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Get more games (Q1 is already a good improvement eventhough that there arent any huge sellers) and drop the price on the hardware. How well it will work is another question however, but that is what they can do

I find it hard to believe that one could revive the Vita. I've never seen anything fail quite like it before, but maybe I'm just a young whippersnapper who doesn't know what he is talking about. It just seems like the system itself is not suited for the market and price drops might not prove effective here. They'll have to pull out all the stops on the software if that is the case.

More games (moneyhatting?), big price cut (making a loss?), a marketing boost, all possible things if Sony is happy to risk billions.

Which is extremely unlikely when they'll have their PS4 to introduce. It's not like Sony has a dedicated war chest like Nintendo does. They've got a lot of company arms to take care of and not all of them are healthy.

 

[smbu2000]

The Wii U has had pretty good availability in my area for the past week/week and a half or so.

 

[farnham]

The Wii U has had pretty good availability in my area for the past week/week and a half or so.

Where in japan do you live?

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Here:

http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20121226061

Scroll a bit down on that page =)

Soul Sacrifice everywhere.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

No, sane person is saying Wii U is going to perform on par with Vita or 360 in japan. Your entire post isnt grounded with reality.

Wait what, isn't that the nightmare scenario I was just describing? Unless that comma is misplaced hahhaa.

 

[Malvingt2]

Oh wow @ the 3DS & AC.

WiiU numbers are ok.

 

[electroplankton]

Also, Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney dropped off the MC chart, but on the Famitsu? Is this really that bad?

Was anyone expecting those Animal Crossing numbers?

I think everyone expected something more from PLvsAA; personally, I expected two times the numbers is doing. Terrible Level-5 marketing, disappeared for a whole year, plus Layton popularity declining are the reasons, I think.

As for Animal Crossing, no one expected such big numbers; imagine that Nintendo was going to ship just 200k units the first week.

 

[Scum]

That's downright cheating, that is! lol

 

[orioto]

Yeah if there isn't any stock problem (which seems the case), WiiU is in trouble. When there is a week like that and almost every console sees a raise (even the Vita had a 50% raise) and this is the only one dropping... If you remove the Christmas week general effect, that's a big drop.

 

[Sleepy]

3DS couldn't even match its first holiday. Bomba.

And yet, it sold more this year than last.

I think everyone expected something more from PLvsAA; personally, I expected two times the numbers is doing. Terrible Level-5 marketing, disappeared for a whole year, plus Layton popularity declining are the reasons, I think.

As for Animal Crossing, no one expected such big numbers; imagine that Nintendo was going to ship just 200k units the first week.

Anyone here played the PL vs AA game?

So the shortages did have an affect on sales for AC and now N and consumers are making up for it? So pent-up demand driving sales or normal buying patterns?

 

[Celine]

PSP still selling. When does the PSP2 come out?

It's already out.
It is the handheld that ite receiving all the new MH games.

 

[zroid]

This is fantastic

 

[The Horror the horror]

The Wii U will be fine in Japan. No next-gen competition yet and current-gen consoles, namely the PS3 and Vita, aren't a threat. The software will be rolling in soon to sustain its numbers for the entire 2013 calendar year. It would be nice if Nintendo could improve their digital offerings and reinforce the Wii U's young library with old school games.

The West is another story, for another thread...

 

[onilink88]

Wii U numbers are okay, I guess. But January's going to be a fucking train wreck for sure.

 

[Alrus]

Inazuma Eleven Go 2 is doing quite a bit better than the first one. Level 5 at least managed to stop the decline a little bit. It will never reach the levels of the DS games again but at least it should do decently. Not being sandwiched in between 3 huge games helped I guess.

I wonder if Layton 6 will also improve on Layton 5...

 

[Scum]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Nintendo should use the eShop/Virtual Console to plug the holes. Many Gamecube games on there will do nicely, for a start.

 

[BowieZ]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Nintendo should use the eShop/Virtual Console to plug the holes. Many Gamecube games on there will do nicely, for a start.

Don't forget DS

 

[Nekki]

I think I'll be more concerned if Wii U is sub-100K next week, and very concerned if it's sub-80. I don't think that they can afford to be crashing 4 weeks in.

With these numbers, there is no doubt Wii U will be sub 100k next week. I'd bet on sub 80k as well.

It has had an okay to good launch, but what's to come is what is worrisome. Nintendo should have learned by now that a large period with no releases should never happen, especially AFTER a console is launched.

