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Deadspin: (Notre Dame football player) Manti Te’o’s Dead Girlfriend is a hoax

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The lies are building and building and contradicting. ESPN is already ignoring that Te'o said he met her in 2009 after they played Stanford.
 
All I need is his own cell phone records. If he talked even for 4 months nightly with her, I'm going to believe he was duped. I just can't believe someone would fake over 160 hours of phone conversations. Now, maybe he figured out he got duped and then continues on with the lie because he didn't know how to handle it. But at least the phone stuff would make me believe he originally got duped.

Is there a reason why no one is considering that he was actually carrying on a gay relationship over the phone and didn't want his parents or anyone else to know about it, so he invented a girlfriend?
 
Is there a reason why no one is considering that he was actually carrying on a gay relationship over the phone and didn't want his parents or anyone else to know about it, so he invented a girlfriend?

Still weird considering ND has it's own robust gay student population...why u no hit at home manti?
 
Still weird considering ND has it's own robust gay student population...why u no hit at home manti?

More has to do with him being a football player being gay. I still dont think we have any active football players who have identified as homosexual. If this is the case then he just invented this so it didnt hurt his draft stock and avoid him be ostracized over it.
 
Who though? Certainly most of his coaches and teammates wouldn't give a shit, or much less ask. A reporter isn't going to suddenly start dropping "Hey Manti, are you actually gay man??"

Edit: You can't really see in that picture, but Johnny Manzill has some awful fucking acne.

You can see it in this picture though.

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Also because he is (was?) a sure-fire top pick in the 2013 NFL Draft. If he is indeed gay, he stands to literally lose MILLIONS of dollars. In fact, he probably wouldn't be drafted.

He would be drafted. The NFL is not homophobic like that.
 
The lies are building and building and contradicting. ESPN is already ignoring that Te'o said he met her in 2009 after they played Stanford.

That South Bend Tribune article isn't a direct quote from him. I don't think he's ever been directly quoted as saying they physically met, though I could be wrong. The ND AD was asked about this and said that when he spoke to Te'o, Te'o said they "met" online. It's all very odd.
 
So even if he wasn't part of the hoax, he still found out December 6 and ND found out December 26. Then they still let everyone hype it up again leading up to the championship game? Oh, and they also planned to release their info on it soon? lol
 
As wrong as it may be he would ostracized in the locker room by most of his teammates.

I really hope he does.come out....I think the NFL would fuck it up something fierce.


I can tell you if we had any gay players on our team in college nobody talked about i. It was a taboo subject. I don't think we've came that far since the mid 90's unfortunately.
 
Sigh..wrestleGAF

You know, reading that bleacher report article again makes me think...does T'eo know that guy? Perhaps he told him what the experience of a gay player is like?
 
It really looks like the best hoax in history that gained legs due to ND's great season. Teo has a couple of different motives for lying about actually meeting the GF in person, the most nefarious being that he was actually in on it, the most understandable being that he was embarrassed to be having an online relationship.

It's also possible that the entire Maori football community is gay and they all help each other get into the NFL by creating fake GFs for each other.
 
For me, all signs point heavily toward the fact that he was a gay Mormon, and invented this girl to get his parents and the church off his back about not having a girlfriend.

It answers all questions about why someone would do something so monumentally stupid and destructive to themselves.
 
For me, all signs point heavily toward the fact that he was a gay Mormon, and invented this girl to get his parents and the church off his back about not having a girlfriend.

It answers all questions about why someone would do something so monumentally stupid and destructive to themselves.

See to me he worked out a deal with some people (RT?) to have a beard and now that the draft and all that money is coming they tried to extort him. He said no...ND used it's weight to suppress the major news outlets (remember they have major pull due to their TV deal) and little old deadspin caught it and ran with it.

This is why I think more is coming soon and it bears watching the fake LK twitter account.
 
Some middling NFL team would definitely draft him. Its not like he can't play.

Also, the media circus if he actually is gay is free money
 
For me, all signs point heavily toward the fact that he was a gay Mormon, and invented this girl to get his parents and the church off his back about not having a girlfriend.

It answers all questions about why someone would do something so monumentally stupid and destructive to themselves.

