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The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey |OT| In a hole there lived a hobbit SPOILERS

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Edmond Dantès;45974968 said:
The DVD screener has been leaked.

Damn thats pretty quick, these days you dont seem to get many leaked but for such a high profile release its pretty big.

Before anyone suggests otherwise i have already gone to see it in 3d HFR (which was amazing overall) so there :P
 
This has probably already been answered but... bear with me:

How will we be able to watch this movie (or others) in 48 fps in home cinema format? Will you need special equipment and if yes is that already out?
 
I saw the movie, and aside from getting a splitting headache about two hours in (it wasn't the movie's fault; I had a slight headache when I went in and it was almost inevitable), I enjoyed it. I preferred the Lord of the Ring movies, though. They seemed like they had more room to breath.

But between all the Lord of the Rings topics and watching the movie (and rewatching the extended editions a few months ago), I really need to reread The Hobbit + The Lord of the Rings. I haven't read them since 2003 or 2004.
 
This has probably already been answered but... bear with me:

How will we be able to watch this movie (or others) in 48 fps in home cinema format? Will you need special equipment and if yes is that already out?

Don't quote me on this, but from what I've been able to gather, TVs/BD players currently don't support the 48fps format.
 
I quoted you but don't worry :P yeah that's what i was afraid of hmmm so it will likely be new equipment alltogether again later on then...

Blu-Ray players could conceivably get a firmware update, if they update the Blu-Ray specification to support 48 fps. Of course, the PS3 is probably the most likely player to get updated.

240 Hz televisions technically could support 48 fps, since 48*5=240, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
240 Hz televisions technically could support 48 fps, since 48*5=240, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Don't think this is a technically. A 240hz tv should accept a 48hz video source. It's not like TVs aren't just glorified computer monitors these days, they accept a lot of widely varying video formats.
 
I watched the Hobbit for a second time a few days back. Caught it in 3D HFR and thought the image quality was fantastic. The 3D was nothing special at all, but the clarity was wonderful. The great visuals didn't help with the other problems with the film, but I'm glad I was able to see it in the HFR format.
 
Never read the books, and only Tolkien experience is the Lotr trilogy, I loved this film.

Loved seeing all the different races and armies and can't wait to see the next instalment .
 
Ok got my tickets for HFR 3D and catching this movie for the first time tonight, yes it's dubbed (German, HFR 3D OV really nowhere available) but the german dubbings of the LotR movies were excellent.
Will post my thoughts on HFR, 3D and the movie later on.
 
I thought this was pretty good. Figured I'd post it in here.

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I have to say, the first 50 minutes was absolutely boring as heck. Seriously, this movie would have been so much better at 2 hours, more so than any of the LOTR.

After that it was pretty good, some areas of great. CGI looks better than before, Gollum was awesome.
 
I have to say, the first 50 minutes was absolutely boring as heck. Seriously, this movie would have been so much better at 2 hours, more so than any of the LOTR.

After that it was pretty good, some areas of great. CGI looks better than before, Gollum was awesome.

I agree. Such a slow start, they really fumbled with the Dwarf intro scene. Was ment to be playful and fun, but was just kind of corny and slow.

Saw it in HFR 3D and I think it just looked kinda cheap, and took away from the dream-like quality of LOTR.
 
Yeah, it's not a slight against you, but I just don't get how that comic is supposed to be funny. But then again I haven't really found PA to be particularly funny in quite some time.

I think the punchline is the fact that in the movies/books, the horses are pretty non chalant as fuck in the presence of Shadowfax.
 
Yeah, it's not a slight against you, but I just don't get how that comic is supposed to be funny. But then again I haven't really found PA to be particularly funny in quite some time.

The implied joke being that Shadowfax is the Lord of all Horses, and yet still only a horse. That's how I read it, anyway. That's always sort of bothered me in the movies, how Shadowfax is a Lord in name only. Otherwise he's treated like any other horse - put up in the smelly stables and everything.
 
I think you're all reading that PA comic wrong. It's a simple commentary on celebrity worship in our culture, except with horses instead of humans, and Shadowfax instead of, say, Justin Bieber. It's not very original, but it is slightly amusing.
 
The implied joke being that Shadowfax is the Lord of all Horses, and yet still only a horse. That's how I read it, anyway. That's always sort of bothered me in the movies, how Shadowfax is a Lord in name only. Otherwise he's treated like any other horse - put up in the smelly stables and everything.

