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just dropping in to introduce myself

i'm blayke, 17 years old, and a closeted gay

phew that was hard to get off my chest!

fake edit: also, nice to meet you all!
 
I agree with this so much. Here in Japan people talk about who is 's' and who is 'm'. Its not a gay community term at all though but It pisses me off because it implies someone dominating or even inflicting pain on someone else. Implying exactly what you said above. And that you have to be one or the other.

It's Prob my favorite thing about being gay, that a potential partner can be my equal.

Uhhhhh...that's a tricky thing to say...
 
I've always wanted to get together with a guy for dinner and a movie, but instead of going out we rent something and make the dinner together. Always wanted to cook alongside someone. It's cute, romantic, and you get a good idea of well the two of you work together.

I've brought this up to just about every guy I've felt anything serious with and it's never happened. :(

I've done this.

I cooked. He helped. It was delicious. We watched one of my DVDs, which happened to be a favorite movie of his. Then he dumped me a couple hours later.

Now this date concept is ruined for me because I'll always associate it with bad times.
 
I've done this.

I cooked. He helped. It was delicious. We watched one of my DVDs, which happened to be a favorite movie of his. Then he dumped me a couple hours later.

Now this date concept is ruined for me because I'll always associate it with bad times.

Just so you know, I was watching the new Black Spark video and thinking of you...;)


Because it used a Solange song...
 
I've done this.

I cooked. He helped. It was delicious. We watched one of my DVDs, which happened to be a favorite movie of his. Then he dumped me a couple hours later.

Now this date concept is ruined for me because I'll always associate it with bad times.
:( That's horrible. I'd come pay you a visit just to fix that.

What movie? I remember my second or third date with my last boyfriend I had him over to watch a movie. Turned out to be his favorite too, You've Got Mail... my favorite romcom. Life sucks. We still very much love each other, but the distance is just too much. We talk all the time, and always have some intimate conversation over the phone on New Year's. :\
 
Maybe it wasn't his favorite movie?

idk, he pulled it off the shelf and said, "Can we watch this? It's one of my favorites!"

Just so you know, I was watching the new Black Spark video and thinking of you...;)
Because it used a Solange song...

He needs to do a compilation of all the music used in his videos. There are a lot of unreleased remixes and edits that I'd kill to have in their full versions.
 
I'm in love with this scarf I got <3

FUwA8.jpg

qo7R6.jpg


I just wish I had more that matched with it.
 
Hi Gay GAF I have a question for you kind folk.

What is it called when your not attracted to men in any sort of way, but still like to jack off (occasionally) to shemale porn, and gay porn?
 
Hi Gay GAF I have a question for you kind folk.

What is it called when your not attracted to men in any sort of way, but still like to jack off (occasionally) to shemale porn, and gay porn?



well I can't really say much for the transgender part, however, if you're masturbating to gay porn then you must like guys at least a little bit.
 
Hi Gay GAF I have a question for you kind folk.

What is it called when your not attracted to men in any sort of way, but still like to jack off (occasionally) to shemale porn, and gay porn?

It's called "whatever gets you off."

Watching gay porn doesn't really have to mean anything. I watch straight porn occasionally. Something about men "in their natural habitat" can be a real turn on...couldn't care less about the woman.
 
I'm in love with this scarf I got <3

http://i.imgur.com/FUwA8.jpg[/MG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qo7R6.jpg[/MG]

I just wish I had more that matched with it.[/QUOTE]
I like it! It's summer over here so the sight of scarves just makes me start sweating.
 
just dropping in to introduce myself

i'm blayke, 17 years old, and a closeted gay

phew that was hard to get off my chest!

fake edit: also, nice to meet you all!

Welcome, stick around! Most of us are pretty awesome.

I've done this.

I cooked. He helped. It was delicious. We watched one of my DVDs, which happened to be a favorite movie of his. Then he dumped me a couple hours later.

Now this date concept is ruined for me because I'll always associate it with bad times.

