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E3 Hype Begins.... Who Really Needs to Bring It Hard This E3?
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dragonflys545
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Happens every year.
shinobi602
Member
A next gen console from either Sony or MS automatically makes it 10x better than the past five E3's combined lol. No disappointment here.
RyanReedyMusic
Banned
There will always be HYPE........................ALWAYS
Steelyuhas
Member
Nintendo needs to bring it to show me why their console/platform doesn't become irrelevant once the Xbox and PS4 drop.
I'm very excited to see the new Xbox though.
I'm very excited to see the new Xbox though.
What if Xbox 540 and PS3.5
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Still 6 months...
Half of a year...
so many weeks...
so many days...
so many hours...
minutes...
seconds...
And in the end.
It will all be for NOTHING!
E3 HYPE YEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHH
Half of a year...
so many weeks...
so many days...
so many hours...
minutes...
seconds...
And in the end.
It will all be for NOTHING!
E3 HYPE YEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHH
secretanchitman
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EVERYONE, not just nintendo, sony, and microsoft, needs to bring their fucking A game this time, but it honestly wouldnt surprise me if they didnt. its so annoying watching E3 every year and its the same old embarrassing crap.
Hydrogen Bluebird
Member
I don't think anyone can afford not to bring it.
Nintendo - According to analysts the Wii U is under performing and I know it's anecdotal but from what I saw it was only supply constrained for the first few weeks if that which is never a good sign. If they want to move hardware they are going to need killer software. While I am sure they will have some success with first party software like the new Mario Galaxy equivalent, Mario Kart, Smash, and Zelda, I don't think they have enough in house development to afford software droughts like in previous generations.
They need to get 3rd parties on board and fast with original software and enhanced current gen ports but this doesn't seem to be happening. DQX and Monster Hunter may move some hardware in Japan but I don't think the system will be successful in the West. I think 3rd parties are transitioning from current gen to next gen and Wii U is a current gen machine so it won't get much support at all.
Sony - All signs point to MS launching this holiday, if that's true then E3 is going to be their big coming out party. If Sony is not unveiling a next gen hardware platform then they really are in a tough position and will lose E3 by default. They won't be able to generate a whole lot of excitement for the PS3 with all the fanfare over the next gen Xbox.
If they do unveil PS4 and they launch at the same time or after the Xbox they have to persuade consumers that their platform is worth buying instead of the Xbox and even worth waiting for. They are going to be scrutinized about specs, system features, backward compatibility, software, online infrastructure, and every other little thing. Is Sony ready to leverage what few advantages they have over the competition? I'm not confident they can go head to head with MS and steal the spotlight.
There have been so few rumors and leaks about PS4 that I am more inclined to think won't be launching this year.
MS - They have momentum right now and if they beat Sony out of the gate that will carry them cause they'll have a full holiday season advantage. A lot of what I said about Sony and going head to head applies to MS as well, they are in direct competition for the same audience.
I'm not convinced MS is going to be ready to launch this fall either. A quality current gen game takes about two years give or take, so how long does a quality next gen game take to make?
I think MS is in a dangerous position because they have aspirations for the living room and that could cause the hardcore to abandon the Xbox platform if they don't feel like they are being catered to. I mean look at their press conferences, they have been awful for the last few years, they simply aren't speaking to the core audience that made their platform a success. I am all for Kinect 2, but if that device is packed in and as a result increases the price of their already presumably expensive console it might be a smart move long term as far as support for it goes but it could open the door for Sony.
PSN has almost achieved feature parity with Live and offers a great pay service in PS+. Live is going to have to up it's game if they want consumers to keep paying for it and they will need to make some changes to the platform as a whole. The indie community has a lot of issues with the current certification and patching processes on Live and as a result the advantage that Live Arcade had in the digital space is gone. I also feel like Sony does a better job of cherry picking interesting indie games to bring to their platform in the latter half of this gen as well. Will MS be ready with a truly next generation Live platform or will they release an even shittier version with more ads and more cluttered menus to wade through before I can get to what I want?
I'd say the biggest thing they need to worry about though is the Steambox because they are competing for the same market. There is a lot of overlap with the software libraries and if Steam provides a universal experience of purchasing once and playing on both the Steambox and PC platforms then they are going to take a lot of marketshare from MS. That goes for Sony to a lesser extent but for many people either platform wouldn't offer a real value other than for exclusive titles which will be few and far between even more so next gen.