Then why have her die at all, and why tell the coaches she was a hoax on dec. 26? ND could have lived in complete ignorance of the fact. I really doubt anyone at ND was searching for proof of Leenay's existance after she died.
 
See to me he worked out a deal with some people (RT?) to have a beard and now that the draft and all that money is coming they tried to extort him. He said no...ND used it's weight to suppress the major news outlets (remember they have major pull due to their TV deal) and little old deadspin caught it and ran with it.

This is why I think more is coming soon and it bears watching the fake LK twitter account.

I like this theory as well.
 
Some middling NFL team would definitely draft him. Its not like he can't play.

Also, the media circus if he actually is gay is free money

Agreed but the difference between going 3rd overall and 28th is millions of dollars of that guaranteed money. We all know NFL contacts are a formality right? It's ALL about that up front stack.
 
Trying to follow this thing this morning. Can someone provide a quick recap of everything? It seems every article I read takes a different stance towards the information and its pretty hard to follow.

He was in on the whole thing ? It was a cover because hes gay? 4chan is involved? What is going on!?
 
Agreed but the difference between going 3rd overall and 28th is millions of dollars of that guaranteed money. We all know NFL contacts are a formality right? It's ALL about that up front stack.

I'm not talking about him. Dude lost millions already when he got steamrolled by Alabama.

The talk about him not being drafted is ridiculous though. I can't imagine a scenario where he falls past the 2nd round.
 
I'm not talking about him. Dude lost millions already when he got steamrolled by Alabama.

The talk about him not being drafted is ridiculous though. I can't imagine a scenario where he falls past the 2nd round.

You're right....I doubt he even gets out of the mid to low 1st. Weak draft yo.
 
I don't know why people keep saying that his draft stock dropped so much after the Alabama game when

1) it's one game compared to an entire season worth of data on his ability
2) Alabama's oline is amazing
 

Oh man, Te'O has to be gay. Toualo has been the one saying that he actually met the girl at some point at Stanford, right? And Toualo is gay. So he and Te'O came up with this story because he's a gay Mormon.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it has to be the case. If he says he's got a girlfriend at Stanford then that gives him an excuse to shrug off girls at ND, when he's a Heisman trophy candidate. The girls would be all over him if he didn't do something like this.
 
The perpetrators of the so called hoax.

There's a term in the legal profession called "judgment proof." What that means is that even if you have the strongest case in the world against someone, there's no point in wasting the time and resources in bringing that case because they have no assets that can be used to satisfy the judgment.
 
The idea that he got duped (which I think is complete bullshit at this point) would still involve Te'o slowly changing the narrative as he went along. Things never added up, he still pulled the whole "cancer took my gf" even after he supposedly got that phone call on Dec 6th.

My take is Te'o is a compulsive liar, he made this shit up and it grew out of control. Notre Dame eventually found out but covered this shit up rather than have it come out before the NC because winning, money and prestige are all that matter in south bend (which can be said of a lot of football schools, to be fair). Their entire season was hooked up to this kid, its hard to throw him under the bus. He has defined ND the past 5 months.

Eventually the university will wash their hands of Te'o and play up themselves as the victims. No one should believe it
 
I don't know why people keep saying that his draft stock dropped so much after the Alabama game when

1) it's one game compared to an entire season worth of data on his ability
2) Alabama's oline is amazing
Ppl exaggerate buuut I mean, compare th nfl to bama.
 
I don't know why people keep saying that his draft stock dropped so much after the Alabama game when

1) it's one game compared to an entire season worth of data on his ability
2) Alabama's oline is amazing

He had a pretty bad game but he's still a top prospect and before the fake girlfriend stuff came out he probably still would've been a high pick. I imagine the media circus that's going to follow him will drop his value a bit but I can't see him dropping too much unless something like him being gay actually turns out to be true. That being said is there any way that the Jets don't draft him?
 
Idk if he's closeted its his business. The lying about his gf is ridiculous, but I think prying into his sex life is pretty tawdry.
 
Seems pretty obvious he is gay and his fear of coming out spawned this web of lies. Now he's getting even more critcism and hate than he ever would have imagined.
 
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