Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.

XIII was the antithesis to XIII before it was released. People thought the game would be incredible, and Lighting was notably popular on some of the forums I frequented at the time (can't speak for here). To think that a game that's been in developmental hell for years, and will likely end up being released on a console that it hasn't at all been developed for, is going to usher in some new golden age of Final Fantasy is just bizarre; there's no possible way it can live up to the hype that's being created for it by some of the more die-hard fans.

I don't think anyone expects a new golden age for FF, but people are just pining for at least one good FF game this gen, since FF XIII, XIII-2 and Lightning Returns are hated by so many (not by me though, I like them even if they're flawed), and FF XIV is an MMORPG so it doesn't necessarily appeal to fans of the offline entries anyway.
 
GAF's insistance that Obsidian are somehow God's gift to gaming is starting to reach laughable levels of ridiculousness. They're a studio that makes games with interesting ideas, but the execution is always terribly flawed. I have never, and I don't think will ever, understand why GAF continues to hold them in extremely high regard.

You've got to understand, I'm ready to love them, GAF. But thus far they haven't given me any reason to at all.
Some of the best writing in WRPGs & their RPG mechanics aren't pandering to the lowest common denominator like Bioware (nowadays) and Bethesda's games do. You actually have to use your brains when playing their games, instead of developing your character however and that not really mattering in the long run

The only thing in their execution that is flawed is the level of polish, but that is partly a result of their ambitiousness (open-world game + lots of choice & how much those choices affect the game = bugs galore), partly because they have to have rushed certain games out (instead of letting them polish the game longer, Bethesda moved up the release of New Vegas, despite the development schedule for it being short as it was) or haven't been given the chance to do so even if they had time (Sega not paying them to polish Alpha Protocol even though they delayed the release of the game) and partly because, so far, they've never used their own game engines (Gamebryo is the worst shit in the world). Of course they aren't the most technically competent studio, so they themselves are partly responsible too, of course, but things haven't been completely in their hands either.
 
I played and finished Journey. I can understand feeling sad that you lost your silent partner like you would lose a stray dog companion you found on the street and had been walking with for 20 minutes, and it is technically and artistically a beautiful game, but people crying because of anything that happens in the game is LOL material to me.
 
Uncharted is no where near as good as its reputation suggests. No where.
In addition to that video gaming is worse because of the influence it has on other games. "Press forward while awesome shit happens around you" worked in Uncharted 2 because it was fresh and done in technical perfection. It doesn't mean other games should take the same approach to game design because a) they aren't able to pull it off that well and b) it gets old really fast.
 
- I wish consoles still used cartridges or at least cards like DS/3DS/Vita, optical media means you'll have to repair your console at some point
This. Seriously, do away with disc media already. Most PCs are going to have SSDs soon. Cards means less moving parts, less media loading issues. I guess it's just the amount of expense for putting vast amounts on a card (25gb+) to produce. This should go down soon.
- 2D platformers are the best genre
It was my first favorite genre. I love 2D platformers to death.
- SotC was boring and unpolished
Probably one of the most overrated games ever. ICO was millions of times better.
 
GAF's insistance that Obsidian are somehow God's gift to gaming is starting to reach laughable levels of ridiculousness. They're a studio that makes games with interesting ideas, but the execution is always terribly flawed. I have never, and I don't think will ever, understand why GAF continues to hold them in extremely high regard.

You've got to understand, I'm ready to love them, GAF. But thus far they haven't given me any reason to at all.
Agreed. I remember after New Vegas came out, people on GAF were acting like there was a massive gulf of quality between it and Fallout 3. Outside of a few improvements, New Vegas is just more of the same.

And people like to give it credit for having better writing than 3, but all that "good" writing gets thrown out the window when you hire a set of 30 different voice actors to phone in the performances for hundreds of characters. Besides, I don't play video games for writing that is amateurish at best.
 
Agreed. I remember after New Vegas came out, people on GAF were acting like there was a massive gulf of quality between it and Fallout 3.