It's going to be a bloodbath this gen, with dev costs going up both publishers and console makers have almost no room for error. They have to compete with each other, and devices like the Apple TV and probably something from Google sometime during this next gen in addition to Valve. When the dust settles I don't think Nintendo will be in the console hardware game, I doubt Sony will, and MS really can't afford any major missteps if they want to stay on top.
Nintendo - According to analysts the Wii U is under performing and I know it's anecdotal but from what I saw it was only supply constrained for the first few weeks if that which is never a good sign. If they want to move hardware they are going to need killer software. While I am sure they will have some success with first party software like the new Mario Galaxy equivalent, Mario Kart, Smash, and Zelda, I don't think they have enough in house development to afford software droughts like in previous generations.
They need to get 3rd parties on board and fast with original software and enhanced current gen ports but this doesn't seem to be happening. DQX and Monster Hunter may move some hardware in Japan but I don't think the system will be successful in the West. I think 3rd parties are transitioning from current gen to next gen and Wii U is a current gen machine so it won't get much support at all.
Sony - All signs point to MS launching this holiday, if that's true then E3 is going to be their big coming out party. If Sony is not unveiling a next gen hardware platform then they really are in a tough position and will lose E3 by default. They won't be able to generate a whole lot of excitement for the PS3 with all the fanfare over the next gen Xbox.
If they do unveil PS4 and they launch at the same time or after the Xbox they have to persuade consumers that their platform is worth buying instead of the Xbox and even worth waiting for. They are going to be scrutinized about specs, system features, backward compatibility, software, online infrastructure, and every other little thing. Is Sony ready to leverage what few advantages they have over the competition? I'm not confident they can go head to head with MS and steal the spotlight.
There have been so few rumors and leaks about PS4 that I am more inclined to think won't be launching this year.
MS - They have momentum right now and if they beat Sony out of the gate that will carry them cause they'll have a full holiday season advantage. A lot of what I said about Sony and going head to head applies to MS as well, they are in direct competition for the same audience.
I'm not convinced MS is going to be ready to launch this fall either. A quality current gen game takes about two years give or take, so how long does a quality next gen game take to make?
I think MS is in a dangerous position because they have aspirations for the living room and that could cause the hardcore to abandon the Xbox platform if they don't feel like they are being catered to. I mean look at their press conferences, they have been awful for the last few years, they simply aren't speaking to the core audience that made their platform a success. I am all for Kinect 2, but if that device is packed in and as a result increases the price of their already presumably expensive console it might be a smart move long term as far as support for it goes but it could open the door for Sony.
PSN has almost achieved feature parity with Live and offers a great pay service in PS+. Live is going to have to up it's game if they want consumers to keep paying for it and they will need to make some changes to the platform as a whole. The indie community has a lot of issues with the current certification and patching processes on Live and as a result the advantage that Live Arcade had in the digital space is gone. I also feel like Sony does a better job of cherry picking interesting indie games to bring to their platform in the latter half of this gen as well. Will MS be ready with a truly next generation Live platform or will they release an even shittier version with more ads and more cluttered menus to wade through before I can get to what I want?
I'd say the biggest thing they need to worry about though is the Steambox because they are competing for the same market. There is a lot of overlap with the software libraries and if Steam provides a universal experience of purchasing once and playing on both the Steambox and PC platforms then they are going to take a lot of marketshare from MS. That goes for Sony to a lesser extent but for many people either platform wouldn't offer a real value other than for exclusive titles which will be few and far between even more so next gen.
It's going to be a bloodbath this gen, with dev costs going up both publishers and console makers have almost no room for error. They have to compete with each other, and devices like the Apple TV and probably something from Google sometime during this next gen in addition to Valve. When the dust settles I don't think Nintendo will be in the console hardware game, I doubt Sony will, and MS really can't afford any major missteps if they want to stay on top.
