The Phantom Pain, aka Metal Gear Solid V, Announced (360/PS3, "Moby Dick Studio")
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Boom.
No but if that wasn't Jack fuckin Bauer i will eat my hat (Pachter style!)
Itchy//Tasty
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The boy is called Chico, he's a supporting character from Peace Walker, which GZ continues off from. The Snake infiltrating is indeed Big Boss. The bad guy is a mystery, but it's either a new villain or there's a theory that it's Galvez/Zadornov from PW. Your last Q about the coma can't really be answered, it's all speculative at the moment, but the cloning happens before PW, so I'm guessing Phantom Pain is either a different incident, or a flashback.
Graphics Horse
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The conversation you hear when the music starts is Big Boss is going in to rescue Chico.
As far as the coma thing, that should have already happened before Peace Walker, and he had 2 arms then, but these things have a habit of being rewrittten.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I'm so confused.
So a game called The Phantom Pain was "announced at VGA and it looked super similar to a MGS-game? And now people are saying (with some proof) that it is indeed MGS5? But where does Ground Zeroes fit in this?
So a game called The Phantom Pain was "announced at VGA and it looked super similar to a MGS-game? And now people are saying (with some proof) that it is indeed MGS5? But where does Ground Zeroes fit in this?
The boy is probably the kid in Peace Walker
Ugly guy is probably the villain from Peace Walker
Bad guy is wearing a XOF emblem which is (dumb) probably a mirror to Snake's FOX organisation or created to destroy FOX.
WickedCobra03
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I am ready for this, but... I think I would much rather just have the Ground Zeros come out for these consoles and then MGS5 finally come out like a year or so into the new consoles life.
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^^^That is exactly how I feel. Just put the time into the current gen release and then say a year or 18 months into the PS4 or whatever, release the next metal gear. I feel like each won't do as well being stacked. I am a Metal Gear fan, but even me, it takes me 6 months to play through a 15-25 hour campaign... I just take my time in games and don't have hours every afternoon during the winters anymore to just sit down and play games like I did in high school or even in college.
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^^^That is exactly how I feel. Just put the time into the current gen release and then say a year or 18 months into the PS4 or whatever, release the next metal gear. I feel like each won't do as well being stacked. I am a Metal Gear fan, but even me, it takes me 6 months to play through a 15-25 hour campaign... I just take my time in games and don't have hours every afternoon during the winters anymore to just sit down and play games like I did in high school or even in college.
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That's cool, because Kyle Cooper's MGS2 title sequence is still one of my favorites of all time.
Either that or they may be doing a cross gen release on current and next gen in order to make sure they get the full install base of current gen.
It could be MGS V, but then again it could be just another level of crazy that Kojima put in the trailer to throw people off. Either way it's 100% MGS related, no questions about it at this point.
Ground Zeroes is the prologue to MGS 5. Just like the tanker was to MGS 2 and Virtuous Mission was to MGS 3.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
W...wow.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Now this makes the most sense. I want the whole Ground Zeroe sequence to be a dream, with the hospital scene a reality. It'll explain the high-tech gadget in Ground Zeroes.
DO IT KOJIMA! Grow them balls!
Wasn't he in CoD World at War? Maybe they took the line out of that game? lol
"On your feet, soldier. The whole place is coming down" sounds like something you hear at least once in every cod game.
metareferential
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So we end up having a wonderful prologue to a lackluster game again?
No thanks. I wanted to kill everyone after the tanker sequence was over in MGS2. Fucking Raiden. xD
It very well could be. Also, Kojima doesn't need to grow any balls after how he fucking masterfully tricked people with MGS 2. So fucking good. Point in case:
Alec
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I like this theory too but let's not start talking about it as if it's confirmed.
bigboss370
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you've been saying negative things since the beginning, why are u still here lol
its a big thread man, already been brought up
Is this shocking to you? That's how they are.
Graphics Horse
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Those were over in an hour or two when we weren't limited to replaying the demo over and over.
That explanation doesn't really gel with having a number of huge open world areas to play around with and a mother base to develop and walk around in like Kojima has confirmed.
All we've seen from this trailer is a guy crawling around with an arm missing. I accept that it could be the final chapter of the same game, but not the meat of a game with such a meaty prologue.
It could intertwine a PW style game as flashback in between PP sections, i don't know if that would be a good idea though.
They have.
cause im still interested in what happens mang, the only true negative for me is that id rather for this to be a new IP than ANOTHER Metal Gear game, but I can do nothing but move past that and accept Kojima's cage.
Thread is providing some good discussion, just weirded out by the uber-fans already pushing out legitimate opinions
Sickboy007
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It was more a retort of ThoseDeafMutes's reasoning that he could just be part of the team. Who in their right mind would send their outsorced title designer to the presentation of their biggest and first game at the VGAs?
YianGaruga
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It's a MGS thread. Just sit back and enjoy the show.
That explanation doesn't really gel with having a number of huge open world areas to play around with and a mother base to develop and walk around in like Kojima has confirmed.
All we've seen from this trailer is a guy crawling around with an arm missing. I accept that it could be the final chapter of the same game, but not the meat of a game with such a meaty prologue.
They have.
He lies.
You're probably right.
I want to play the entire game as an amputee.
Charoncaori
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Ah, I wasn't paying too much attention to his skepticism.
I wonder when Konami is just going to come out and say it, lol. Are they gonna do another Peace Walker-style ARG? (the way that horrible code hunt was handled made me not buy a copy at launch, heh)
Interesting.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I haven't played Peace Walker. Doesn't Snake go into a coma at the end of Portable Ops?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Moby means big. It's a metaphor of how big of a dick Kojima is for trolling us...
I don't remember that happening. He does go into a coma at some point in his life though when the Patriots steal his DNA to make Solid and Liquid.
With what? Can someone recap me on the last 12 hours? I've been at work
Sickboy007
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With what? Can someone recap me on the last 12 hours? I've been at work
The person on the right is Kyle Cooper, a noted title sequences designer who worked on MGS2 & 3.
Psycho Mantis/The Sorrow doll lookalike.
Same soldiers as Ground Zeroes
Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain = same game??
they both have the same soldiers, and Kojima already say that GZ is a prologue to MGS5
It'd be easy to just reuse the art assets. Pretty sound if they really are making two games at once.
Anyway, it's odd though that they just didn't announce it as MGS5. I know Kojima is pretty nuts, but this seems a bit overboard.
The Bookerman
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More like snake skin... ANd he's crawling like a snake... Please make it stop, I'm seeing signs everywhere... God damn kojima knows how to throw off people.
A.) This is all a dream
B.) He's been in a coma for a while
C.) He's old
Those are my guesses.
The person on the right is Kyle Cooper, a noted title sequences designer who worked on MGS2 & 3.
Psycho Mantis/The Sorrow doll lookalike.
Same soldiers as Ground Zeroes
Amazing. Thanks so much.
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