trailer? what, when, how? dont tease us like that man.
Star Trek Into Darkness - Official poster revealed, teaser trailer now online
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trailer? what, when, how? dont tease us like that man.
The Elite
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They did it with the last film. Did you know Nero's ship was using Borg technology?
Choke on the Magic
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Does the Bluray have the comic on it?
The Elite
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I don't believe so. I think you can get the digital copies for cheap from IDW.
BattleMonkey
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Did the writers of the movie even know this or were involved in that decision? Since again probably less than 99% of the people watching the movie are going to read a crappy IDW tie in comic.
I know from reading about it online but there was no hint of it in the movie.
Nero's plan was seriously awful though. He went back 100 years in time with advanced future weapons. Why didn't he just go to Romulus, tell them what happens in the future, and give them the technology so they can conquer everyone and move off Romulus before the Hobus nova destroys them? Or even use the red matter he stole from Old Spock to pre-emptively eat the star so it can't destroy Romulus?
The Elite
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Oh, obviously not. I don't consider it canon either. At this point though, it's a nice companion piece to the film and explains a lot. No one is ever going to go back and refute it so if people want, they can pretend it's part of the canonical story.
XiaNaphryz
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Dunno if they're doing the same thing as ST or not (shorter teaser debuts online, full trailer debuts in theaters).
The Elite
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COUNTDOWN!!
Kurtzman and Orci were involved with the 'countdown' comic, and helped write the tie-in story featured in it. So yes, they were aware of the 'borg' bit and were likely the ones who put it in there.
They are also involved with the new game as well as the "countdown into darkness" comic coming before the film in May, all of which are considered Canon by the Bad Robot crew.
BlackGoku03
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Yeah, that is a good example.
The example I was thinking of is when Worf's brother wants to save the people of a planet that was dying and Picard says it would go against the prime directive. Worf's brother does it anyway and beams them in the holodeck. Picard is pissed.
Insurrection? Fuck all that shit. I want to bang Donna Murphy.
Choke on the Magic
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I'll be checking this out soon.
The Elite
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I can never buy into the comics as canon though. I think I've been burned too many times in Star Wars and Doctor Who to believe anything is canon unless I get a signed certificate from the guy/gal running the franchise.
Still, it's a good 4-part comic though.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Um...
That was amazing. Cumberbatch gonna be a straight-up BOSS in this. Loved the '09 film. I'm excited.
But then I remember Lindelof is on this. Ugh.
That was amazing. Cumberbatch gonna be a straight-up BOSS in this. Loved the '09 film. I'm excited.
But then I remember Lindelof is on this. Ugh.
There's been multiple interviews (check trekmovie.com) where they explicitly state that the countdown comics are canon. I think they even advertised it with the movie on TV before the '09 film came out. They've also said numerous times that the new game is canon,
and the 'countdown into darkness' pre-comic will be as well.
Kurtzman and Orci wrote the film(s) and are involved in everything to do with what is or isn't Trek Canon in the JJ-verse.
On the other hand, all the IDW "Star Trek ongoing" comics are their own beast, as they've already dealt with Gary Mitchell.
Fine Ham Abounds
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I dunno, I'm not an Abrams fan really, but I've enjoyed ST since I was a child and enjoyed the reboot. I understand how people can want less action and more philosophy and mythology from ST. Personally, I've always felt ST was a great open-ended universe open to a large variety of themes, much like Doctor Who. To an extent I feel like the less your fans can agree on what the best episodes/films are, the less stagnant and predictable you are. Also one of the reasons I've enjoyed the broad changes in flavor the new Doctor Who has had since it resumed.
Pretty hyped for this.
Pretty hyped for this.
Ya at first I thought "Into Darkness" sounded weird but now it makes a lot of sense.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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The porn parody could be called "Star Trek Into Bold Come"
I don't get it...
Would you guys rather have the dude who wrote Lost and Prometheus (flaws and all) leading the way, or the dudes who wrote the Transformers movies?