Well, Theoden was king of Rohan and also lived in a smelly stable, so Shadowfax shouldn't complain.

Technically Saruman referred to it as a 'thatched barn' and not a 'smelly stable', but whatever :p
 
I think you're all reading that PA comic wrong. It's a simple commentary on celebrity worship in our culture, except with horses instead of humans, and Shadowfax instead of, say, Justin Bieber. It's not very original, but it is slightly amusing.

Yeah, I think it's being slightly over-analyzed.
 
I have to say, the first 50 minutes was absolutely boring as heck. Seriously, this movie would have been so much better at 2 hours, more so than any of the LOTR.

After that it was pretty good, some areas of great. CGI looks better than before, Gollum was awesome.

First 50 was my favorite part, and what I thought best captured the spirit of the book. Hmm.
 
This has probably already been answered but... bear with me:

How will we be able to watch this movie (or others) in 48 fps in home cinema format? Will you need special equipment and if yes is that already out?
My guess is that it'll be converted to 60FPS using the telecine process, basically the same thing they've done for eons with 24FPS film to convert it to 30FPS.
 
I wish it had started with Gandalf taking to young Bilbo, and the dragon stuff could be flash backed to when the dwarves do their song. You don't need to set up old Bilbo when anyone who knows that character will key in on the name, and the fact that he's meeting Gandalf for essentially the first time.
 
Saw it for a third and possibly last time. The HFR is still amazing to me, and it baffles me how it was terrible for so many people, including, seemingly, the majority of critics.

As for the movie itself, it remains slightly problematic and I think that it's far more "mainstream" than Lord of the Rings was, but it seems that in every screening I go to, people love it.

I think that as expectations are leveled (make no mistake, the expectation were impossibly high since Lord of the Rings) this will be seen as a great movie, just not as great as the trilogy.
 
Finally saw this tonight and i must say i was surprised at how much i enjoyed it. There seemed to be a lot of negativity surrounding the movie but frankly i loved it. Was it as good as the original LOTR? Maybe not but then again they may well be my favorite films of all time. I don't put this on the same level but it wasn't that far off and i feel like it will benefit from the release of the other movies in the trilogy.

I have to say, the first 50 minutes was absolutely boring as heck. Seriously, this movie would have been so much better at 2 hours, more so than any of the LOTR.

After that it was pretty good, some areas of great. CGI looks better than before, Gollum was awesome.

I really enjoyed the first 50 minutes. The only part of the movie that dragged for me and felt like it shouldn't have been there was the
radagast
part of the story.
 
Loved the film. The only thing that threw me slightly was how it looks just like LotRs, has some of the same characters as LotRs and yet is a LOT more light hearted and jokey than LotRs.

Im not saying this is a bad thing.... its just something that was always on my mind through out the film.

Just started reading the Hobbit and am up to where Bilbo is about to meet Golem. The last time I read this I must have been about 9 so over 20 years ago. After reading just this much (about 25% of the book) im actually amazed that the film isn't more light hearted than it is because its very clearly a book targeted at children.

I also find it kinda hard to go from brutal evil, don't no need to talk and they will be your death trolls from LotRs to talking big dumb dumbs of the Hobbit. Its kinda hard to accept these are 2 stories set in the same world..... even though they are.

None of this stuff makes me not like the film. I really really liked it. Its just always there on my mind.
 
I read the book a couple days ago. My second time, first being before the LOTR movies came out, though I had read the graphic novel years before that.

I found it interesting how I didn't insert any of the movie actors in my mind while I pictured the characters, rather reverting moreso to how they looked in that graphic novel. Generally more cartoony representations, considering that's how the dwarves were described, at least. Just a color tacked to a tunic and a pointy hat for each. I sorta find the "realness" of the movie offputting now, after it. The hobbit is much more fun to me when the dwarves all look like David the Gnome, and everyone's just having a gay old time.

I did like, though, how the goblins in the movie were less like the LOTR orcs. After reading the book again, and perhaps this is also due to reverting to graphic-novel imagery in my mind, I picture the goblins as less humanoid. More crouchy, smaller, less obviously "dudes in makeup." A little more gollumey. I think the movie did a great job changing up their look, it makes the LOTR orcs (and those second-in-command goblins in the Hobbit movie) look positively silly to me now.

And gimme Gandalf with silver scarf and big black boots, dagnabbit!
 
