Did they know Manti was in on it? Or just that his girlfriend wasn't real? What I read was they knew it was fake, but no one confronted Manti about it, and the impression I got was they knew he was getting pranked but were sort of laughing at him behind his back.
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Deadspin: (Notre Dame football player) Manti Teos Dead Girlfriend is a hoax
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Did they know Manti was in on it? Or just that his girlfriend wasn't real? What I read was they knew it was fake, but no one confronted Manti about it, and the impression I got was they knew he was getting pranked but were sort of laughing at him behind his back.
Well if there's a female accomplice, the skyping portion could be done. Doesn't explain why he would go steady with a girl he has never met in person nor webcam'ed.
So yeah, either Teo is a gullible, innocent moron. Or a dirty fame whore.
When the girl you apparently love is dying you would go and well see her, he never met her one single time? And it is pretty obvious to tell if someone is dying of leukemia. It would be apparent in any video chat.
There is literally no way he could have not been complicit in this. It is impossible unless he is literally brain dead and has no interest is meeting his dying girlfriend, even when she was approaching death.
HerbertFish
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Sounds like RT may be Teos cousin
Gaming Truth
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The "relationship" only lasted for about a year. The original 2009 meeting was a fabrication.
And I don't think Tuiasosopo hates Manti Te'o. I think he just gets off on fooling/pranking people. See the TMZ story where he goes to great lengths to fool some random ND fan.
Oh. This story is so complicated without pencil and paper because Manti fabricated so much of it too. Knowing this, I'm still leaning with #1.
Tuiasosopo actually goes and meets with the only person who caught onto this before Deadspin to deflect her attention (according to TMZ). Again, so much work and effort with no real motive. If this hadn't blown up, the fake Kekua was still dead, and time was marching on, what was Tuiasosopo's ultimate gotcha plan?
There is literally no way he could have not been complicit in this. It is impossible unless he is literally brain dead and has no interest is meeting his dying girlfriend, even when she was approaching death.
I'm still rooting that he's a brain dead moron. I think that would be the real shamalyan twist to this story.
HerbertFish
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SI just posted new info. Go check it out.
LyleLanley
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I'm still rooting that he's a brain dead moron. I think that would be the real shamalyan twist to this story.
I'm rooting for the ultimate Shyamalan twist. The girlfriend was real but Manti murdered her and now he's making it look like he was duped into dating a fake person.
I'm still rooting that he's a brain dead moron. I think that would be the real shamalyan twist to this story.
Part of me kind of hopes that too: that he is the single dumbest person ever (which is basically what his "he was a victim" defenders are claiming). But I don't think it's the case.
SI just posted new info. Go check it out.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/co...rlfriend-hoax-quotes/?sct=hp_t11_a2&eref=sihp
tycoonheart
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SI just posted new info. Go check it out.
Link?
Hey guys my marriage-material girlfriend is on her deathbed but I can't leave summer practices to be with her even though we've never met. It doesn't matter that I'm her 'shining beacon' in this world and that I spend every night talking to her, summer practice is more important than meeting the woman I love once before she passes away.
Pete Thamel attempts to salvage his reputation
Juicy stuff: Thamel claims that he sussed out that the two met online, but didn't want to press the issue.
Te'o claimed that he knew her for four years.
He wears his CTR ring to remember her (the ex-mormon in me goes LOL).
Te'o claimed that she almost died twice after the accident, but he never bothered to visit her?
Oh, and the rector of Manti's dorm claimed that he thought he met her.
Juicy stuff: Thamel claims that he sussed out that the two met online, but didn't want to press the issue.
Te'o claimed that he knew her for four years.
He wears his CTR ring to remember her (the ex-mormon in me goes LOL).
Te'o claimed that she almost died twice after the accident, but he never bothered to visit her?
Oh, and the rector of Manti's dorm claimed that he thought he met her.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/co...rlfriend-hoax-quotes/?sct=hp_t11_a2&eref=sihp
SI: How did you meet her?
TE'O: We met just, ummmm, just she knew my cousin. And kind of saw me there so. Just kind of regular.