At the end of the day, Abrams is at fault for accepting shitty writing..and if he got something decent out of the Transformer's hacks, then here's hoping his and Lindelof's collaboration is more along the lines of the Lost pilot.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Is it more proper to boldly come, or to come boldly?
Choke on the Magic
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Well it's even more of an open-ended universe since
The old Spock traveled back in time which led to the destruction of Vulcan and thus changed the course of history.
Perspicacity
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Once I learned (through Simon Pegg's Twitter) that it wasn't a subtitle but rather that "Star Trek" was a verb I've dug the name.
TangoAlphaLima
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To be fair, TF1 is a pretty decent action movie (don't listen to the internet trolls) and TF2 was made during the writers guild strike, so they weren't there to steer Michael Bay in the right direction. Orci & Kurtzman have both expressed disgust with how TF2 turned out, and I'm not going to place blame directly on them.
Anticitizen One
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some people on youtube are saying the blonde girl is going to turn out to be this lady from the first episode of Star Trek:
NekoFever
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HE SAID THE NAME OF THE SERIES!
I bet you don't groan when people go "Doctor...who?"
slightconfuse
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Hit damn that looks great . Cumberbatchblooks bad ass.
Loved 09
Loved 09
Neither, but if my life was on the line it would be Transformers. No question.
Prometheus looked beautiful but the only thing that prevented it from being totally boring was how dumb the characters were.
Fine Ham Abounds
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I hate to be that guy, but the only thing that prevented it from being completely boring for me was Noomi Rapace in her underwear. Oh, and my mancrush on Fassbender.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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People in this thread are saying that too.some people on youtube are saying the blonde girl is going to turn out to be this lady from the first episode of Star Trek:
I'm a big, big Star Trek fan (got into the show with TNG back in the early 90's, then went back and loved the original series, and watched Voyager, Enterprise, and currently Deep Space 9, with my wife).
At the end of the day, there are 5 Star Trek shows, and what, 11 movies, adding up to hundreds of episodes of "traditional" Trek. You get the boring, only interesting to hardcore fanboys/girls space politics that fill up entire episodes while the general plot stagnates, then you get some great character episodes where shit actually happens and characters develop. You can gorge on hours upon hours of "classic" Trek in tone and atmosphere.
There has been one 2 hour, faster paced, still character driven, and "popcorny" Star Trek flick, and the fans are going apeshit. Glass half empty for some of you. On the one hand, Trekkies got a lot of shit from the masses about the appeal of Star Trek. Why are they so into something like this. A movie like ST2009 hits, and, at the very least, it introduces the mainstream to a cast of characters we hold very dear to our Trekkie hearts. And, dammit, the new cast did those characters justice. I went into ST2009 with a lot of reservations. I walked out dying for a sequel. While the films may not turn these newcomers into die hard Trek fans who want to absorb every bit of Trek from this point on, at the least, they now understand what was so appealing about the characters and world to begin with.
As a fan, I love these new versions of Trek characters. It's something different than what I'm used to seeing in Star Trek, and it's enjoyable and fun to watch. Sure, I can rewatch the various series over and over again, but the same can be said for Abrams first Trek movie. My wife is also a hardcore Trek fan (even more than I am), and she loves the movies as well.
To non-Star Trek fans, the previous movies and the shows feel like Star Trek: Insurrection; Longwinded, pompous, and boring. These new movies feel more like Star Trek: First Contact; faster, charming, and fun to watch.
I love me some traditional Trek, sure, but I'm not going to go batshit crazy over what will total only 4 hours of "New Sexy Trek", when compared to hundreds of hours of traditional Trek.
Into Darkness is looking cool, and an extension of the first one. I'm down for that. If it sucks, I'll console myself with a marathon of original series Trek and The Next Generation. It's not the end of the world here, guys.
