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The Dark Knight Rises |OT2| The Legend... Continues

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Raptor said:
How did Blake knew where to find Gordon on the sewers?

Watched the BD last night and my wife asked me that, I didn't knew the answer lols, considering the dude who said to Bane that it was like a Maze down there.
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There's a point earlier in the movie where he finds a body at that exact same place and they explain its like the main drainage point or something.

Edit: Blah! Beaten!
 
Raptor said:
Can't remember that part at all.

Oh well thanks, you guys are great.
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It's right before Blake goes to St. Swithin's. The body that came out of the sewer was the brother of the kid who draws the Batman logo with the chalk and asks Blake if he's ever coming back.
 
It's really fashionable to to beat up on these film now, but history will be very kind to them. In the same way that Lucas changed SciFi blockbusters forever Nolan has changed super hero/comic book movies forever. Sorry haters, but that's just the way it's gonna pan out. The Bale voice, Ledger's Joker et al are rightfully part of our culture now.
 
Anabuhabkuss said:
Kid had a lot of hinched which turned outto be conveniently right all the time; seriously this character alone had me mentally check out of the film very early on because I could just visualize how he was written on paper to simply serve as a plot device. That scene where he approaches Bruce and put together that he was Batman has forever turned Nolan and Goyer names i'll likely hate hearing for a good while.

"You're eyes, you're lonely; i'm lonely, i'm an orphan so....OMG YOU'RE BATMAN AMIRITE?!"
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I understand people liking Catwoman a lot, but Blake? It felt way forced.

140.85 said:
It's really fashionable to to beat up on these film now, but history will be very kind to them. In the same way that Lucas changed SciFi blockbusters forever Nolan has changed super hero/comic book movies forever. Sorry haters, but that's just the way it's gonna pan out. The Bale voice, Ledger's Joker et al are rightfully part of our culture now.
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No one is stating the opposite, but the same won't apply with this movie. You'll see. The first two? yes, for sure. However, to me Nolan's movies seem to be great on first watch (minus TDKR) and rewatches only hurt them (at least that happens with TDK and Inception).
 
140.85 said:
It's really fashionable to to beat up on these film now, but history will be very kind to them. In the same way that Lucas changed SciFi blockbusters forever Nolan has changed super hero/comic book movies forever. Sorry haters, but that's just the way it's gonna pan out. The Bale voice, Ledger's Joker et al are rightfully part of our culture now.
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Nuh uh, my friend doesn't like them. I hear WOM is poor.
 
Anabuhabkuss said:
Respectfully, I disagree completely. I think as more time goes by, these films will degrade in many people's eyes as they, like me, point out the absurdities in these films.

I used to be a nutcase about TDK, loved it. Then the questions popped up...why would the cop stand IN the room guarding Joker and not outside the locked door? Why would Joker's escape be contingent on knowing that a cop would hand him a phone while holding a hostage?Things like that began to take away my suspension of disbelief for a trilogy whose very foundation is that here are how these characters would live and breathe in a relatable, grounded and real world.

When you have that foundation set and actions and choices these characters make don't make sense, you have films that now have an identity crisis. Am I suppose to take these seriously or not? and I honest to god, do not have that answer to that question anymore.

When I turn on, just for comparison's sake, Burton's films, you know on the first scene, that this is a comic book movie first and foremost and that fun and comicy book stuff is about to unfold. That's the foundation; so when you have Keaten nail a brooding character and have these great moments, it takes you by surprise despite the fact that a few minutes later, Prince's song is about to blast through a boombox in a musuem.
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The Dark Knight Trilogy's culture impact and place in history is set now. Unless Nolan comes back and does another sequel or starts doing new cuts of the movies, it's done. The idea that it's place in history will be affected by things like "Why was that cop in the room?!? LOL!" is god damn absurd.

Nolan ain't coming back for The Phantom Menace or The Hobbit, I'll eat my Nolan vest if he did.
 
DMczaf said:
The Dark Knight Trilogy's culture impact and place in history is set now. Unless Nolan comes back and does another sequel or starts doing new cuts of the movies, it's done. The idea that it's place in history will be affected by things like "Why was that cop in the room?!? LOL!" is god damn absurd.

Nolan ain't coming back for The Phantom Menace or The Hobbit, I'll eat my Nolan vest if he did.
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Nolan's sequel trilogy with Blake as the Batman! He found a pile of money Bruce had hidden in the cave for him (so he could afford being Batman). The Dark Knight Returns! With the Riddler as main villain. Mark my words!

He won't make more Batman movies.
 
Charles Foster Kane said:
Nolan's sequel trilogy with Blake as the Batman! He found a pile of money Bruce had hidden in the cave for him (so he could afford being Batman). The Dark Knight Returns! With the Riddler as main villain. Mark my words! :P
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Why does Batman let that family get mugged at the beginning of the film?
Why do people party with The Joker at the parade despite them knowing he's a killer and he has poisoned the city?
Why didn't the cops how up at the parade to arrest The Joker?
 
2022

"At the time I wanted to have Clayface be the one who killed Batman's parents, but now with the power of 60 FPS CGI 4D we can make that happen finally."

Damn you Scullllliiiiiiiiiiii!
 
Guzim said:
Don't forget other directors using Nolan's Batman films as inspiration.
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Guys, I'm making a blockbuster action movie where my villain gets caught on purpose in the middle of the movie and gets interrogated.

(and no, I'm not saying Nolan invented it, but you damn well know it's not a coincidence that it's happening so much now after TDK)
 
Anabuhabkuss said:
Kid had a lot of hunches that turned outto be conveniently right all the time; seriously this character alone had me mentally check out of the film very early on because I could just visualize how he was written on paper to simply serve as a plot device. That scene where he approaches Bruce and put together that he was Batman has forever turned Nolan and Goyer names i'll likely hate hearing for a good while.