Clay Davis
Member
I feel your anger, but all of those disappointments, embarrassing moments, usher singing have been leading to this one single moment where everyone brings their A game and blows our collective mind with their awe inspiring new ips, new consoles, new mario and so on and so forth.
it's going to be one hell of a ride and I cannot wait.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
N-No.... must... not... hype...!I feel your anger, but all of those disappointments, embarrassing moments, usher singing have been leading to this one single moment where everyone brings their A game and blows our collective mind with their awe inspiring new ips, new consoles, new mario and so on and so forth.
it's going to be one hell of a ride and I cannot wait.
polyh3dron
Banned
I'd have to agree. Nintendo is gonna have to show us some downright amazing games for their soon-to-be-a-generation-behind-technologically Wii U console. If not, they are so fucked.
IrishNinja
Member
i want to agree, but i'm still inclined to safe levels of pessimism!
so reading this post i take you have internal information about ninteneos plans up to e3?
polyh3dron
Banned
Yeah, how long DOES it take to up the resolution, textures, frame rate, AA and effects on Far Cry 3
It'd probably double the budget and take another year right, oh wait
wow so a grim picture for all three platforms.. but i have to agree withbthe risks you have pointed out.
DR2K
Banned
Nintendo will show one game that we want, then spend the rest of the conference on, "see we're not failing that hard" graphs.
Sony will show some games no one will buy. They'll all look amazing, then spend the rest of the conference showing off Wonderbook for PS4. Vita who?
Microsoft will have a live conert for some artist no one gives a shit about, some 3rd party DLC timed exclusives, and some game that might only be on Xbox.
They all need to bring it. Nintendo has to show the world what a WiiU is, and why they should stop buying a DS and upgrade to the 3D one. Microsoft and Sony are going to be trying to 1up each other with next gen.
Sony will show some games no one will buy. They'll all look amazing, then spend the rest of the conference showing off Wonderbook for PS4. Vita who?
Microsoft will have a live conert for some artist no one gives a shit about, some 3rd party DLC timed exclusives, and some game that might only be on Xbox.
They all need to bring it. Nintendo has to show the world what a WiiU is, and why they should stop buying a DS and upgrade to the 3D one. Microsoft and Sony are going to be trying to 1up each other with next gen.
Mushroomer25
Member
Microsoft is going to make a big show out of their new machine, and pretty much rely on the multiplats (as usual). We will be getting a SHITTON of multiplat announcements though, at their conference. But at front-and-center will still be Kinect & multimedia initiatives.
Sony's in an interesting spot, since I doubt the PS4 is even releasing this year. They'll reveal it for sure - but with less details than may be expected.
Nintendo is going to be the one to watch. They have a metric ton of software that has been in the works for ages - and it's all gonna be center-stage. Also, real 3DS revision. No second stick though.
Sony's in an interesting spot, since I doubt the PS4 is even releasing this year. They'll reveal it for sure - but with less details than may be expected.
Nintendo is going to be the one to watch. They have a metric ton of software that has been in the works for ages - and it's all gonna be center-stage. Also, real 3DS revision. No second stick though.
I don't remember seeing any graphs in any of the big 3 conferences in years. E3 isn't an investor meeting.
SMG 1 and 2 running at 60fps is already impressive enough. Hard to imagine what the next-gen game will look like.
secretanchitman
Member
I feel your anger, but all of those disappointments, embarrassing moments, usher singing have been leading to this one single moment where everyone brings their A game and blows our collective mind with their awe inspiring new ips, new consoles, new mario and so on and so forth.
it's going to be one hell of a ride and I cannot wait.
you're right. im just angry because the last few E3's were disappointing to say the least, especially last years E3 imo.
who am i kidding though, this years E3 has me really (but cautiously) excited and ill be on the neogaf hype train like everyone else. smash bros, zelda 3DS, mgs5/the phantom pain, mgs ground zeroes, ps4 and 720 reveals? possibly could be the best E3 ever.
pieatorium
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Yeah its been pretty shitty recently but with at leaset one new console possibly 2 and then whatever nintendo has up it's sleves to try and outhype that is reason to get excited. and thats not even thinking about what third parties could be bringing.
in other words GET HYPE
I don't agree with that, I feel like Valve is probably the only console manufacturer that doesn't need to impress. Even if all they did was bring Steam as a platform to TVs through a dedicated box and it functioned exactly as it does now they would find a sustainable level of success.
I however think they are smarter and better than that. If Valve has shown one thing it's that they care about and focus on gamers and features that matter to them first. I posted on a simpler topic a while ago, it reads like a love letter to Steam but it's the features that are important. Since the time of that posting they have also released a great mobile app and send you notifications when a game on your wishlist is on sale. Those are great forward thinking consumer focused features that make the platform even better than it already was compared to the competition.