There is. I've done this so many times so please excuse me for not typing up a huge list of improvements NV had, but it's the difference between a minor league sports team and the professional team.
 
I don't know how the Halo sequels are since I've never played them, but the original is probably one of the ugliest and most garish games I've ever seen in terms of colour palette. It literally looked like a game based on a gaudy 90s Saturday morning cartoon to me.
 
Phone/Tablet gaming is extremely overrated. Plenty of people enjoy these games and that's fine, but I don't see how glorified browser games with touchscreen controls are supposed to replace dedicated gaming devices. Completely different business models, completely different gaming experiences. Yet every now and then you still get an asshat going on about how Nintendo or Sony should switch entirely to mobile development because of how much the latest version of Angry Birds sold at $1 a piece.

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They're not coming back. Let it go.
 
Meh, Sony has just as many games with highly refined gameplay as any competitors.

Couldn't disagree with this more. Sony constantly puts out C and B-tier games that wouldn't gather much more attention than some of THQ's lesser games, except for the fact that they're platform exclusives.

Uncharted 1 was unrefined, 2 is one of the most well refined, polished games of this generation (it controls well, has a lot of greatly designed scenarios & gunfights and it adds a lot to the formula & polishes/fixes many of the aspects that were still a bit lacking in the first game).

No, absolutely not. Uncharted 2's gunplay is poor, most of its fights consisting of the same wave-based combat as the first. The feedback is minimal, enemies aren't varied enough, the AI has X-ray vision... it's a bad shooter and a bad platformer with a bad story. The only things going for it are the dialog and the visual design that went into it.

That, I guess, is also my controversial gaming opinion for this thread. Uncharted 2 is one of the worst video games ever made, and we'd all be better off if it never existed.

inFamous has ZERO QTEs... It's got a world that is sized well in regards to the gameplay mechanics (any bigger and it would become as tedious to travel through as RDR & San Andreas at times). The mechanics are perhaps a bit clunky, but so are the controls of every open-world game ever, at least inFamous offers a highly varied way of traversing. Crackdown is the only similar style superhero game that I'd say could be argued to be better than inFamous, though I prefer the powers of Cole to Crackdown's

Infamous/Infamous 2/Festival of Blood are the best reasons to own a Playstation 3 in my opinion. Too bad the first wasn't good enough to garner more than cult acclaim, the second hit around the time of the PS3 hack, and Festival of Blood was a PSN title.

Phone/Tablet gaming is extremely overrated. Plenty of people enjoy these games and that's fine, but I don't see how glorified browser games with touchscreen controls are supposed to replace dedicated gaming devices. Completely different business models, completely different gaming experiences. Yet every now and then you still get an asshat going on about how Nintendo or Sony should switch entirely to mobile development because of how much the latest version of Angry Birds sold at $1 a piece.

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They're not coming back. Let it go.

The phone-tablet thing is just common sense. Not sure that's particularly controversial. It's a different process, just like Facebook gaming. The customers buying AAA games overlap with the mobile gaming guys, but they're not identical markets. The market is expanding to appeal to new tastes--while the dollars spent on gaming are finite, the dollars spent on AAA gaming are not going to diminish because of Angry Birds.

As for Rare... I like everything they've done, barring Kinect Sports. Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise is one of my favorite games. Now that they're working on AAA games again, I'm really excited.
 
Ooooh! My turn! My turn!

Final Fantasy Versus XIII looks comepletely mediocre and there's nothing about it that excites me in any way.

I don't care how much horsepower the new consoles have. In fact, I would be totally okay with the PS3 and the 360 sticking around for another few years.

I like the WiiU. A lot. NSMB:U blows me away when I play it, and I think the new Zelda and 3D Mario are going to be so visually amazing that it won't MATTER that the WiiU has "less power".

Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Twooie and Donkey Kong 64 suck. They sucked then, they still suck.

Final Fantasy XIII isn't nearly as terrible as people make it out to be.