"You're eyes, you're lonely; i'm lonely, i'm an orphan so....OMG YOU'RE BATMAN AMIRITE?!"
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Chalk it up to Robin's detective skills.
 
DMczaf said:
Guys, I'm making a blockbuster action movie where my villain gets caught on purpose in the middle of the movie and gets interrogated.

(and no, I'm not saying Nolan invented it, but you damn well know it's not a coincidence that it's happening so much now after TDK)
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It happens in Se7en too. In fact it's the whole climax. Getting caught had a bigger impact on that one than in TDK (imo).

Blader5489 said:
Skyfall, for one.
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Yeah, I knew that one, but I don't think it's that prominent. If any, TDK will be the one with the bigger impact (of his movies).
 
It was pretty funny when bloggers like Devin Faraci were holding Avengers up as the change in comic book movies and how dark and serious comic book movies were dead, and then Iron Man 3's trailer was pretty much The Iron Man Rises.
 
DMczaf said:
It was pretty funny when bloggers like Devin Faraci were holding Avengers up as the change in comic book movies and how dark and serious comic book movies were dead, and then Iron Man 3's trailer was pretty much The Iron Man Rises.
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Yeah I caught that right away. Also Supes is taking a different approach too.

I have no problem with the way Avengers was presented, but its not the kind of style that makes me feel.
 
DMczaf said:
It was pretty funny when bloggers like Devin Faraci were holding Avengers up as the change in comic book movies and how dark and serious comic book movies were dead, and then Iron Man 3's trailer was pretty much The Iron Man Rises.
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I think that all this making comic book super hero movies darker and "realistic" makes the goofy/silly stuff shine brighter.
 
Charles Foster Kane said:
Quotes? Just curious.
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http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayl...0121018?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Sam Mendes said:
In terms of what [Nolan] achieved, specifically ‘The Dark Knight,’ the second movie, what it achieved, which is something exceptional. It was a game changer for everybody...
That did help give me the confidence to take this movie in directions that, without ‘The Dark Knight,’ might not have been possible. Because also, people go, ‘Wow, that’s pretty dark,’ but then you can point to ‘Dark Knight’ and go ‘Look at that – that’s a darker movie, and it took in a gazillion dollars!’ That’s very helpful. There’s also that thing – it’s clearly possible to make a dark movie that people want to see."
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http://www.empireonline.com/features/the-dark-knight-effect

Rupert Wyatt said:
I referenced it all the time during the making of Apes, in terms of my hopes for people understanding the idea was to make a film that really dealt with our world.
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Then you have The Amazing Spider-Man where it's painfully obvious that Marc Webb was using Batman Begins as a guideline.
 
Guzim said:
Why does Batman let that family get mugged at the beginning of the film?
Why do people party with The Joker at the parade despite them knowing he's a killer and he has poisoned the city?
Why didn't the cops how up at the parade to arrest The Joker?
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I never thought about any of this. lol

Just goes to show that if you wanna be a dick about any movie, you can. Especially in this genre.
 
Guzim said:
Why does Batman let that family get mugged at the beginning of the film?
Why do people party with The Joker at the parade despite them knowing he's a killer and he has poisoned the city?
Why didn't the cops how up at the parade to arrest The Joker?
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LeBrick James said:
I never thought about any of this. lol

Just goes to show that if you wanna be a dick about any movie, you can. Especially in this genre.
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Yeah lol. Well, at least that one wasn't trying to take itself serious. The movie is not that good anyways.
 
DMczaf said:
It was pretty funny when bloggers like Devin Faraci were holding Avengers up as the change in comic book movies and how dark and serious comic book movies were dead, and then Iron Man 3's trailer was pretty much The Iron Man Rises.
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Which is a damn shame.

The Avengers is how the most comic booky movies should be done.
 
Anabuhabkuss said:
Spot on! Nolan's trilogy wants me to believe (or does it?) that his characters can exist in the real world. Burton's film had a different approach and vision. I can watch the Burton films with my bullshit goggles on. With that said, those actors knew how to balance those characters and instill both fun and seriousness into them.
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Your issue was with gaps in logic (e.g. why would Stephens stay in the cell with Joker?), what does style have to do with that? Why would you be more accepting of logic problems in Burton's films just because they're more fantasy stylized?

People take the "realism" aspect of Nolan's trilogy too far and too seriously, anyway.
 
Blader5489 said:
Your issue was with gaps in logic (e.g. why would Stephens stay in the cell with Joker?), what does style have to do with that? Why would you be more accepting of logic problems in Burton's films just because they're more fantasy stylized?
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Outside of Joker becoming Joker by falling into a vat of chemicals, Batman '89 embraces realism almost to the same extent anyway. Returns was a little out there though.
Liquidsnake said:
If the world truly came to an end tomorrow, I would spend my last few hours watching this trilogy. What a way to go.
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lmao. You're getting good at this.
 
The Anti-Monitor said:
Which is a damn shame.

The Avengers is how the most comic booky movies should be done.
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Agreed.
Fun and bright! I really liked that tone.

And I disagree with the one that said that history will be kind to these movies, if something, rewatching DK and DKR just point out how stupid the characters are.

Not to sound like a cliche, but Nolan's movies work as a dream, within the context everything makes sense, but when you wake up and think about it, the absurdity becomes evident.
 
How about The Godfather, for starters? Each of the first two films alone is greater than the entire Nolan trilogy combined.
 
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