You know they will support a Steambox with their own first party software and will have some level of 3rd party support. I don't think they'll come out of the gates as strong as the competition unless they launch with a Steambox exclusive in HL3 or Portal 3 to really get some mainstream consumer interest. I think they will start slow but as the gen goes longer people will familiarize themselves with Steam and how great it is and decide to adopt the platform.
As long as Valve continues on their current trajectory I think they will be viable player in the console market by default. If leveraged, features like cross platform play and universal applications/cross buy could really set them apart from the competition in addition to all the advantages they currently already have. They should be feared by all.
They were back in the day (they even had that George Harrison guy whose only job was to present graphs) but there haven't really been any of it in the last four or so years.
Not Nintendo.
Why, because Nintendo is using their Directs for disseminating information.
And they can use them to steal thunder from any E3 announcements.
They will also have more games playable on the floor than the other two.
The pressure is really on Microsoft.
The expectation is that they will launch in 2013.
So they have to bring the goods.
Can they offer a system with games that will finally bring them on top?
If not, they will play second fiddle to Sony whenever they decide to launch.
Sony has already proven that their brand can be sold at a premium price,
and still catch up sales wise to a big competitor (Microsoft) with a year head start.
All Sony has to do is tease a new console this E3, and launch it in 2014.
Why, because Nintendo is using their Directs for disseminating information.
And they can use them to steal thunder from any E3 announcements.
They will also have more games playable on the floor than the other two.
The pressure is really on Microsoft.
The expectation is that they will launch in 2013.
So they have to bring the goods.
Can they offer a system with games that will finally bring them on top?
If not, they will play second fiddle to Sony whenever they decide to launch.
Sony has already proven that their brand can be sold at a premium price,
and still catch up sales wise to a big competitor (Microsoft) with a year head start.
All Sony has to do is tease a new console this E3, and launch it in 2014.
What you're talking about is not a real next gen game if that is all you expect. I don't doubt that a lot of the launch lineup will be 360 and PS3 games with a slightly better coat of paint, it always takes a couple years before before we see what the machines are really capable of. I expect amazing physics, destructible environments, better AI, bigger battlefields with more going on, more everything, and that shit doesn't come cheap.
Despite your smart ass reply if you don't think the cost of next gen development is going to increase significantly you are wrong. If a AAA title doesn't hit it could have serious financial consequences for not only the developers but the publishers as well. This gen had a lot of casualties and publishers will absolutely have to take bigger gambles next gen. I mean Midway and THQ went down this gen, I personally am not very confident that middling publishers like Konami, Capcom, Square, Namco, and Sega are going to be around in 10 years.
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
Wii U and Vita.
Nintendo have the most to prove this E3 as they really need to push Wii U from what has been a less than impressive launch in terms of market reaction. I love the Wii U already, I feel like it's a huge step up from the Wii and everybody I've invited over to play Nintendo Land with (typical Wii Sports audience) says the same.
The potential is there, Nintendo just need the software. I think E3 for Nintendo will revolve around 3 main things:
Digital/Online services like Miiverse across devices including major firmware updates to the 3DS and Wii U to include things like cross platform multiplayer (smash bros.), NNID's on 3DS and games transferable across devices, faster OS, new Virtual Console service for Wii U etc.
3DS games like Zelda and probably a couple of unannounced games for the holidays along with 3rd party titles. Maybe a Smash Bros. tease.
Wii U games A showing of Q3/Q4 2013 titles and maybe a couple of Q1/Q2 2014 titles. Games like Wii Sports U (probably their biggest focus), 3D Mario, a Retro Studios developed game and also maybe a Monster Games developed racing title. They may also tease Mario Kart for early 2014 and may start hyping Super Smash Bros. although I don't expect Smash until 2014 sometime. We'll also hopefully get a first look at some major 3rd party support for the system as the 3rd party exclusives and more meaningful support should have been targeted at Q4 2013 when the install base is large enough to support more volume.
I also predict a new peripheral will be shown for Wii U (could be another Zapper for example).
