Penn Gillette defends violent media (and Call of Duty) on a talk show

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KvtS0QHnAc

I have no idea who Wendy Williams is or why she has her own talk show but as someone who doesn't really watch TV, are the views held by the women on this show eaten up by the home audience just as easily as the studio audience cheers it on?

The lack of any thought before they speak makes Penn really pissed off, I can't believe what I'm seeing here.

I love how they call Penn the one who is "outrageously opinionated," nobody really watches this right?
 
GrizzNKev said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KvtS0QHnAc

I have no idea who Wendy Williams is or why she has her own talk show but as someone who doesn't really watch TV, are the views held by the women on this show eaten up by the home audience just as easily as the studio audience cheers it on?

The lack of any thought before they speak makes Penn really pissed off, I can't believe what I'm seeing here.

I love how they call Penn the one who is "outrageously opinionated," nobody really watches this right?
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All you have to know is Wendy Williams is terrible.
 
What is even the point of going on a show like that? It's just a bunch of people fighting to get in their oversimplified sound bite to hopefully win an audience applause.
 
God, the very first sentence out of Penn's mouth is an incredible contrast to the statements of the other guests.

Also what the HELL would a "mental health czar" even do?
 
i dont think i could clap as much as that audience, my hands would be raw
 
Leona Lewis said:
The clapping after every sentence is so obnoxious.
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well I just watched that.

I didn't know it was Penn the magician.


My god it was hard to sit through that I can't imagine how he did it.


I fucking hate Wendy Williams.
 
I saw him the other day near Times Square...had I heard this "interview" before that I might have walked up to him and said "thanks for making sense."
 
I think Penn did his best, and I would MOSTLY agree with him - although I wonder what his opinion is on gun culture in general. I understand he is a libertarian so... probably not in line with my own opinion. He talks about how mass shootings are rare, but I would like to know if a campaign to marginalise gun culture would appeal to him - it's obvious that gun culture and everything that comes with it (idolizing them, owning them and using them) very much DOES have an effect on the rate of violent crime in a city, state or town. He speaks about priorities, but I wonder where that sits on his list.
 
i hate her.


Kinitari said:
I think Penn did his best, and I would MOSTLY agree with him - although I wonder what his opinion is on gun culture in general. I understand he is a libertarian so... probably not in line with my own opinion. He talks about how mass shootings are rare, but I would like to know if a campaign to marginalise gun culture would appeal to him - it's obvious that gun culture and everything that comes with it (idolizing them, owning them and using them) very much DOES have an effect on the rate of violent crime in a city, state or town. He speaks about priorities, but I wonder where that sits on his list.
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i'm sure he has an episode of Penn & Teller BS about it, they do lots of different subjects.


He is right in this argument. Mass shooting pale in comparison to car accidents every year, swimming pool drownings, things you don't hear about. Mass shootings happen in such small amounts compared to what people "say" happens with all of the guns and crazy people out there in America. And it propagates a culture of fear.
 
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"outrageously opinionated"

okay
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Thought that was pretty ridiculous to, especially considering how levelheaded he is compared to the other speakers. You have a woman calling for "mental health czars in every county" but the guy pleading the other speakers to reconsider blaming people with Asperger's for shooting is the outrageous one.

I always forget how much I respect him when I haven't heard or seen anything from him in awhile. I've been putting off buying his new book for awhile, partially because I've been busy and partially because I assumed it'd be a rehash of God, No!

Whimsical Phil said:
For those who were unaware, Penn has a weekly podcast that's pretty great. Penn's Sunday School.
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I'll have to check this out too.


His legs look ridiculous under that table.


Kinitari said:
I think Penn did his best, and I would MOSTLY agree with him - although I wonder what his opinion is on gun culture in general. I understand he is a libertarian so... probably not in line with my own opinion. He talks about how mass shootings are rare, but I would like to know if a campaign to marginalise gun culture would appeal to him - it's obvious that gun culture and everything that comes with it (idolizing them, owning them and using them) very much DOES have an effect on the rate of violent crime in a city, state or town. He speaks about priorities, but I wonder where that sits on his list.
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When he talks about priorities he means that we should focus on things that actually kill people. More (many?) people die per year from preventable disease than mass shootings, so we should focus on that as a society. More kids drown per year than are murdered, so instead of making them scared a classmate is going to kill the, we should build fences around pools.

I would assume that Penn's reaction to your question would be to ask whether you have concrete evidence that gun culture effects an area's violence or whether the effect is "obvious" to you the way it's obvious to that legendary news anchor that CoD trains autistic kids to murder.

Even if there was, I doubt he'd show much interest in a marginalization campaign since there's the other more deadly concerns he brought up to tackle first.
 
I mostly agree with Penn. I think single payer healthcare and gun vendors and RFID chips to track guns silently would be a good idea to stop mentally ill people from obtaining them. But Penn is correct that it is overly sensationalized and we should focus on things that have a greater impact (school lunches and food marketing to kids, vaccines). You can do both.

The rest of the panel is mental for blaming games.
 
"Most people are good"

Yeah he is a libertarian.

Edit: That Aspergers bit really pissed off Penn. Interesting since GAF and the ladies seem to line up pretty much exactly when it comes to things like "mental health czars."
 
This conversation is terrifying on so many levels. I get the desire for increased gun control measures but unfortunately this is the kind of shrill fearmongering that is all too present from this crowd.

It's ultimately a flailing attack on anything and everything that could possibly be hurting people with no logic behind it. Ban guns, ban violent movies, ban violent videogames, ban people with mental illnesses, etc. This shit never works and it's an frankly insane overreaction to a tragic but rare incident.

I like that Penn talks about the media's responsibility to not instill baseless fear in the community, but am saddened that it falls on deaf ears in this interview.
 
GrizzNKev said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KvtS0QHnAc

I have no idea who Wendy Williams is or why she has her own talk show but as someone who doesn't really watch TV, are the views held by the women on this show eaten up by the home audience just as easily as the studio audience cheers it on?

The lack of any thought before they speak makes Penn really pissed off, I can't believe what I'm seeing here.

I love how they call Penn the one who is "outrageously opinionated," nobody really watches this right?
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Lol, what a mess.
But the argument is so old and tired, it [this TVShow] doesn't even warrant a serious discussion.
Still, dibs to Jillet, for calling out on the bullshit.
 
yeah, the more hugs thing was absolutely asinine.

and mental health czars in every county would propagate our culture of fear against mental health patients.
 
Wow, it's pretty insulting they don't even know what asperger's is. Way to put down autistic people by making it sound like they're all fucking loonies, disgusting.
 
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