 

[electroplankton]

So the shortages did have an affect on sales for AC and now N and consumers are making up for it? So pent-up demand driving sales or normal buying patterns?

Well, I do think AC is still having supply problems.

 

[DragonSworne]

With these numbers, there is no doubt Wii U will be sub 100k next week. I'd bet on sub 80k as well.

It has had an okay to good launch, but what's to come is what is worrisome. Nintendo should have learned by now that a large period with no releases should never happen, especially AFTER a console is launched.

Lol no

 

[Sleepy]

Well, I do think AC is still having supply problems.

Holy shit. AC should sell tons for weeks then as supply starts to roll out.

 

[Mpl90]

Well, I do think AC is still having supply problems.

You just have to look at Amazon: it's still being sold at around 6,400 Yen, when its price is 4,800 Yen. XD

 

[Malvingt2]

Well, I do think AC is still having supply problems.

no way...

 

[Scum]

Holy shit. AC should sell tons for weeks then as supply starts to roll out.

no way...

I think it's because they're specially made (EEPROM?) cartridges. Designed that way to keep track of the Holiday events in the game. I might be wrong though.

Edit - That doesn't mean it's not a popular game, though! lol

 

[-KRS-]

Wow I had no idea that AC was so popular in Japan. I mean, I know it usually sells pretty well but Jesus Christ. That chart gif blew my mind. Anyone have the numbers for the previous games? Sorry if I missed it if it was already posted.

 

[schuelma]

With these numbers, there is no doubt Wii U will be sub 100k next week. I'd bet on sub 80k as well.

It has had an okay to good launch, but what's to come is what is worrisome. Nintendo should have learned by now that a large period with no releases should never happen, especially AFTER a console is launched.

Yeah I don't know if its arrogance, disinterest, or development delays, but not having any first party titles dated right now and having Pikmin and Wii Fit listed for Spring is baffling.

There was always going to be a lull, but Nintendo's first party output is already falling behind Wii's 2006/ early 2007 lineup.

 

[LOCK]

Very good week for Nintendo. I'm just going to assume that Nintendo just isn't supplying Japan with a butt load of units, but really that will be settled over the next few weeks.

And as for the next set of weekly numbers, I doubt the drops on week 52 will be that drastic since the way the holidays fall on the calendar. This also would mean that week 1 won't receive gigantic increases like normal.

 

[ksamedi]

So Wii U has for the next couple of months:

Wii Fit U
Pikmin 3
Game & Wario
Dragon Quest X

+ long legs for Mario and Nintendoland, maybe Monster Hunter.

I really don't think it will do bad in the next 3 months.

 

[electroplankton]

You just have to look at Amazon: it's still being sold at around 6,400 Yen, when its price is 4,800 Yen. XD

That's why I'm saying we could see 100k weeks after holidays in January for AC.

 

[schuelma]

So Wii U has for the next couple of months:

Wii Fit U
Pikmin 3
Game & Wario
Dragon Quest X

+ long legs for Mario and Nintendoland, maybe Monster Hunter.

I really don't think it will do bad in the next 3 months.

But we have no idea if those are coming in the next 3 months. Only Wario is described as Early 2013- the other 3 are Spring.

 

[DragonSworne]

I'm predicting that by the end of January, Wii U will have sold more than Vita LTD.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

So Wii U has for the next couple of months:

Wii Fit U
Pikmin 3
Game & Wario
Dragon Quest X

+ long legs for Mario and Nintendoland, maybe Monster Hunter.

I really don't think it will do bad in the next 3 months.

I think it won't do badly as well, but for sure it could do with a few more games, that hopefully are going to be announced before long in a Nintendo direct event.

 

[Durante]

I'm predicting that by the end of January, Wii U will have sold more than Vita LTD.

You are expecting Wii U to sell 650k in the next 5 weeks?

 

[DragonSworne]

You are expecting Wii U to sell 650k in the next 5 weeks?

Yes

 

[ASIS]

I think it won't do badly as well, but for sure it could do with a few more games, that hopefully are going to be announced before long in a Nintendo direct event.

When can we expect a Nintendo direct? New Years?

 

[thestopsign]

Basically Nintendo needs to get out Wii Fit U and Wario Ware in the first two months of 2013, and realistically I can only see Wario being out in Q1. Wii Fit U will most likely be towards the end of March or closer to Golden Week, and Pikmin 3 will be May/June. Other than those games, I don't see anything with Japanese appeal. The Wonderful 101 could do 100k, maybe.

Edit: A Nintendo Direct before New Years wouldn't surprise me.