Ouch. :( I just remembered that basically the same thing happened with my ex and I. Except he didn't help at all. He just ate what I made us, watched an episode of Castle, and then dumped me. :lol Motherfucker. It's okay, you'll have another experience like that and it'll go awesomely :)
 
I agree with this so much. Here in Japan people talk about who is 's' and who is 'm'. Its not a gay community term at all though but It pisses me off because it implies someone dominating or even inflicting pain on someone else. Implying exactly what you said above. And that you have to be one or the other.

It's Prob my favorite thing about being gay, that a potential partner can be my equal.

Dang, if only I were a gay man, I could be equal to my partner. :(
 
I've done this.

I cooked. He helped. It was delicious. We watched one of my DVDs, which happened to be a favorite movie of his. Then he dumped me a couple hours later.

Now this date concept is ruined for me because I'll always associate it with bad times.
Didn't read this previously. No one suspects a break up. It might be the happiest day of your life, and you could get dumped. In the long run, you'll get over it.

/me pats your back
 
just dropping in to introduce myself

i'm blayke, 17 years old, and a closeted gay

phew that was hard to get off my chest!

fake edit: also, nice to meet you all!
Welcome, try to ignore the cattiness and melodrama. Most of GayGAF is pretty awesome.

Man, anyone else have a really cheesy/silly dream date they've always fantasized about?

I've always wanted to get together with a guy for dinner and a movie, but instead of going out we rent something and make the dinner together. Always wanted to cook alongside someone. It's cute, romantic, and you get a good idea of well the two of you work together.

I've brought this up to just about every guy I've felt anything serious with and it's never happened. :(
I love to cook for or with people, my gf has a very restricted diet and it is one of the things I miss.
Hi Gay GAF I have a question for you kind folk.

What is it called when your not attracted to men in any sort of way, but still like to jack off (occasionally) to shemale porn, and gay porn?

It means you are able to be aroused by a range of sexual characteristics. Not much else. Spank to what makes you happy.
 
I agree with this so much. Here in Japan people talk about who is 's' and who is 'm'. Its not a gay community term at all though but It pisses me off because it implies someone dominating or even inflicting pain on someone else. Implying exactly what you said above. And that you have to be one or the other.

It's Prob my favorite thing about being gay, that a potential partner can be my equal.

Wait...what?
 
Being equal because of the same gender . . . Natural habitat . . . What's going on here tonight?

The whole thing is archaic nonsense, fot straight people too (This isn't the 50s.) I hate when people ask me who is the "man" in our relationship. We're both guys. How difficult is that to understand?

Are lesbians either butch or bitch? Come on now. We don't have to imitate straight people.
 
The whole thing is archaic nonsense. I hate when people ask me who is the "man" in our relationship. We're both guys. How difficult is that to understand?

Are lesbians either butch or bitch? Come on now. We don't have to imitate straight people.

I don't think the issue is that black and white. Some people like defined roles in their relationships. Who is anyone here to judge?

Besides, a lot of relationships tend to have a naturally dominant/passive structure, homosexual and heterosexual (and, in heterosexual relationships, it's not always the man in the dominant role). So someone seeking a relationship with somewhat defined dominant/passive roles doesn't necessarily mean they're trying to imitate the heteronormative.
 
Welcome, try to ignore the cattiness and melodrama. Most of GayGAF is pretty awesome.


I love to cook for or with people, my gf has a very restricted diet and it is one of the things I miss.


It means you are able to be aroused by a range of sexual characteristics. Not much else. Spank to what makes you happy.

thank you! and it seems to be pretty awesome, i'm enjoying the conversations haha
 
Part of this irks me.

To me, one of the few plus sides to being gay is not having to adhere to some weird gender role binary. I don't care who's "the woman" or "the man", we're both guys so we're both "the man". And if someone has to have a subservient SO to make themselves feel better about their masculinity then I'm surely not going to be that SO. Nor do I care about how I may interpret the masculinity of who I'm with.

Well it's my choice to adhere to one, and most recent converted-to-gay-straight-guys prefer that dynamic as well. There's something comforting about knowing that my gay daddy takes care of me while I take care of the housework (in any cases I have a maid).

I've always enjoyed the younger-older dynamic that it's what feels natural to me.
 
I think people are misunderstanding what I said. And I'll leave it at that.