Super Mario Galaxy 2 is the best platformer ever made, and it's going to be difficult for any other platform game to ever surpass it.

I enjoy fanservice in my video games.

Heavy Rain is garbage. Beyond is going to be garbage. The Uncharted series is mediocre, at best.

The Last Of Us falls into the same category as Versus for me. I'll grant that the story seems somewhat interesting, but the gameplay doesn't look like anything to fawn over. More brown, more third person, more guns.

Um... Probably more that I can't remember currently.
 
Phone/Tablet gaming is extremely overrated. Plenty of people enjoy these games and that's fine, but I don't see how glorified browser games with touchscreen controls are supposed to replace dedicated gaming devices. Completely different business models, completely different gaming experiences. Yet every now and then you still get an asshat going on about how Nintendo or Sony should switch entirely to mobile development because of how much the latest version of Angry Birds sold at $1 a piece.

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They're not coming back. Let it go.

Tablet and smartphone gaming is overrated because it's the new, shiny toy of alpha geeks and tech pundits who have crafted a narrative to explain why people who own a phone anyway (or bought an iPad) are playing so much Angry Birds. The market is too new and the technology too unstable for it to have found any deep meaning or point to a glorious future that everyone else should follow.

However, I think the theory that everyone probably should be looking at is the general concept of entertainment saturation. People have far more choices for casual, easy to obtain entertainment these days. Handheld video games are no longer that special and shiny. A decade ago, even casual browsers in a store may have grabbed a Nintendo product, like a Gameboy, because it was really the best game in town (punt not intended) if you wanted a cool gadget to put in your pocket and kill time with while out and about.

Today, I suspect portable game machine market share isn't being "stolen" by tablet and smartphone $1 games, so much as naturally eroding via death of a thousand cuts. Competition from everywhere, fragmenting the potential audience's attention. In a sense, this is competition the portable gaming world needs, and Nintendo is being slow to catch on because of their conservatism and beliefs (which are not that wrong) about the dangers of eroding the value of traditional portable games. They need to be more competitive with software prices, etc, and they need to adapt fast.

As for Rare...

... probably the biggest single objective truth (and IMO one of the few objective truths) in this entire thread. Rare is as dead as Bizarre Creations or any other company that is formally, officially shuttered. Goodnight sweet prince, etc etc.
 
I don't know how the Halo sequels are since I've never played them, but the original is probably one of the ugliest and most garish games I've ever seen in terms of colour palette. It literally looked like a game based on a gaudy 90s Saturday morning cartoon to me.
The Halo sequels are very colorful and in some ways moreso than the first game. Halo 4 is beautiful but at times can look like cel-shading. Also, we have the green ships and they have the purple ships and then there's the white and gray stuff with lights and Tron architecture by the really old guys.

It looks like Star Wars prequels sometimes.

Funny and ironic too how the live action trailers and movies are made to look dark and gritty.
 
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• Nintendo should stop making hardware. They are not innovators. The Wii and the Wiiu are gimmicky (motion waggle nonsense, unnecessary tablettroller) underpowered consoles designed to be profitable from the get go, or soon after launch. 3DS' 3d sucks and there's no reason for it to exist. Third party support will only continue to dwindle and it won't get better with the next hardware cycle. They're machines dedicated to only playing the 2-6 worhtwhile Nintendo games (released over several years).

• Uncharted 3 was fucking awful. The story was a total mess and the whole game felt like the developers wanted to string together a bunch of "cinematic" gameplay sequences without giving a god damn on how get gamers to feel anything for the characters.

• Halo 4's story was a huge failure. All of the critical story details regarding the forerunner and the didact were locked away in the terminals that I'm sure 98% of the people who played the campaign never unlocked or if unlocked never viewed. In the end it just came out really goofy. Think Prometheus, but with even less critical information. Purely lazy storytelling effort that marred an otherwise solid (looking) game.

• Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, and Co. have been whored out far too much. Too many of the games are carbon copies/reskins/slight updates (princess gets kidnapped, ganon/badguy wants triforce/kidnaps princess, same exact format and structure to entire game world/experience). There needs to be more drastic departures in art styles and stories (ie: Majora's Mask).

• Call of Duty Black Ops 1 was the last remotely enjoyable COD game. Ever since the proliferation of killstreaks from MW2, the game has become the mario kart of shooters. After BLOPS1 the series lost the last of its snappy-ish game feel in favor for clunkiness and huge autoaim spread. Franchise is dead and should die immediately unless they do something radically different (like a new goddamn engine). The entire current existing userbase for that game series is poison: raging teens and preteens, pathetic dudebros, sexually frustrated middle aged men, and people who are still slaves to COD crack for no particular good reason.

• Microsoft are fucking crooks for allowing ads, not just game ads - but ads for products on the dashboard for Gold members. Seriously. It's bullshit.

• If Sony's Orbis or whatever concept is true for the PS4, they have completely lost their fucking minds. You're about to pull a Microsoft Kinect. Children, tweens, party girls, and moms are not your fucking demo get your heads out of your asses.

• Battlefield 3. Is perfect on PC with very few issues. (Why the hell can you indefinitely repair a tank that has lost all of it's armor 5x over?)

• Mass Effect 3 was a really good game. Up until that completely unsatisfying and lazy ending. The new ending is better, but still not what they had been promising for years. Bioware is overrated as a whole.

• People that complain about season passes are fucking whiners. It's reality now, DLC and freemium are here to stay. Deal with it and complain about something else.

• Dead Space 3. Why the fuck did this need co-op? You're 2 games deep into a trilogy EA. No one asked for it or wanted it. A horribly small percentage will play it co-op making it a waste of money.

• Shooters. If you're going to have a campaign - ditch onrail micheal bay "cinematic event" string-a-longs for more large open areas (ie: Farcry 3 as the bar, Halo 1 as the minimum). Seriously, onrails campaigns are boring and played out. No one wants to play those anymore.

• League of Legends. It's just Zygna dota. And anyone with a remote sense of good design will be utterly horrified at some of the characters/skins in that game. Mortified even.

• Killzone. Shitzone. Seriously overrated as a whole. Same for Resistance. And Infamous.

• Medal of Honor. EA should smother it with a pillow. You're not going to make Medal of Honor happen. Stop dumping resources into it immediately. Bring back Mirror's Edge and Bad Company.

• Assassin's Creed 3's story sucked because the main character was boring as shit. Connor has less personality than one of old-man Ezio's soft prune juice poops.

• Ubisoft getting into making movies sounds like a horrible fucking idea.

• Ubisoft not being able to make a GREAT Rainbow Six game is a fucking tragedy. (Or Ghost recon). How the hell did you make not 1 but 2 HAWX but not a good Rainbow Six game? This used to be a genre defining shooter. The fuck Ubi.

...and the grand "brotellthemhowyoureallyfeel" moment...

• I love video games, but they are largely worthless timesinks that offer little to no positive impact to your life: they are distractions from the real world/your life. You spend hundreds and hundreds of hours pouring your time into something that outputs nothing of real value to yourself or society. Take me for instance: if I had been drawing more, learning programming, and exercising more instead of playing battlefield for 300 hours I could be a fitter, brighter, more successful person. I shudder to think at the literal YEARS OF LIFE TIME wasted by the people who play MMO's and criminally drawn out JRPG's over and over.
 
  • The Xbox 420, PS4 and Wii successor will be the last consoles. Japan isn't a warning sign, it's a harbinger of miniturization coming to the console space.
  • Pokemon is secretly the most forward looking franchise in gaming.
  • If your game needs a day one patch or has massive issues on more than one platform, you should be DQd from any and all GOTY debates.
  • The only reason Bethesda is still allowed to publish on the PS3 and 360 is because they have pictures of Robbie Bach, Jack Tretton and a goat.
  • European platformers take way too long to get into the rhythm of.
  • The music game genre is alive and well, just the plastic instrument genre is dead.
 