SI: How long were you dating? I know that can be a complicated question.
TE'O: Oct. 15 was the official date. Of last year. I've known her for four years. So we've been friends.
Well he is a dumbass no matter the conclusion.I'm still rooting that he's a brain dead moron. I think that would be the real shamalyan twist to this story.
titiklabingapat
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As any normal gay guy back in Highschool, I had a girlfriend too. She lived in Canada. Yes, we talk on the phone all the time. We chat alot on AOL too.
timetokill
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From the article:
SI: How did you meet her?
TE'O: We met just, ummmm, just she knew my cousin. And kind of saw me there so. Just kind of regular.
SI: How long were you dating? I know that can be a complicated question.
TE'O: Oct. 15 was the official date. Of last year. I've known her for four years. So we've been friends.
SI: So you dated for about a year.
TE'O: Yeah.
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He "knew" her for FOUR years, including one dating, and was hoaxed THE ENTIRE TIME? hahahahahaha oh wow
SI: How did you meet her?
TE'O: We met just, ummmm, just she knew my cousin. And kind of saw me there so. Just kind of regular.
SI: How long were you dating? I know that can be a complicated question.
TE'O: Oct. 15 was the official date. Of last year. I've known her for four years. So we've been friends.
SI: So you dated for about a year.
TE'O: Yeah.
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He "knew" her for FOUR years, including one dating, and was hoaxed THE ENTIRE TIME? hahahahahaha oh wow
The SI article is gold.
Te'o claims not only to have a nonexistent girlfriend, he talked to all her family members, repeatedly. When she "died," her older brother told Te'o, "I kind of felt it. He was just crying and crying and crying. I just had to calm him down. I was like, 'You have to speak clearly, I need to know what's going on.' That's when he told me, Lala is gone. That's what they call her. They call her Lala."
Poor, poor Lala. What cereal did she taste like?
Te'o claims not only to have a nonexistent girlfriend, he talked to all her family members, repeatedly. When she "died," her older brother told Te'o, "I kind of felt it. He was just crying and crying and crying. I just had to calm him down. I was like, 'You have to speak clearly, I need to know what's going on.' That's when he told me, Lala is gone. That's what they call her. They call her Lala."
Poor, poor Lala. What cereal did she taste like?
GitarooMan
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If Teo believed all this shit while never once laying eyes on her, he is the most gullible person in the history of the world. There is no winning for him here, either way in this scenario he looks like a complete moron.
This line is fucking amazing:
This line is fucking amazing:
No. She could only breathe. One of the miraculous things was when I talked to her and she would hear my voice her breathing would pick up. Like quickly, and then she would start crying. But her breathing would quicken, and she would start crying. So her brother was in the room with the nurse. They were monitoring her. She said, "Who is she on the phone with?" Her boyfriend. She was like, "That's amazing. She doesn't do that with anybody else." So that happened. And then she flatlined and we were losing her.
The SI article is gold.
Te'o claims not only to have a nonexistent girlfriend, he talked to all her family members, repeatedly. When she "died," her older brother told Te'o, "I kind of felt it. He was just crying and crying and crying. I just had to calm him down. I was like, 'You have to speak clearly, I need to know what's going on.' That's when he told me, Lala is gone. That's what they call her. They call her Lala."
My favorite part is still that supposedly her plug is being pulled and instead of flying to California, he flies back home to Hawaii. Then he hears that she's still alive. Still doesn't decide to visit her.
From the article:
SI: How did you meet her?
TE'O: We met just, ummmm, just she knew my cousin. And kind of saw me there so. Just kind of regular.
SI: How long were you dating? I know that can be a complicated question.
TE'O: Oct. 15 was the official date. Of last year. I've known her for four years. So we've been friends.
SI: So you dated for about a year.
TE'O: Yeah.
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He "knew" her for FOUR years, including one dating, and was hoaxed THE ENTIRE TIME? hahahahahaha oh wow
Pretty sure the hoax started on Oct. 15, not four years ago. Remember the hoaxer knows Te'o well, so it's likely he picked a girl that Te'o had met before to impersonate.
