Aw man...You're forgetting Macau in sunny weather.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfmD4ZN5b9k
Very photorealistic.
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Aw man...You're forgetting Macau in sunny weather.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfmD4ZN5b9k
Very photorealistic.
to me thats not very sunny, this is what i think of when i see pgr4, and how most of the game is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-q4gvY5WpM
which still looks very good but looks cartoon like
Heh. I agree. The colors were also a bit too much saturated there.
Weird how color saturation is tied to the weather.
CrunchinJelly
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I just hope they remember they will still need AA even at 1080p.
Psychotext
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Ugh... these posts are bringing back horrible memories of that GT vs Forza trollbait thread.
Nah... I think GT and Forza is looking dated now. I'm ready for new consoles.
I seriously hope that we get some form of system-wide AA, it should be a standard.
lol like 720p was in the 360's TRC at launch, right?
(which they broke with their own launch titles)
You'll get vaseline post-processed AA and like it
FXAA is cheap.
Just have a 4XMSAA and FXAA combo like Forza Horizon.
This was 4XMSAA on Forza 4 and it still was jaggy at 720p.
lol like 720p was in the 360's TRC at launch, right?
(which they broke with their own launch titles)
You'll get vaseline post-processed AA and like it
AC3 IQ is pretty good. Maybe we could use that?
Only if amazing=photorealistic.
I don't think that achieveing photorealistic look is priority one for every developer.
PGR is arcade series and it has it's own specific look.
Cloudy orange tinted Macau is still one of the best things I saw this gen.
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Psychotext
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I really like the "hyperrealistic" look of many games.
Without it we would not have... Is this real life posts.
I knew something was off with Forza Horizon in cockpit mode.
Dirt doesn't show on the windshield (PGR3,PGR4, Dirt 1-3). Nor does it reflect the cockpit...:/
Sorc3r3r
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So Kinect v2 will be Microsoft main selling point for Durango?
It's in their intention to push it like the Wii U pad?
I find their strategy pretty interesting, even if I am not a fan of Kinect, but it's a major way to differentiate their offer from the competition(Sony wont have any motion device in the box if the rumors are correct).
Could be huge with 3rd party games that on Durango would have, if "kinected", an intrisic exclusivity.
NVM, didn't read properly..
JonathanPower
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It does not. You are not going from 32MB to 2GB. I think it will use something around 64-128MB, maybe even less. However, since the WiiU uses the crazy amount of 1GB for the OS, people assumed that MS and SONY are going to follow the same route, which is unlikely in my opinion.
Corleth the Fey
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I believe the thinking is that ' Windows 8 ' is loaded in the background at all time. So that's where the memory goes, but there's no actual evidence so far that this is happening. I don't believe it myself.
The Abominable Snowman
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Windows 8 RT requires 512MB. Not 2GB
metalslimer
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With all the stuff Microsoft is going to throw in into the OS, it's definitely using at least 1GB imo. Windows 8 is definitely going to be there along with all the kinect features.
wtf no, but karts in forza would be awesome
hey forza fans is there any word on forza 5 having open wheelers?
lightchris
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It depends. If they, for example, want a seamless transition between gaming and browsing the internet, more RAM is needed (the browser and content needs to stay loaded in the background while gaming, like on PC).
drugstore_cowboy
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No news as far as I know, if they continue to build on the same Forza engine it's unlikely we'll see them.
JonathanPower
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Yes, I am pretty confident that this will never happen.The rumors say the Xbox720 will use a kernel derived from Windows8, that's all.
You mean it's more likely? The engine seems pretty versatile judging by F4 and Horizon.
It looks like it'll be a while longer for that type of info to surface. If BADNED's comments are anything to go by, a PGR5esque game will launch before FM5..
I want to see some Forza incubation at E3.
drugstore_cowboy
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It's only the limits of the graphics engine that is holding back open wheeled cars from what I remember, hopefully next gen Forza won't be another rehash.
JonathanPower
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If they want this, they also need to reserve a portion of CPU power for such a task, meaning that this power wont be available for games. They could implement a lot of stuff with 128MB already, but you are assuming that everything is memory limited which is not the case, since every feature also needs CPU power to be executed in the background.
Browser would be lightweight and you'd maybe only store the currently front facing tab in memory, and reload others if you switch back and forth.
1GB should be more than enough assuming MS are being remotely efficient. Even if they literally use Windows 8 RT as-is it'd run ok on that much.
No they wouldn't, you'd only need CPU for tasks that are executing in the background, like voice chat. Web browser would simply suspend when you switch away so it'd only need some ram.
ThoseDeafMutes
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It's not hard to imagine a situation where there is one core and 2GB dedicated to OS, or some such.
I have no idea what you're looking at. I play Sleeping Dogs on the highest settings for everything and it still doesn't look as good as Watch Dogs.
You are really wrong. It's fantastic with subpixels aliasing. Bully emulated on my ps3 with FXAA actived it's incredible clean.
lightchris
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Probably, yes. I too think that 1 GB would be more than enough, but we don't know for sure what MS is planning. If someone told me one year ago that Nintendo would reserve 1 GB of memory for the OS, I'd not have taken him seriously. Yet here we are.
Anyway, my original point was that there can be good reasons why you could need more than 64-128 MB (not more than 1 GB).
If I could choose for my personal tastes though, I'd keep the OS as small as possible. I want the console for gaming first, everything else should come second.
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Ddr ram for the os would be cheap though, no?
You can say this about any great looking game this gen. Beyond gifs are thrown around in this forum but that's not doing anything amazing with tech either, it's all good art and shaders (like most games). The tech is there to serve the art, not the other way around.
That likely won't happen and it really wouldn't be a good idea. If MS really did enforce the rule that every game must have MSAA this gen, it would have REALLY hindered 3rd party games and support. However because there was no standard being forced, developers now can choose other cheaper options that still provide some filtering.
Devs need as much freedom as they can get with these consoles, we don't want to lock them down into any standards they may come back to bite them in the end.
Higher quality PPAA will be used next gen. I'd prefer MSAA over any PPAA, but there's only so much we should expect from boxes with finite amount of resources.
Unless Bully was ported to the PS3, like KZ1, it won't have FXAA when running through the PS2 emulation.
Exactly, I have no idea what some of these guys are talking about unless they have some super secret dx-11 games that no one else has seen.
Made Samaritan look better than when it used MSAA.
http://international.download.nvidi.../GDC2012/Samaritan-MSAAFXAA-Comparison-1.html
Good point, I guess thats my loathe for aliasing speaking. I would be happy with a FXAA switch
if you find blurry better than sure
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infinityBCRT
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Its going to use more than that. They will likely support multitasking (similar to a mobile OS) so that you'll be able to jump between a play session of Halo 5 and watching their digital TV service or Netflix quickly.