Tablet/iOs works fine for certain genres... which are exclusively non-action ones. Board game adaptations, asynchronous versus TBS... etc
 
Also Assassin's Creed 3 is a fantastic game and is only behind AC2 as best in the series. The present storyline is awful and boring but it's always been bad and that's not why I come to Assassin's Creed. Connors story was well done and being apart of that time period and walking around the streets of colonial boston and new york is worth the price alone. Also for those who bitched about the chase sequences, I'm sorry but try sucking less. I only had to repeat one of them and that was about 4 times at the most. And yes I played the game unpatched. Also their called optional objective for a reason. Meaning you don't have to torture yourself if their to hard for you.
 
Mass Effect is boring. Gameplay is boring and story is not interesting.
There hasn't been a good space story since Knights of the Old Republic.
 
Ooooh! My turn! My turn!

Final Fantasy Versus XIII looks comepletely mediocre and there's nothing about it that excites me in any way.

I don't care how much horsepower the new consoles have. In fact, I would be totally okay with the PS3 and the 360 sticking around for another few years.

I like the WiiU. A lot. NSMB:U blows me away when I play it, and I think the new Zelda and 3D Mario are going to be so visually amazing that it won't MATTER that the WiiU has "less power".

Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Twooie and Donkey Kong 64 suck. They sucked then, they still suck.

Final Fantasy XIII isn't nearly as terrible as people make it out to be.

Super Mario Galaxy 2 is the best platformer ever made, and it's going to be difficult for any other platform game to ever surpass it.

I enjoy fanservice in my video games.

Heavy Rain is garbage. Beyond is going to be garbage. The Uncharted series is mediocre, at best.

The Last Of Us falls into the same category as Versus for me. I'll grant that the story seems somewhat interesting, but the gameplay doesn't look like anything to fawn over. More brown, more third person, more guns.

Um... Probably more that I can't remember currently.

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I firmly believe that RARE fans are just the poor bastards who endured the late 90s with just an N64 for company.
 
People don't play games to enjoy them; they play them to have something to bitch about. They go into games wanting to either like or hate them: whatever the current trend is.
 
Nintendo should be absorbed in a huge healthy company with a lot of money to be a decent hardware manufacturer, it's obvious that because they are scared they will never risk anything again and their products will always be second/third tier ones (and i'm not only talking about power). The sad part is that this philosophy is now moving also into their software side... i don't care how successful they are right now from a gamer point of view, the sooner they are absorbed by a company with a lot of money that let they do what they want, the better.
 
My turn...

Sony's big first party titles starting with Ps3 all bore me to tears. This includes God of War and Uncharted. Technically they're spectacular but actually playing them is an unmitigated snoozefest. Don't get me started on any of them because we'll be here all day.

I played Halo 1 on PC. The game is possibly the most overrated, unpolished pile of hot garbage to ever wind up being a system seller.

Rare is dead, and they were the second they left Nintendo. It just took a couple years for the reality to catch up with the truth. Same thing with SK. Pretty evident where the proper talent management comes from where "Nintendo quality" is concerned.

I consider the Wii U to have the best multiplatform versions of all the games I've played thus far. I don't give a shit what DF says. They all play fine and off TV play is an absolute killer feature for me.
 
Nintendo should be absorbed in a huge healthy company with a lot of money to be a decent hardware manufacturer, it's obvious that because they are scared they will never risk anything again and their products will always be second/third tier ones (and i'm not only talking about power). The sad part is that this philosophy is now moving also into their software side... i don't care how successful they are right now from a gamer point of view, the sooner they are absorbed by a company with a lot of money that let they do what they want, the better.

While I can't really agree with this, or agree that it would be the "magic bullet" that would somehow fix all of Nintendo's perceived problems...

... at this point a perverse part of me wants to see this happen just to finally titillate those who are determined to see it.

