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Wow some of the experiences in this thread. Awful to hear :(

I actually Came out to my mother last thursday on the 10th. And i was surprised at how well paced and calm the conversation was. She asked questions nothing crazy was said, and i responded nicely back. We still haven't been able to talk much about it since then cause of both of our working schedules and we want to talk about it together alone ( since i haven't told my father and sis yet)

But all seems pretty good. She said she's mostly worried that things will be harder for me now, but i've been pleased with her reaction. Although today she said she barely slept last night thinking of me and seemed a bit worried, she didn't make clear why that was exactly but i'll find out soon i suppose
 
Wow some of the experiences in this thread. Awful to hear :(

I actually Came out to my mother last thursday on the 10th. And i was surprised at how well paced and calm the conversation was. She asked questions nothing crazy was said, and i responded nicely back. We still haven't been able to talk much about it since then cause of both of our working schedules and we want to talk about it together alone ( since i haven't told my father and sis yet)

But all seems pretty good. She said she's mostly worried that things will be harder for me now, but i've been pleased with her reaction. Although today she said she barely slept last night thinking of me and seemed a bit worried, she didn't make clear why that was exactly but i'll find out soon i suppose

Mothers worry. It's in their nature.

BTW, how's it like being gay in NYC?
 
I'm with you. I'm 6'7" and it's a pain in the ass, but I like shorter guys without question. Shorter as in under 5'6".

:O.... !!!??!?!?!

<_<....>_>.... :O

!!! arhgshghah!!

Short-ish guy calling in, too. I'm 5'7 or so. I also have a huge attraction to muscle-y boys shorter than me.

However, I'm having an (to me) amusing issue: I can't find jeans that fit right. I have a 30" waist and 40" butt. I know we have some lifters in here with muscle legs, too. Any recommendations on jeans?

how do you measure your butt? I won't speak about legs until summer... they look strong, sometimes, because I care to train them but I am genetically fucked so nothing to talk about for now.

Mothers worry. It's in their nature.

BTW, how's it like being gay in NYC?

my mother cried and suggested me to quit my piano major I was doing at the time in one of the most prestigious universities in Europe to go to fucking mexico city to get therapy from a psychatist, a friend of her, so he would cure the gays in me...

and now she has no problem with it, parents just need time.
 
Mothers worry. It's in their nature.

BTW, how's it like being gay in NYC?
From my experience. Very easy to meet people, but in turn causes the guys there to either look solely for sex or quickly lose interest in someone because there's "always someone better". You can find anyone out there, but it's probably a chore to find a great guy, lots of weeding.

Lots to do. No one gives a shit if you're showing affection, yadda yadda. Overall I thought it was a pretty cool place. A gazillion times better than LA.
 
BTW, how's it like being gay in NYC?

It's like being a kid in a candy store and never having enough money to buy everything you want.

From my experience. Very easy to meet people, but in turn causes the guys there to either look solely for sex or quickly lose interest in someone because there's "always someone better". You can find anyone out there, but it's probably a chore to find a great guy, lots of weeding.

Lots to do. No one gives a shit if you're showing affection, yadda yadda. Overall I thought it was a pretty cool place. A gazillion times better than LA.

Or that, in a nutshell.
 
I get people being clueless in a social situation, I'm particularly awful at it, I just don't get social cues at all, but this case is right there, bolded, seriously...

Oh come on, it was gibberish! :P

some pages back I said I am 5'4 and looking for tall guys, preferably above 6'2....

:P I was just trying to scream " Hey, I am here!!" but words didn't come out.

Hi you ^_^ hihi

5'4 eh? Nice. Almost everyone short, here, haaaaates people who are a few inches taller than they are. At least, that's been my experience. I keep wondering where all the good, short guys are who can work with the size difference and see how great it is. I'm not looking for an equal or someone even close to my height. I say, celebrate our differences and make it work. But you know this, you already know what I mean when it comes to these things. We're just on different...er, ends.
 
So I just saw this movie Contracorriente and it really blew my mind, I had never expected a movie from south america with a gay theme to be so good, and I honestly think it goes beyond being a merely "gay flick".
 
Mothers worry. It's in their nature.

BTW, how's it like being gay in NYC?

lol From what i've seen plenty of People being somewhat affectionate i guess lol. I've seen quite a few people holding hands in various areas, from Midtown to college campuses which isn't a surprise and of course in the village as well with a Huge Manhunt Billboard in sight of everything lol.

I'm on Long Island which the reaction will depend on where you are but There is places like Fire Island which is Super gay, Big Gay neighborhood if I recall and there are some organizations like Ligaly which i think i'm going to try to become a part of if i can find my where there transportation wise

Also Dat Legal State Marriage!
 
lol From what i've seen plenty of People being somewhat affectionate i guess lol. I've seen quite a few people holding hands in various areas, from Midtown to college campuses which isn't a surprise and of course in the village as well with a Huge Manhunt Billboard in sight of everything lol.