Sony are in an interesting position. The Vita needs support from Sony but the PS4 needs it more. I feel as though Sony will probably only show 3 major games for the Vita and none of them will be the amazing system seller that they need. They can't really move much here, they need the PS4 to be a success. On the topic of the PS4, we'll see quite a few games shown for it and also a new controller. Not sure what they'll do here, but I think that it'll be different enough to ensure that people will need to buy new controllers.
PS3 is still going to be a major focus though and I think it'll get some time (more than the Vita does) mainly on the third party games coming out for it and maybe one or two first party games (The Last Guardian?)
Also on the topic of the PS4, not sure if we'll get a price. Sony may not give one if Microsoft don't give one.
Microsoft is probably best positioned to steal the show for the mainstream with a new XBOX, unveiling of Destiny exclusive to Microsoft systems (if the agreement is still in place) and the reveal of a next generation powered Call of Duty. Interestingly though Black Ops 2 is the last game in the 3 year agreement with Activision for early DLC and advertising so another press conference COULD have Call of Duty present but it isn't likely.
I think Microsoft will show less games than Nintendo and Sony (particularly less exclusive games) with the next generation XBOX having a shit ton of media features and other such things that take time to explain.
It's going to be interesting to see where the chips fall in the end but one thing is for sure, the best games will win.
The potential is there, Nintendo just need the software. I think E3 for Nintendo will revolve around 3 main things:
Digital/Online services like Miiverse across devices including major firmware updates to the 3DS and Wii U to include things like cross platform multiplayer (smash bros.), NNID's on 3DS and games transferable across devices, faster OS, new Virtual Console service for Wii U etc.
3DS games like Zelda and probably a couple of unannounced games for the holidays along with 3rd party titles. Maybe a Smash Bros. tease.
Wii U games A showing of Q3/Q4 2013 titles and maybe a couple of Q1/Q2 2014 titles. Games like Wii Sports U (probably their biggest focus), 3D Mario, a Retro Studios developed game and also maybe a Monster Games developed racing title. They may also tease Mario Kart for early 2014 and may start hyping Super Smash Bros. although I don't expect Smash until 2014 sometime. We'll also hopefully get a first look at some major 3rd party support for the system as the 3rd party exclusives and more meaningful support should have been targeted at Q4 2013 when the install base is large enough to support more volume.
I also predict a new peripheral will be shown for Wii U (could be another Zapper for example).
Sony are in an interesting position. The Vita needs support from Sony but the PS4 needs it more. I feel as though Sony will probably only show 3 major games for the Vita and none of them will be the amazing system seller that they need. They can't really move much here, they need the PS4 to be a success. On the topic of the PS4, we'll see quite a few games shown for it and also a new controller. Not sure what they'll do here, but I think that it'll be different enough to ensure that people will need to buy new controllers.
PS3 is still going to be a major focus though and I think it'll get some time (more than the Vita does) mainly on the third party games coming out for it and maybe one or two first party games (The Last Guardian?)
Also on the topic of the PS4, not sure if we'll get a price. Sony may not give one if Microsoft don't give one.
Microsoft is probably best positioned to steal the show for the mainstream with a new XBOX, unveiling of Destiny exclusive to Microsoft systems (if the agreement is still in place) and the reveal of a next generation powered Call of Duty. Interestingly though Black Ops 2 is the last game in the 3 year agreement with Activision for early DLC and advertising so another press conference COULD have Call of Duty present but it isn't likely.
I think Microsoft will show less games than Nintendo and Sony (particularly less exclusive games) with the next generation XBOX having a shit ton of media features and other such things that take time to explain.
It's going to be interesting to see where the chips fall in the end but one thing is for sure, the best games will win.
michaelius
Banned
This should be biggest baddest E3 in years:
Nintendo needs to deliver Wii U games to show there's any point in buying it despite specifications and do something about slow sales of 3DS in west.
Sony - will have PS4 to show and they basically need to relunch PSV with new model, price cuts and their best franchises software.
Microsoft - will have next box to show
Nintendo needs to deliver Wii U games to show there's any point in buying it despite specifications and do something about slow sales of 3DS in west.
Sony - will have PS4 to show and they basically need to relunch PSV with new model, price cuts and their best franchises software.
Microsoft - will have next box to show
Nightstick11
Banned
All of them need to bring it. Desperately. They have to treat it like a game 7, particularly Sony.