Because then we'll spend the 2020-2030 era listening to everyone turn around and wax nostalgic for the days when Nintendo was actually special, because they were their own company, and not a generic subsidiary of Mega Game Publisher X, making generic dumbed down casual Mainstream Crap like everyone else.

Not like the good old days, when they make quirky, unique, one of a kind games only Nintendo could make.

Like Wii Sports Resort.

And Nintendogs.

It'll happen. Just wait.
 
- "Steam Box", specifically the one Valve codenamed "Bigfoot", will fail. While some of the things that have surfaced about it today are interesting, I just don't see a substantial demand for this. Not now, not ever.
- The "Littlefoot" Steam boxes i.e. the small LAN streaming devices (such as Piston, I guess) could do better in the market if priced inexpensively enough.
- Nvidia's Shield will fail. I know that it can locally stream Steam games similar to Littlefoot. However the general public and even most core games will view it as another ridiculous-looking and expensive handheld. Shield will go the way of N-Gage, Game.com, etc.
- Ouya will fail. I see no market for it beyond the Kickstarter backers.
- Both PS4 and X720 will underwhelm gamers once they're officially unveiled. Both will focus heavily on motion controls (the next iterations of Move and Kinect, respectively) to the disappointment of core gamers.
- Wii U will fail commercially, and have a shelf life of 3 years tops. Almost everything about it sucks.
- Nintendo needs to abandon the hardware side of things and go third party.
- Bioshock 1 is the second-most overrated game this gen. (GTA IV is #1, but that isn't all that controversial.)
- "Free to Play" (games and concept) is not as good as advertised, and will begin to lose its luster within one year.
- Obsidian's Project Eternity will be a major disappointment.
- The Vita will be Sony's last handheld.
 
A completely randomized list of rants:

  • I think the Halo series is the most boring single player of any FPS game. The level design and story are horrible, period. I honestly have no idea why I keep buying new games in the series.
  • Going along the lines of point #1, I think most level designers in games these days need to go back to gaming's roots and take a good long look at the level designs of Doom 1/2, Quake 1/2/3, Half-Life, Counter-Strike, UT '99 and Golden-eye. Map design in games this generation are completely forgettable. Despite owning all three games you could show me a map from Modern Warfare 1-3 or Battlefield 3, etc. and probably would not even know the name of the map or which game in the series it game from.
  • I think the most horrible looking FPS visually looking games (Warband, Gary's Mod mods, Counter-Strike Source mods, Killing Floor, Red Orchestra) with janky coding to boot are more enjoyable than AAA shooters like Halo, Gears of War, Modern Warfare, Battlefield 3 in the multiplayer category.
  • In the single player category for FPS's, Condemned was the best this generation hands down and it was released practically at the Xbox360's launch. What is wrong with you FPS developers, you have had years to beat it!
  • I have no idea why people on this forum give two shits about the power of the WiiU. It is all about the software. A HD Mario Galaxy, Metroid, Smash Brothers, Mario Kart, and Zelda will most likely blow 99% of the games that are on Microsoft and Sony's next consoles out of the water in terms of enjoyability. Graphics are nice, but the best looking game in the visual department will not hide the fact it is a turd.
  • Going along with my Nintendo rant the music in ALL new Super Mario Brothers game blows. Please stop with the high pitched WAA voices and jumping to the music. Galaxy's music on the other hand was AMAZING. It is amazing how both soundtracks lie completely on opposite of the spectrum.
  • Like many people on here have been saying, I do not see what all the hubbub about Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is. I think it is a pretty generic adventure game. Although I only played through the first one.
  • Final Fantasy is dead. Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon were the best RPGs of this generation and I find it amazing they were released on the Xbox360 early in its life and nothing has come close to them since then.
  • I feel sorry for Vita owners. I do not know why people are holding out hope for the system to have a great selection of future games.
  • I secretly hold out hope that point & click adventure games will enter a golden era like the the Lucas Arts and Sierra era of the 90's. I hope the genre crushes all other genres.

Oh God I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
 
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