I'm on Long Island which the reaction will depend on where you are but There is places like Fire Island which is Super gay, Big Gay neighborhood if I recall and there are some organizations like Ligaly which i think i'm going to try to become a part of if i can find my where there transportation wise

Also Dat Legal State Marriage!

Fire Island? I remember that being like the Hamptons for gays in the 80's-90's.
 
Just wondered if there's been anything kl lately that I could read.

Gay articles you mean? Not really, though a lot of people are talking about Jodie Foster's "coming out" at the Golden Globes. I saw a bunch of articles over on the Huffington Post about it, though I haven't read them.

Why I'm So Angry About Jodie Foster's Coming-Out Speech
Why Jodie Foster's Golden Globes Speech Matters
Why Jodie Foster's Golden Globes Speech Was So Infuriating

I also saw this article on movieline - Jodie Foster's Privacy Plea Ignores Hollywood Homophobia
 
Gay articles you mean? Not really, though a lot of people are talking about Jodie Foster's "coming out" at the Golden Globes. I saw a bunch of articles over on the Huffington Post about it, though I haven't read them.

Why I'm So Angry About Jodie Foster's Coming-Out Speech
Why Jodie Foster's Golden Globes Speech Matters
Why Jodie Foster's Golden Globes Speech Was So Infuriating

I also saw this article on movieline - Jodie Foster's Privacy Plea Ignores Hollywood Homophobia

My friend wrote a blog post about this, I thought it was kind of really brilliant:
"coming out = death said:
I woke up this morning to the radio announcing that Jodie Foster had (finally) come out of the closet. As with most news stories involving a celebrity’s sexuality that don’t involve the existence of a sex tape, I could have cared less. What got me hooked on this story was how Mike Finnerty of CBC Montreal described her coming out as “cryptic” despite having occurred while she delivered a speech at the Golden Globes. This was followed up by a congratulatory exchange of “we already knew” between Finnerty and another host. Much of the media speculated on the speech in the same incomprehensible way: they accused her of not being clear enough, implied she was a hypocrite for asking for privacy while alluding to her private life at televised awards show, and then affirmed that none of this was even necessary because everyone knew that she was lesbian anyways. An article in the Guardian called the admission “opaque.” This afternoon, a radio personality from Radio Canada asked why Foster wasn’t more clear before affirming that her sexuality had always been assez evident.

Two questions follow naturally from the media reaction to Foster’s speech: 1) how could her speech be so totally unclear while also leaving no doubt in anyone’s mind that it was a coming out speech? and 2) why would she come out in such a public manner while also making a claim for the right to privacy?

The second question is a no brainer for anyone who has ever “come out.” Indeed, why should I have to tell you anything about myself in order to claim any rights, including a right to privacy? This is a question that all queer people have struggled with, and I am sure quite a few straight celebrities who have suffered speculation about their sexuality have felt similarly. The question should be turned on its head: why have straight people never had to affirm any particular fact about their sexuality? Answer: we are all presumed straight until proven otherwise.

The first question is the more interesting one, because the language of and contradictions in the media’s reaction reveal what I have suspected all along: the coming out of the closet narrative is and always has been about straight people. Whether you come out or not, somebody always knows something about your sexuality. Scattered among the media reaction runs a thread of “we already knew.” Reactions like this presuppose a perpetual epistemic superiority of Foster’s sexual identity. What exactly is it that we know? How do we come to know it? The regime of the closet is so powerful that we never even bother to ask these questions. We simply know. And Foster, she is trapped, obliged to acknowledge our knowledge about her, never in a position to pose similar questions about us, lacking a vocabulary to propose an alternative version of who she might be. Except that her “coming out” speech aimed to do precisely that, and that is why it was so brilliant.

By being allusive, opaque, and referring obliquely to a former partner of twenty years without the ritual confession of “I am a lesbian,” Foster unsettled the conventions of the coming out narrative. She admitted to being single, a mother, a daughter, an actress and, yes, a lover of another woman. Foster nodded to the “loud and proud” tropes that typically characterize such public admissions, but refused to honor their substance. Instead, she said “I am single,” which for someone who just emerged from a twenty year relationship is probably a more authentic admission than claiming membership to any kind of LGBTQ “community.” Nevertheless, everyone (and this is really interesting) knew what she was trying to get across. The language they’ve used to describe the event, however, reveals their discomfort when someone refuses to play the game on their terms. Nothing more than a declaration of identity will suffice to satisfy the straight media types who tripped through their thesauruses looking for synonyms for “unclear.” Foster’s speech was perfectly clear, but it denied straight people the right to easy classification.

The gays, on the other hand, couldn’t have been more enthusiastic. Mike Signorele, one of the anointed “gay voices” for the Huffington Post, tweeted that “we won big.” This attitude alludes to another, perhaps more mordant and disturbing question raised by the media’s reaction.