Pretty sure the hoax started on Oct. 15, not four years ago. Remember the hoaxer knows Te'o well, so it's likely he picked a girl that Te'o had met before to impersonate.
The girl had never existed before. It wasn't a case of someone impersonating someone else. She was literally manifested out of thin air.
Remember, the girl in the pictures said she didn't know Manti at all, so it couldn't have been her, either.
So how could he have met her before?
Pretty sure the hoax started on Oct. 15, not four years ago. Remember the hoaxer knows Te'o well, so it's likely he picked a girl that Te'o had met before to impersonate.
And the hoaxer got an entire fake family, a sister, brother, parents to all call T'eo? And T'eo was able to hear her when she was in a coma with the hospital beeps all around and everything?
T'eo is making this up. No one can fake all that to someone.
Pretty sure the hoax started on Oct. 15, not four years ago. Remember the hoaxer knows Te'o well, so it's likely he picked a girl that Te'o had met before to impersonate.
After this SI article, it's really stretching to still think he was pranked. It's not even stretching; it's pretty much impossible. Read the article.
timetokill
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Pretty sure the hoax started on Oct. 15, not four years ago. Remember the hoaxer knows Te'o well, so it's likely he picked a girl that Te'o had met before to impersonate.
Nope. The girl from the photos said she never met Manti. And since Te'o himself said they've known each other for four years, it either means Te'o has been hoaxed for over four fucking years or he's lying about most/all of it.
More from the SI article:
TE'O: It was harder than it was the previous week. I was rolling. The feeling of it settling in that, she's not physically here no more. You just can't call her. I talked to my girlfriend every single day. I slept on the phone with her every single day. When she was going though chemo, she would have all these pains and the doctors were saying they were trying to give her medicine to make her sleep. She still couldn't sleep. She would say, "Just call my boyfriend and have him on the phone with me, and I can sleep." I slept on the phone with her every single night.
SI: You would literally sleep with your phone on with her on it?
TE'O: With her on it.
SI: When you woke up?
TE'O: She's be on it.
SI: What would the phone say?
TE'O: Like eight hours. Lucky she had AT&T so it was all free or my family would kill me.
SI: When did you start talking to her all night?
TE'O: When she got in her accident?
SI: So starting in April?
TE'O: Yeah and you know, she was in a coma. I would try, and you know.
SI: Hit by a drunk driver. What were her injuries?
TE'O: I don't know. She had a lot of different injuries.
SI: How long was she hospitalized?
TE'O: She was in that hospital for about two months.
The bolded alone means one or more of the following:
a) Manti Te'o fell for a hoax, but is still a big fucking liar about being on the phone with this person EVERY DAY
b) Manti Te'o was in on the hoax and never actually called her
c) The hoaxer was an incredibly dedicated sociopathic person who could dedicate 8+ hours of time to just tying up his phone every night, not to mention impersonating doctors, nurses, her entire family, and so on.
Just so you know, Notre Dame and Manti Te'o want you to believe C, somehow.
.So right when I landed, I was expecting to get a voicemail saying she's gone. So I landed and I had a voicemail from her brother saying, "Brother, call me back right now." So you can imagine what's going through my head. I was like, "What am I going to do? How am I going to take this?'"And so I called him back, the doctor came in and he saw something and he wants to try some treatment on her to see if it works. From there she slowly started to get better. Slowly. Eventually she came out of her coma and she started having memory problems and she couldn't remember because of the accident. That's how much damage she had to her frontal lobe. She had memory problems. I was actually the first person that she talked to. She was breathing, breathing. When I talked to her, I would say, "Babe, do you know who this is?" I knew she knew who it was because her breathing would pick up. I was like, "Relax, chill. Breathe slowly. Breathe slowly." And then, that was when she first started to speak was that conversation. I was like, "Babe, I love you. I love you." Very slightly she said, "I love you."
So the entire hospital was in on the hoax. Okay, sure.