Well it's my choice to adhere to one, and most recent converted-to-gay-straight-guys prefer that dynamic as well. There's something comforting about knowing that my gay daddy takes care of me while I take care of the housework (in any cases I have a maid).

I've always enjoyed the younger-older dynamic that it's what feels natural to me.

If that's what you and your guy are comfortable with great. I'm in a similar situation but I bristle at the idea of bring taken care of and I've been very vocal about it not becoming that way just because im younger and he makes all the money. Ideally for me it wouldn't be this way but relationships just happen sometimes I guess. It has happened a lot over the years because of my finances (student loans) so I guess I met fetishiz that equality because I've never been in the position to have it.
 
Hi Gay GAF I have a question for you kind folk.

What is it called when your not attracted to men in any sort of way, but still like to jack off (occasionally) to shemale porn, and gay porn?

You can't not be attracted to men and jerk off to them. I am not attracted to women and do not jerk off to females in straight porn. However that doesn't mean you're gay either, it just means you can be sexually aroused by a wide variety of people, but romantically, you are attracted to women (I'm assuming).

I like it! It's summer over here so the sight of scarves just makes me start sweating.

Aren't you sweating like crazy just wearing your skin anyway? Australia seems to be as hot as hell right now.

I don't think the issue is that black and white. Some people like defined roles in their relationships. Who is anyone here to judge?

Besides, a lot of relationships tend to have a naturally dominant/passive structure, homosexual and heterosexual (and, in heterosexual relationships, it's not always the man in the dominant role). So someone seeking a relationship with somewhat defined dominant/passive roles doesn't necessarily mean they're trying to imitate the heteronormative.

You are right. I'm overly sensitive to issues of gender and societal roles, especially when not being masculine implies that you are less than.
The whole "masculine guys only" that you can see on some people's profile makes me so mad. That people prefer one thing or another, that's perfectly fine, but some people think that not being masculine as a man makes you less than. As if being a woman automatically made you less worthy that being a man. I don't believe in that and I'd rather people focus on the person than on what they expect them to be.


Then you should clarify.

I think it was pretty clear. What I think he meant was that when you are gay, there are two people of the same gender and thus, no societal expectations of roles each has to have in a relationship as opposed to heterosexual relationships where traditional roles might be expected.
 
I don't think the issue is that black and white. Some people like defined roles in their relationships. Who is anyone here to judge?

Besides, a lot of relationships tend to have a naturally dominant/passive structure, homosexual and heterosexual (and, in heterosexual relationships, it's not always the man in the dominant role). So someone seeking a relationship with somewhat defined dominant/passive roles doesn't necessarily mean they're trying to imitate the heteronormative.

Its fine if thats what they want but gay people (or straight people, for that matter) should not have to live under outdated and sexist mores. Relationships should be equal and just because someone is a top doesn't mean they should always be dominant in a relationship. Its just a sexual role.
 
I know I'm new on a lot of stuff when it comes to relationship so I just keep mum during these conversation but last night I realized having defined roles in a relationship as some folks in here have mentioned is something I NEVER want. I want to be on even footing with my partner and sure, we might be more comfortable with doing certain things and stuff but that doesn't mean I do X because its my role. On the subject of masculinity, like.....that term is insanely archaic to use in todays society to gauge what a man should be, it all leans on societal pressure to classify men and its shitty.
meh, just some ramblings I was thinking over the night. Also hi to the new folks! ^_^ most of us don't bite :P

i bite ;)
 
Its fine if thats what they want but gay people (or straight people, for that matter) should not have to live under outdated and sexist mores. Relationships should be equal and just because someone is a top doesn't mean they should always be dominant in a relationship. Its just a sexual role.

Relationships should be equal if that is what both partners want. If both partners want something else, that is fine too as long as it is not abusive.
 
In terms of this egalitarian discussion, yeah, me and my bf split everything as evenly as possible. He pays for his food, I pay for mine ( the fact that he has multiple severe food allergies and I'm vegan has is a big influence on that as well), we split chores and other duties, we split bills to pay, etc. etc. We both work and struggle together. I can't imagine it any other way. The idea of having someone that takes care of those things is utterly foreign to me, mostly due to how I was raised and how independent each of my parents are.
 
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