Nintendo: They need to bring out all their games. Seriously, trailers and demos of Smash, Zelda, new IPs, MarioKart, etc., would deflate the sails of a Sony or Microsoft presentation, especially if the other two don't bring compelling games. This is Nintendo's best chance to land a haymaker on one of the other two.
Microsoft: Instead of that velocitygirl crap, Microsoft needs to reassure gamers that they aren't trying to make the Internet Explorer of consoles. Talk about that media hub crap for 20 minutes, then show games that appeal to all gamers, not just dudebros.
Sony: After the PS3's initial stumbles and the PS Vita, it goes without saying that Sony has to really impress. No Ridge Racer.
Nintendo: They need to bring out all their games. Seriously, trailers and demos of Smash, Zelda, new IPs, MarioKart, etc., would deflate the sails of a Sony or Microsoft presentation, especially if the other two don't bring compelling games. This is Nintendo's best chance to land a haymaker on one of the other two.
Microsoft: Instead of that velocitygirl crap, Microsoft needs to reassure gamers that they aren't trying to make the Internet Explorer of consoles. Talk about that media hub crap for 20 minutes, then show games that appeal to all gamers, not just dudebros.
Sony: After the PS3's initial stumbles and the PS Vita, it goes without saying that Sony has to really impress. No Ridge Racer.
GhostTrick
Banned
This year will be as disappointing as last year.
archnemesis
Member
Nothing more than what has been announced to the public and retail chains. Game releases are usually sparse for new systems and the list of games with confirmed release dates is extremely short. I'm not expecting Mario Kart, Smash Brothers or Zelda anytime soon nor any unannounced third-party exclusives. The initial hardware sales aren't great and they're not going to get better without a price drop or a system selling title. Just take a look at the Vita or the 3DS before they cut the price by 40%.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Nintendo has everything to lose this E3
this is when the Wii U will either look very ancient with the new powerhouses shown or they can show some amazing 1st Party Software to stay alive
this is when the Wii U will either look very ancient with the new powerhouses shown or they can show some amazing 1st Party Software to stay alive
Gianni Merryman
Member
Nintendo doesn't need E3 anymore, besides they cannot wait until E3 since no games has been announced for Q2-Q3 2013.
If we look back at last E3 Nintendo's conference was disapointing to say it the least, they said nothing about Wii U - and very little about 3DS too for that matter - still they delivered in a Nintendo direct after some time when they announced Bayonetta 2, Monster hunter ultimate and Rayman, so I am expecting a ND sometime in the next month or so, hopefully earlier than that.
A new IP or two and Mario Kart are possibilities but I'm sure we won't see Zelda and I don't think we'll see Smash Bros. They'll have too many other titles to talk about to fit them in and besides that, I don't think they'll be in a state that Nintendo will be happy to share with the public right now.
Smash hype is possible but unlikely. Nintendo Direct would be a better place to tease it considering the audience for Smash and the audience for Nintendo Direct. A big blow out for Smash and hopefully a reveal of Zelda for E3 2014 is more likely.
I agree though, Nintendo needs to get as much quality content into their press conference as possible.
FYI - Rayman was announced at E3
Anyway I think we basically know everything coming to Wii U before E3; Wii Fit U, The Wonderful 101, Pikmin 3, Rayman Legends, Lego City Undercover, Game and Wario, Monster Hunter etc.. I don't see anything else of note being announced.
ChosenPredator
Banned
It's going to be a great E3 for WIIU because they'll show games and everyone fucking loves games and I think they'll show the games that everyone is craving.
Microsoft is going to be the most talk about E3 event..it's going to be interesting to see what games they have and what incredible things this new generation console does/plus games
sony - no idea it's going to be the most interesting out of all of them to watch ..who knows they could take everyone by surprise and just blow the roof off.
Microsoft is going to be the most talk about E3 event..it's going to be interesting to see what games they have and what incredible things this new generation console does/plus games
sony - no idea it's going to be the most interesting out of all of them to watch ..who knows they could take everyone by surprise and just blow the roof off.
mediapulp_wes
Member
This E3 is likely the death knell for Nintendo. Honestly, even if they released a game a month from one of their primary franchises throughout 2013, I don't think it'd be enough to save the Wii U. They need something game changing at E3 and as it's not going to be new hardware, they need new ideas that make the games they do release in 2013 must plays for people outside of the Nintendo hardcore fanbase.