SI: Where did you meet her in California?
TE'O: She actually came to one of the games. She saw me at one of the games.
SI: October 15, I assume is USC?
TE'O: That was in November. But she saw me at the USC game of my sophomore year. We were still just friends, we were acquaintances.
Every piece of information that comes out makes it harder and harder. He is going to be forced to fess up or claim he is gay.After this SI article, it's really stretching to still think he was pranked.
TE'O: It was the beginning of July. She and I, man, we had this relationship where it was just amazing. With all that time on her hands in the hospital, she was never thinking about herself and what was hurting here. She was always thinking about others. She went on and wrote a letter to me before every game. Things that she would want me to know. So yeah.
SI: Did she send them to you?
TE'O: She had them all on her iPad and her family found [them]. Her family, what they would do is they would read it to me. And then they'll send it to me in a picture.
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And then I remember I went to class and went to workouts and after workouts, right before I was about to come into meetings, I got a text message from her phone but it was her brother. Every time her brother texts me he just says, "Bro." I was like, "Why is her brother texting me?" Then I get a phone call from her older brother's phone. He's just crying. And immediately I felt like, "Oh my Gosh, what just happened." And then he told me, "She's gone bro."
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Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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After reading the SI interview, theres no way this guy isn't a pathological liar. Or has some other psychological problem.
I refuse to believe this whole thing at face value.
Te'o could never take the time to go visit this chick once while she was in the hospital? Even after her supposed death, which he missed her funeral because of a game, he couldn't bother to go to her grave the day after?
Even if Te'o was a victim of a hoax, he obviously played up the relationship a ridiculous amount.
Te'o could never take the time to go visit this chick once while she was in the hospital? Even after her supposed death, which he missed her funeral because of a game, he couldn't bother to go to her grave the day after?
Even if Te'o was a victim of a hoax, he obviously played up the relationship a ridiculous amount.
TangoAlphaLima
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I want to see those phone records. 8+ hours on the phone at a time is bullshit.
I refuse to believe this whole thing at face value.
Te'o could never take the time to go visit this chick once while she was in the hospital? Even after her supposed death, which he missed her funeral because of a game, he couldn't bother to go to her grave the day after?
Even if Te'o was a victim of a hoax, he obviously played up the relationship a ridiculous amount.
Yeah. The only way he wasn't in on it would have to mean that he was playing it up for sympathy or publicity and didn't really care about her.
Which still makes him a liar.
I want to see those phone records.
There are none.
He could confirm a lot of it simply by releasing his phone records. I doubt he ever does.Nope. The girl from the photos said she never met Manti. And since Te'o himself said they've known each other for four years, it either means Te'o has been hoaxed for over four fucking years or he's lying about most/all of it.
More from the SI article:
The bolded alone means one or more of the following:
a) Manti Te'o fell for a hoax, but is still a big fucking liar about being on the phone with this person EVERY DAY
b) Manti Te'o was in on the hoax and never actually called her
c) The hoaxer was an incredibly dedicated sociopathic person who could dedicate 8+ hours of time to just tying up his phone every night, not to mention impersonating doctors, nurses, her entire family, and so on.
Just so you know, Notre Dame and Manti Te'o want you to believe C, somehow.
The follow-up article to the original seems to rule the gay theory out.Every piece of information that comes out makes it harder and harder. He is going to be forced to fess up or claim he is gay.
Yeah. The only way he wasn't in on it would have to mean that he was playing it up for sympathy or publicity and didn't really care about her.
Which still makes him a liar.
Again, why his only way out of this alive is pulling the gay card even if he actually isn't gay. It's the only way to salvage his image and future.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Well Manti said, good thing she had AT&T or her family would've killed him.I want to see those phone records. 8+ hours on the phone at a time is bullshit.
TangoAlphaLima
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There are none.
Well, Manti's phone records do exist, they just don't show him talking to anyone for 8+ hours at one time.
Well Manti said, good thing she had AT&T or her family would've killed him.
So what did they do, stick their phones on a charger every time they did this 8+ hour call? Cause no cell phone I know could last that long.