Well i have returned from a viewing of the hobbit, i wont post a review because at this point I dont think I have anything original to say. The film was good, well acted, nostalgic but it did have some pacing issues. Hard to rate it as a singular film among the prior 3, but at a stretch I would say I liked it more than the Two Towers but less than the fellowship and rotk. I can post a more detailed analysis but like I say theres nothing new I can add to the discussion.
 
Well i have returned from a viewing of the hobbit, i wont post a review because at this point I dont think I have anything original to say. The film was good, well acted, nostalgic but it did have some pacing issues. Hard to rate it as a singular film among the prior 3, but at a stretch I would say I liked it more than the Two Towers but less than the fellowship and rotk. I can post a more detailed analysis but like I say theres nothing new I can add to the discussion.
Did it meet your expectations?
 
Edmond Dantès;46019444 said:
Did it meet your expectations?

I was expecting to be dissapointed and I was not, I found myself thinking all the way through "oh i see why some people might dislike this" (this is purely from a storytelling point of view as I saw it in 2d 24fps) but I never myself disliked it. I did not think Mckellen was as good a he was in the LOTR films, not sure why but some of his deliveries felt strange, as if he put the wrong emphasis on words. Thorin I thought was magnificent and he and Bilbo's relationship felt like the real heartbeat of the film, especially the end. Bilbo was great, the council was great, Rivendell was great, the prologue and flashbacks were wonderful. Infact i think my highlight of the film, other than the ending between Bilbo and Thorin, was the prologue explaining the ruin of Erebor.

Downsides like I say Mckellen I never really felt got absorbed by Gandalf like he did in the LOTR, many of the dwarves felt completely misc to everything, but those that did get significant screen time were very good. Goblin Town was iffy, someone in another thread described it as a car chase without the cars and thats better than I ever could have described it. There comes a point where you get the feeling the cgi is showing off rather than impressing. Radaghast and the side story I thought was incredibly interesting, as was the white council.

Ill need to rewatch it but I have no qualms putting it on the same tier as the LOTR films on first viewing, very very relieved the spirit was captured.
 
I watched it yesterday (in 3D), and while I can understand all the criticism, I honestly loved it. A lot. It brought out the (inner?) child in me.

And the movie is gorgeous, goddamn.
 
This got me thinking, are there any monuments/locations of note located in Britain that are named after Tolkien?
In terms of the UK, a street in Eastbourne is named after him and a restaurant in Birmingham.

Nothing of major significance though. Most things in our country already have a name considering our history.

There are a plethora of monuments to Tolkien in this country though.
 
Characters' screentime.

Secondary characters

Gollum: 15:30 min.
Elrond: 12:30 min.
Azog: 9:30 min.
Radagast: 9:30 min.
Galadriel: 8 min.

Tertiary characters

Bert, Tom and William: 8 min.
Saruman: 5:30 min.
Old Bilbo: 4 min (without narration).
Goblin King: 3:30 min.
Frodo: 3 min.
Thror: 1:30 min.
Yazneg: 1:30 min.
Lindir: 1 min.

Cameos

Thranduil: 0:30 min.
Smaug: 0:20 min.
Goblin Scribe Evil: 0:15 min.
Witch King of Angmar: 0:10 min.
The Necromancer: 0:10 min.
Thrain: 0:05 min.
Bolg: 0:05 min.
 
Really looking forward to seeing more Thranduil in DOS, they nailed the look of the character. Even though he was only on screen for a few seconds in AUJ, I can already tell that Lee Pace was the perfect choice.
 
Edmond Dantès;46027046 said:
Characters' screentime.

Secondary characters

Gollum: 15:30 min.
Elrond: 12:30 min.
Azog: 9:30 min.
Radagast: 9:30 min.
Galadriel: 8 min.

Tertiary characters

Bert, Tom and William: 8 min.
Saruman: 5:30 min.
Old Bilbo: 4 min (without narration).
Goblin King: 3:30 min.
Frodo: 3 min.
Thror: 1:30 min.
Yazneg: 1:30 min.
Lindir: 1 min.

Cameos

Thranduil: 0:30 min.
Smaug: 0:20 min.
Goblin Scribe Evil: 0:15 min.
Witch King of Angmar: 0:10 min.
The Necromancer: 0:10 min.
Thrain: 0:05 min.
Bolg: 0:05 min.

Man that random Witch King appearance was goofy, he was not scary at all.

So Yazneg was actually still in the film?
 
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