Gotham actually looked like what it should.
 
Bought the triple-pack off iTunes yesterday, despite owning a DVD version of Begins and TDK on BluRay

Started from the beginning with BB and was impressed with how great it was. Really well-thought out origin story that treats the Batman mythos respect and has well-grounded reasons for all the Bat-tropes (suit, cave, Bat-sign, Batmobile etc...).

Will be keen to see how TDK holds up - I've watched it a handful of times and enjoyed it immensely but methinks some of the flaws in that film will be more glaring fresh off the viewing of BB.

I thought BB and DKR were tonally very close and I look forward to seeing how many idiosyncrasies the two films share after watching it.
 
If they had left Bane as the main protagonsit I think TDKR would have been a much stronger film, and had a better finish. It could still have been referring back to BB, with the climbing out of the hole, Ras' son etc.
 
But Batman was kind of thevillain there for longer than anyoe else in Gotham's eyes and he came back. Theory DEBUNKED.
 
Wilbury said:
Dunno why you keep talking about Inception, its not even this centurys best sci-fi flick. The Avengers by a country mile. Potentially the best film of the 21st Century outright, and of the top ten films ever created by an American studio
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Avengers is hardly a film. Let alone one that will be remember as anything more than a movie that made a shit load of money by tricking geeks into going to a theater.



I feel like you posted that to draw me out of hiding.
 
TDKR still my favorite of the three but I still wish Bane had just killed Bruce and spent the rest of the movie burning Gotham to the ground.

Since everyone's throwing out ranks

TDKR >>> BB >>>>>>>>>>> TDK
 
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