And don't most mobile providers offer free calling when its mobile-to-mobile, no matter what network you and the person you're calling are on?
nVidiot_Whore
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The gay theory holds so little weight to me..
He is a Mormon at a Catholic school.. why invent some elaborate hoax when he could just go the virgin route?
He is a Mormon at a Catholic school.. why invent some elaborate hoax when he could just go the virgin route?
tycoonheart
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After reading the SI article, this guy is for sure a lying piece of shit.
LyleLanley
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Again, why his only way out of this alive is pulling the gay card even if he actually isn't gay. It's the only way to salvage his image and future.
As a guy who is about to be drafted into the NFL "pulling the gay card" would be a horrible idea. He'd be much better off just saying he made it all up for publicity.
c) The hoaxer was an incredibly dedicated sociopathic person who could dedicate 8+ hours of time to just tying up his phone every night, not to mention impersonating doctors, nurses, her entire family, and so on..
Well said. This entire debacle is now borderline unreal. Lets assume he -was- duped. That this idiot somehow got tricked by some psycho - seemingly for his own entertainment purposes, and spent countless hours on the phone with him. Even going as far as faking a death; complete with a hospital, doctors, and ventilators.
If that's true, then this sociopath is a fucking genius and needs to write a book / screenplay right now. Otherwise, Te'o is complicit in all of this, and loved the attention and fame. Sources are telling ESPN's Bob Holtzman that there were many people around campus that suspected the entire relationship to be fake. With Manti basking in his own "celeb status".
Again, why his only way out of this alive is pulling the gay card even if he actually isn't gay. It's the only way to salvage his image and future.
Honestly, I think it's a harmless enough story that he can come clean and not suffer any real consequences.
If he is gay, sure. Come out. If not, I don't see what piling on another lie -- one for which he'll also eventually be busted -- will do for him.
I just can't believe that Manti is that good of an actor. If you read the full transcript they are describing him as immensely distraught and emotional about his girlfriend. And even in the interview, the interviewer was saying how emotional he was. It really reads to me like a guy who believed that the love of his life just died.
If it is not, and Manti's NFL career never materializes, than he needs to head to Hollywood.
If it is not, and Manti's NFL career never materializes, than he needs to head to Hollywood.
Honestly, I think it's a harmless enough story that he can come clean and not suffer any real consequences.
If he is gay, sure. Come out. If not, I don't see what piling on another lie -- one for which he'll also eventually be busted -- will do for him.
Because he's a pathological liar.
TangoAlphaLima
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The gay theory holds so little weight to me..
He is a Mormon at a Catholic school.. why invent some elaborate hoax when he could just go the virgin route?
It makes a ton of sense if you know Mormons. They're super big into families, which means they really like young people to get married early and start having babies. At this point Te'o is probably, what, 22 or 23 years old? I'm sure he was pressured by his family to find a nice girl to settle down with, so he created this imaginary girl, who, conveniently enough, was a long distance relationship.
nVidiot_Whore
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Yeah he's a liar no matter what, and a hoaxer, whether he was also hoaxed at any point.
That entire hospital story is an obvious blatant lie.
For his sake I almost hope he was just in on the thing the entire time and admits to it.. because if he was hoaxed into having a fake girlfriend and then came up with all of these exaggerations he's an idiot and a liar.. lol.. the former just makes him a liar.
That entire hospital story is an obvious blatant lie.
For his sake I almost hope he was just in on the thing the entire time and admits to it.. because if he was hoaxed into having a fake girlfriend and then came up with all of these exaggerations he's an idiot and a liar.. lol.. the former just makes him a liar.
I just can't believe that Manti is that good of an actor. If you read the full transcript they are describing him as immensely distraught and emotional about his girlfriend. And even in the interview, the interviewer was saying how emotional he was. It really reads to me like a guy who believed that the love of his life just died.
If it is not, and Manti's NFL career never materializes, than he needs to head to Hollywood.
Unless the Chaplin was in on it - he claims to have observed real tears from Manti...
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