Edit #2: DragonSworne, lets not get bias blinded here. You need to dial it back on the Nintendo optimism.

 

[Chris1964]

I'm predicting that by the end of January, Wii U will have sold more than Vita LTD.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45773257&postcount=1077

 

[Celine]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45773257&postcount=1077

Lol.
He indeed need lot of luck.

 

[Scum]

Yes

That's a bold statement!
Not going to happen, though. Unless NCL has a surprise up its sleeve...

 

[Coolwhip]

Wii U numbers are okay, I guess. But January's going to be a fucking train wreck for sure.

That's hardly surprising for january.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

You are expecting Wii U to sell 650k in the next 5 weeks?

Actually the difference between Vita and Wii U should be around 550k, if I'm doing the maths correctly.

 

[DragonSworne]

The next two weeks should see Wii U selling over 300-400k.

The remaining 3 weeks in January te Wii U will only need to sell 80-100k a week.

Seems more than doable

 

[bigtroyjon]

Actually the difference between Vita and Wii U should be around 550k, if I'm doing the maths correctly.

As bad as the Vita is selling, its not selling 0 units a week.

 

[Nekki]

Yeah I don't know if its arrogance, disinterest, or development delays, but not having any first party titles dated right now and having Pikmin and Wii Fit listed for Spring is baffling.

There was always going to be a lull, but Nintendo's first party output is already falling behind Wii's 2006/ early 2007 lineup.

I don't think it's either arrogance or disinterest. Nintendo should be seeing the japanese market for what it is already by now. Maybe they failed in its vision, or they're just doing the best they can.

Consoles are second place to handhelds, they won't move as much as they used to (unless general consumer tastes have a radical change again) and so it is harder to amass a number of sales that comes close to the previous generation.

Then there's the problem of third-party support, obviously third parties have become more and more weary of where to put their games. Just look at 3DS and Vita. 3DS, while not having such a hard time as Vita, was still being doubted by 3rd parties. Vita... yeah. Wii was generally overlooked by third parties until they started to wise up and not even then did they took advantage of it to its full potential.

Wii U.. it's still too early to tell, but I think Nintendo should be more aggressive.

 

[Chris1964]

The next two weeks should see Wii U selling over 300-400k.

The remaining 3 weeks Wii will only need to sell 80-100k.

Seems more than doable

Seems you need some sleep.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

I'm predicting that by the end of January, Wii U will have sold more than Vita LTD.

Worldwide?
It should be there already by now, or may catch up with it by early 2013.

Japan-wise?
I reckon that's a very bold prediction.

 

[Sadist]

Poor Dragonsworne

 

[guek]

Next gen Nintendo console announced at e3. They can sweep wiiu under the rug. Most people think its a wii peripheral anyway.

Why is it that some people can be relatively rational when it comes to other topics but then go full tard when talking about one or two select companies or franchises? If it was anyone other than big_z, I'd assume this was a bad joke rather than an exercise in delusion. I'm just glad heavy got his foot placed squarely in his mouth, though it looks like he's trying to yet again absolve himself.

Anywho, I wouldn't say the wii u really "dropped" at all. A 4k discrepancy doesn't mean squat unless you're called the Vita. But regardless, a hold in week 51 isn't necessarily encouraging either. I'm going to echo other people's sentiments that we're going to see a sharp decline in January once the holidays are over. I think it'll still consistently outsell all the other consoles (likely combined, even) but the numbers will look weak within historical context of PS2 era console sales and modern handhelds. I'm curious whether the decline will just be further evidence of a withdrawal from consoles in japan or a symptom of the anemic release list. Likely both, tbh.

I'm also surprised no one has brought up the possibility of deluxe sku shortages having an impact on these numbers. Iwata has openly stated that there have been shortages specifically for that sku, not necessarily the console as a whole. It's possible that the numbers could have been marginally higher had nintendo either gone with a single sku model or just made more deluxes relative to basics.

 

[Mpl90]

The next two weeks should see Wii U selling over 300-400k.

The remaining 3 weeks in January te Wii U will only need to sell 80-100k a week.

Seems more than doable

Ok, you just don't know what you're talking about. I'm glad we got a nice confirmation about this so soon and all, because this makes things much easier for us.

 

[ASIS]

The next two weeks should see Wii U selling over 300-400k.

The remaining 3 weeks in January te Wii U will only need to sell 80-100k a week.

Seems more than doable

.. How?
I we take last week as the average then two weeks will yield, at best, 250K. There is no way Wii U will only drop 17-18% in three weeks time.