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Lightning Returns trailer

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WHAT IS THIS?

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I'm just not quick to judge is all. I've tended to have fun with the finished products, and don't see a real reason to write something off before I actually play it.

Same here. Of course I'm not watching this trailer thinking "wow this game looks so nice and polished" clearly there's some work to be done, but it won't be out for a while yet.
 
Toriyama is a poor director, but I was actually hoping the production values and the new game mechanics would salvage this project into something decent.

Outside of music, is there even anything that saves this trailer?

1. Whatever could be good out of the art style is unfulfilled.
2. Character design is terrible.
3. The battle UI is as much of a mess as Lightning's clothes.
4. The combat looks pretty much like FFXIII's without the extra dynamic of party mechanics.
5. The technical stuff is horrendous and looks worse than the ps2-era FF games.
6. More immersion-breaking Chocolina shops?
7. More poor writing from Toriyama and Watanabe as expected. Poorly-written "poetic" dialogue full of nonsense. Story events completely disjointed from the prequels. Over-reliance on long-ass monologues to tell everything. And ridiculous, immersion-breaking decisions like
8. ... our armored-stripper-goddess Lightning putting sunglasses on.

The trailer was an unexciting mess of different, unpolished stuff all thrown together.
 
This game's art direction is a total mess, and I already think the XIII series has bad art direction. How did they go from Academia to this?
 
man... that outfit...

it's slightly less bad than I was led to believe from famitsu, at least, but that isn't saying much
 
Same here. Of course I'm not watching this trailer thinking "wow this game looks so nice and polished" clearly there's some work to be done, but it won't be out for a while yet.

This game will be out before the holiday 2013. The idea that it is early in development is a fallacy.
 
The city part of the trailer was the most disappointing thing about it. It looks low quality/flat. Though it's an early trailer, so I am hopeful they'll fix/improve that, since the city is a pretty important part of the game, one would expect.

Yeah, I'm not too worried on that. They've shown things change and improve as time goes on from the previous game launches. It looks like they decided to show us alpha footage though.
 
This game will be out before the holiday 2013. The idea that it is early in development is a fallacy.

And it's holiday 2012. There's no possible way that they could clean the game up before then? That's a year away give or take.

I'm just not going to condemn the visuals based on a short trailer a year before the game comes out. If the game comes out and it looks exactly like that, I will be shocked and will gladly eat some crow.
 
I'm just not quick to judge is all. I've tended to have fun with the finished products, and don't see a real reason to write something off before I actually play it.

Call me optimistic, but I like to think that all games will be good before they come out. It's only after i've finished that I start really shit-talking/praising something with actual conviction.

+1
 
And it's holiday 2012. There's no possible way that they could clean the game up before then? That's a year away give or take.

I'm just not going to condemn the visuals based on a short trailer a year before the game comes out. If the game comes out and it looks exactly like that, I will be shocked and will gladly eat some crow.

I can't wait.
 
I love how NeoGAF is going completely crazy about how supposedly bad this is, but everywhere else I look (gaming sites/facebook comments..) most impressions are either good or balanced.

I guess I'll stay clear of XIII threads on GAF for the future, it's just gratuitous bashing all the time =/.
 
Toriyama is a poor director, but I was actually hoping the production values and the new game mechanics would salvage this project into something decent.

Outside of music, is there even anything that saves this trailer?

1. Whatever could be good out of the art style is unfulfilled.
2. Character design is terrible.
3. The battle UI is as much of a mess as Lightning's clothes.
4. The combat looks pretty much like FFXIII's without the extra dynamic of party mechanics.
5. The technical stuff is horrendous and looks worse than the ps2-era FF games.
6. More immersion-breaking Chocolina shops?
7. More poor writing from Toriyama and Watanabe as expected. Poorly-written "poetic" dialogue full of nonsense. Story events completely disjointed from the prequels. Over-reliance on long-ass monologues to tell everything. And ridiculous, immersion-breaking decisions like
8. ... our armored-stripper-goddess Lightning putting sunglasses on.

The trailer was an unexciting mess of different, unpolished stuff all thrown together.

Ahaha! This.

Except the combat, which is an improvement since it offers control over movement. Taking away the party dynamic is to its detriment however.
 
That trailer did nothing for me. FFXIII was the last Final Fantasy game I played, and it looks like it will be that way for a good while. *sigh*
 
I never looked too closely at environments unless they are totally butt ugly or really good looking. All I remember from 13-2 was that Academia looked great.

Academia looked great, but thats about the only environment that looked great from XIII-2.

Almost everything from XIII looked great.
 
I dare anyone to justify how that is remotely good.

Damn, Shenmue 3 for Dreamcast lookin' SICK

Xbox 1 port?

Seriously guys?

Well yea.. the AF is well... bad and sparse population is evident. But it really doesn't look like it belongs in the last gen. Of course, I don't know how much of it is actually final but it does look worse than FF13's city modelling.

Why are there photos hanging up outside

Which ones?
 
I love how NeoGAF is going completely crazy about how supposedly bad this is, but everywhere else I look (gaming sites/facebook comments..) most impressions are either good or balanced.

I guess I'll stay clear of XIII threads on GAF for the future, it's just gratuitous bashing all the time =/.

Heathens blinded by light I say.
 
I love how NeoGAF is going completely crazy about how supposedly bad this is, but everywhere else I look (gaming sites/facebook comments..) most impressions are either good or balanced.

I guess I'll stay clear of XIII threads on GAF for the future, it's just gratuitous bashing all the time =/.

I'd check out other Final Fantasy related threads on GAF. Lot's of positive opinions on both past and upcoming Final Fantasy games. Stop trying to act like GAF is a hivemind. The negative opinions on Lightning Returns will be reinforced by its sales.
 
I love how NeoGAF is going completely crazy about how supposedly bad this is, but everywhere else I look (gaming sites/facebook comments..) most impressions are either good or balanced.

I guess I'll stay clear of XIII threads on GAF for the future, it's just gratuitous bashing all the time =/.

Why did it take you this long to learn that Gaf threads for XIII in general tend to be much more negative then anything else?
 
I love how NeoGAF is going completely crazy about how supposedly bad this is, but everywhere else I look (gaming sites/facebook comments..) most impressions are either good or balanced.

I guess I'll stay clear of XIII threads on GAF for the future, it's just gratuitous bashing all the time =/.

It really is unfair. But you should help me defend it here instead. Its hard being 3/4 members only. :s
 
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