For some time now, mainstream homos have been telling us that the key to public acceptance (defined narrowly by how much network television time we take up) is coming out of the closet. Foucault has written about the strange project of sexuality and the delusions of sexual liberation more eloquently than I can, and I need only refer you to his work if you still have doubts that claiming a sexual identity can be anything other than liberatory. But even more pressing, we should critically assess what the real effects of “coming out” and increased visibility actually are. As many scholars have noted, particularly Joseph Massad , the current discourse of “gay rights” trumpeted by international rights organizations in such mythical constructions as the “Middle East” functions to imply the barbarism of others by assessing their stance on “gay rights.” The West used to judge the rest of the world by how they treated their women, and now they judge them by how they treat their gays. In the West itself, we now judge gays by how much they’ve acceded to the stereotypes of gayness, first and foremost among them being the coming out narrative. The most prominent, well-funded “gay voices” seem to be the most adamant on this point.

The problem of these activists who want to ride the international LGBTQ rights civilizing mission across the world, the same people who’ve built successful public carers by promoting their version of liberation, is their utter insensitivity to the practical effects of “coming out” - effects which are not in any way alleviated by having a critical mass of coming out stories. In some contexts, coming out results in banishment from the family, bullying at school, and sometimes corporeal violence. Shallow claims of “publicity = liberation” belie one of the basic truths to emerge from any study of gay identities: anti-gay sentiment rises in proportion to visibility. The “gay panic defense” is the classic example of how one person’s “coming out” excuses a violent reaction.

None of this is to say we shouldn’t be able to walk any way we want, wear whatever we want, fuck whomever want, etc. I’m simply trying to show that the equation of coming out with personal and social liberation is a lie. There are far more difficult questions to be asked about why people are homophobic, and we shouldn’t seek the resolution of these by demanding all gays publicly confess their membership to the gay club. Just because straight people can’t help but ask the question and the “gay voices” crowd is anxious to expand their audience does not mean that coming out is the right option for you.
 
So it turns out I might not be in Japan by February.

:(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

On the bright side, I found Goemon's Great Adventure for ~$5.4 USD. Oh, and to keep this on topic, here's Guy Berryman looking amazing:
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I generally treat Valentines day like Mothers Day. I much prefer Steak and BJ day aka my birthday the following month.
 
So it turns out I might not be in Japan by February.

:(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

On the bright side, I found Goemon's Great Adventure for ~$5.4 USD. Oh, and to keep this on topic, here's Guy Berryman looking amazing:

ugh every member of coldplay is just too attractive

fml
 
Hey, guys. How's it going? Eh, lately I've been pissed because almost every guy at my school is good looking >.> It's too much.
Also, the guy in P.E knows my name yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

It's so sad to write this right now, I feel like I'm in a cliche Manga. All I'm missing is the diary entries saying "I wonder if Senpai will notice me today"
 
Hey, guys. How's it going? Eh, lately I've been pissed because almost every guy at my school is good looking >.> It's too much.
Also, the guy in P.E knows my name yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

It's so sad to write this right now, I feel like I'm in a cliche Manga. All I'm missing is the diary entries saying "I wonder if Senpai will notice me today"

lol, that feeling never goes away. I feel the same about my classmates in college.
 
Gay articles you mean? Not really, though a lot of people are talking about Jodie Foster's "coming out" at the Golden Globes. I saw a bunch of articles over on the Huffington Post about it, though I haven't read them.

Why I'm So Angry About Jodie Foster's Coming-Out Speech
Why Jodie Foster's Golden Globes Speech Matters
Why Jodie Foster's Golden Globes Speech Was So Infuriating

I also saw this article on movieline - Jodie Foster's Privacy Plea Ignores Hollywood Homophobia
What's the lt/dr version of this?
 
Hey, guys. How's it going? Eh, lately I've been pissed because almost every guy at my school is good looking >.> It's too much.
Also, the guy in P.E knows my name yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

It's so sad to write this right now, I feel like I'm in a cliche Manga. All I'm missing is the diary entries saying "I wonder if Senpai will notice me today"

I totally read this in Risettes voice from P4. lol.
 
Gay articles you mean? Not really, though a lot of people are talking about Jodie Foster's "coming out" at the Golden Globes. I saw a bunch of articles over on the Huffington Post about it, though I haven't read them.

Why I'm So Angry About Jodie Foster's Coming-Out Speech
Why Jodie Foster's Golden Globes Speech Matters
Why Jodie Foster's Golden Globes Speech Was So Infuriating

I also saw this article on movieline - Jodie Foster's Privacy Plea Ignores Hollywood Homophobia

Wait, didn't she come out years ago? At least that what I've read - that although she didn't have her official public coming out before, she also didn't really kept that information as some kind of a secret. People who followed her knew that she's a lesbian. So her Golden Globes speech wasn't really a coming out per se, she simply described her life.
 
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