Microsoft look to be gearing up to the 720 announcement and with first party titles light on the ground in 2013, I assume they're storing up a few of those to go alongside the new hardware. For me, if they want to be top dog, they need to announce contract style pricing for the new console. £99 console with an inflated Xbox Live subscription to cover the cost over 24 months.
Sony have the strongest looking lineup for this year, which makes me question whether they'll announce new hardware. Surely they have to bring the PS4 out within six months of the new Xbox or risk losing more ground to Microsoft. They've got a huge balancing act to manage at E3 this year. God knows what they do with Vita from this point out. It's on life support and I doubt they can afford to kill it.
Microsoft look to be gearing up to the 720 announcement and with first party titles light on the ground in 2013, I assume they're storing up a few of those to go alongside the new hardware. For me, if they want to be top dog, they need to announce contract style pricing for the new console. £99 console with an inflated Xbox Live subscription to cover the cost over 24 months.
Sony have the strongest looking lineup for this year, which makes me question whether they'll announce new hardware. Surely they have to bring the PS4 out within six months of the new Xbox or risk losing more ground to Microsoft. They've got a huge balancing act to manage at E3 this year. God knows what they do with Vita from this point out. It's on life support and I doubt they can afford to kill it.
Angel Abaddon
Member
Thats pretty much bang on my opinion on them as well. Definitely agree that Sony will have to throw themselves in if they want to take back first place in the West, they made some bad choices in the wake of the PS2's success and the run up and first year of the PS3 that have worked against them the entire generation. They've started making headway the backend of the generation, especially with PS+ being a major win for them, but they need to get the benefits out there to the general public and keep momentum going.
On the other hand, I do feel MS have been losing ground lately and basically making the same mistakes Sony did between the PS2 and PS3 and getting too comfortable, as there does seem to be a build up of people turning away from them due to MS turning towards the console being an entertainment system and beginning to lose focus on gaming ,and the Live system. I've started noticing there is a general feeling that people feel they are held hostage by XBL because its where all their friends are and paying for online rather than added value, and with the rise of PS+ actually showing what a subscription can offer, if Sony push that hard on PS4 and during E3, they could have the rug pulled from under them.
Nintendo I think have the most to prove. The casual market that made the Wii what it was just hasn't been there so far for the Wii-U, and the abandonment of the traditional Nintendo fans with the Wii and the under-powered (compared to what the next Xbox and Playstation are likely to be) won't win them back by simply being Nintendo and I don't think the current 3rd party support will be able to help them. They really need to push the first party stuff, and hard, and definitely need to show a plan that there will be that support for more than a year or so like there was with the Wii by frontloading Mario Kart, Smash Bros and Galaxy in the first year and a half, then near enough nothing until Skyward Sword in its final year. I think getting a steady stream of Nintendo titles out alongside getting developers on board with the likes of a new Last Story, Xenoblade and Pandoras Tower early on, pushing them hard (and actually releasing them globally asap) and keeping that support running is possibly their best chance.
Edit: Although, I disagree on Nintendo and Sony being gone once its all over. Nintendo I think still have the ability to coast as they are. It won't do them good, but they're still able to do it based on the Japanese market, much like they did the N64 and Gamecube. It took Sega 2 1/2 completely unsuccessful systems to finally kill them, Nintendo are far better positioned to just keep going. Its not going to win them any awards, but I don't see a coffin yet.
Sony I think are even safer, I think America is the odd one out when it comes to its popularity. the PS brand is still going strong over here in Europe, even though Xbox is the frontrunner there is a lot less distance between the two, and from everything I understand its still the leader in Japan, so unless the other Sony departments screws things up so badly that it hits the Playstation side of things, I can't see them being taken down either.
Gianni Merryman
Member
You're right, alhtough iirc it was officialy undisclosed it was going to be Wii U exclusive at ND with new footage shown.
So do you think these ones are going to be the only Wi U releases until next June?
Wii Fit U
The Wonderful 101
Pikmin 3
Rayman Legends
Lego City Undercover
Game and Wario
Just 6 games, and pretty much all of them are launching in February/March or April at the latest, and what about May, June and August?
If so it would make a drought similar to 3DS one in its first year until the price drop, and I don't think they'll let the same thing happen again, since they need to take advantage of the headstart as much as they can.
Sentenza
Member
Hardware by itself means nothing, if they don't have some impressive lineup to show off.