At the end of the day, there are 5 Star Trek shows, and what, 11 movies, adding up to hundreds of episodes of "traditional" Trek. You get the boring, only interesting to hardcore fanboys/girls space politics that fill up entire episodes while the general plot stagnates, then you get some great character episodes where shit actually happens and characters develop. You can gorge on hours upon hours of "classic" Trek in tone and atmosphere.
There has been one 2 hour, faster paced, still character driven, and "popcorny" Star Trek flick, and the fans are going apeshit. Glass half empty for some of you. On the one hand, Trekkies got a lot of shit from the masses about the appeal of Star Trek. Why are they so into something like this. A movie like ST2009 hits, and, at the very least, it introduces the mainstream to a cast of characters we hold very dear to our Trekkie hearts. And, dammit, the new cast did those characters justice. I went into ST2009 with a lot of reservations. I walked out dying for a sequel. While the films may not turn these newcomers into die hard Trek fans who want to absorb every bit of Trek from this point on, at the least, they now understand what was so appealing about the characters and world to begin with.
As a fan, I love these new versions of Trek characters. It's something different than what I'm used to seeing in Star Trek, and it's enjoyable and fun to watch. Sure, I can rewatch the various series over and over again, but the same can be said for Abrams first Trek movie. My wife is also a hardcore Trek fan (even more than I am), and she loves the movies as well.
To non-Star Trek fans, the previous movies and the shows feel like Star Trek: Insurrection; Longwinded, pompous, and boring. These new movies feel more like Star Trek: First Contact; faster, charming, and fun to watch.
I love me some traditional Trek, sure, but I'm not going to go batshit crazy over what will total only 4 hours of "New Sexy Trek", when compared to hundreds of hours of traditional Trek.
Into Darkness is looking cool, and an extension of the first one. I'm down for that. If it sucks, I'll console myself with a marathon of original series Trek and The Next Generation. It's not the end of the world here, guys.
some people on youtube are saying the blonde girl is going to turn out to be this lady from the first episode of Star Trek:
That was my thought. Which makes Cumberbatch Gary Mitchell.
Anticitizen One
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Why? It's an altnerative timeline and it's possible they will mix elements of two or three episodes together. So maybe in this universe Elizebeth Dehner gets powers but there is no Gary Mithcell while at the same time one of Khan's Supermen springs loose. I'm fine with Gary Mitchell but I think it's an odd name for a supervillian and a british guy so I don't think it's him.
Exterminieren
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I'm in this for Cumberbatch and the returning cast.
That is all.
That is all.
Anticitizen One
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lmao he should totally be a new villian who goes under the alias "gary khan"
MrCunningham
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Eh, Shatner doesn't look too bad for an 81 year old man. He still has more on screen charisma than Chris Pine.
I hated "action movie" Picard. You're right, he was always so contradictory of his TV show incarnation in most every way possible. But apparently that's what Patrick Stewart wanted the direction of Picard to go in for the movies. Which is kind of funny, because it is almost the opposite of original TV show Kirk vs. OG movie Kirk. The TV show captain Kirk, he was much more of a hot head and was willing to solve problems with his fists. But in the movies he became more methodological and less risk taking.
I'm sure they will update the look of the ship to fit with 2012, it will have more of a Samsung Galaxy S II aesthetic this time around.
And as for the trailer, sand the fog horns, it reminds me a lot of the Prometheus trailers. I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing yet. It looks like they are going with a Khan re-envisioning story line, and there are a lot less scenes of Kirk hanging off a ledge or a shot with lens flare in it, which is nice. Will have to wait and see more. Also no Klingon reveals
. Ah well... But, I am actually looking forward to seeing how this one turns out.
Hot Coldman
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That's not all. You're forgetting someone.
The Elite
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Every time. Now it's actually part of the plot so I'm giving it a pass.
The Elite
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Having wallpaper that features yourself is tacky. Go oogle some cosplayers.
Femmeworth
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It's not like the first Transformers movie was much better.
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