SolidSnakesMyStepDad
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ummm... Did he just say $899
NVIDIA to release GeForce Titan
- Thread starter mkenyon
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Most people see the price and do what you said...not realizing that unless you already have a high end machine in the first place....it's not aimed at you
Is this chart accurate? Sub-60 fps for 7870s at not even 1080p? My rig needs more Gandalf jizz.
And this looks brutal. AMD is getting slaughtered again, isn't it? I can't support Nvidia, though, even besides their insane pricing.
metareferential
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Same as the "some idiots will buy it" comments.
Just because you can't afford it, it doesn't mean it's stupid or useless.
I want one. Too bad it's not worth it, since my rig will be more than enough for at least another year (if not more; gtx 480 here).
I live in a 720p max everything with 32xCSAA bubble and even I understand how invaluable a card like this will be cone the next round of software that arrives with orbis and Durango
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
It's for rich people who upgrade to top parts yearly or so I guess. I don't trust the first of a series.
I wonder if there will be a medium end model of this series by late March which is when I'll build a new rig.
Or if it will at least affect the prices of the older models in any significant way to get a currently high end card.
Or if I should lock myself in another waiting round (I'd have build the PC last month) for better next gen optimized stuff.
I was hoping to build a rig that can run Crysis 3 @ max settings 1080p without performance issues to be a bit future proof.
But that doesn't seem like it will be doable by March, not without killing my wallet, at least with our European price schemes.
I wonder if there will be a medium end model of this series by late March which is when I'll build a new rig.
Or if it will at least affect the prices of the older models in any significant way to get a currently high end card.
Or if I should lock myself in another waiting round (I'd have build the PC last month) for better next gen optimized stuff.
I was hoping to build a rig that can run Crysis 3 @ max settings 1080p without performance issues to be a bit future proof.
But that doesn't seem like it will be doable by March, not without killing my wallet, at least with our European price schemes.
SuperSonic1305
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I just want to run every game at 60fps on max settings at 1080p. Will this finally do it?
Be sure to post your benchmarks in your signature.
The medium end models are technically the 670/680...
Nvidia saw what the performance of those versus AMD and decided to release those cards as their top models (and charge money the same too)...this Titan was supposed to be the true top end 600 series card.
Far Cry 3 is pretty demanding at Very High settings. But yeah, that's about where they woudl rank given the current rumored graphics cards but that is also w/o consideration for the (wait for it) optimization of multi-threaded processing.
You can do that with 90% of games with a card that is less than half this price.
Because of one, single, shitty, unoptimized setting.
Far Cry 3 looks meh and was ported by monkeys.
SneakyStephan
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People who spent 500 bucks on a gtx 680 won't want to hear this uncomfortable truth. They didn't before and they won't now.
@ OP this price is retarded, when did it become Ok to double GPU prices from one gen to the next?
Consumers will take anything up the ass these days it seems.
We'll see how long they can keep up these stupid prices during next gen, people were desperate to get a real upgrade and dump their 300W 40nm overvolted to critical mass overextending 5xx/6xxx cards last time, but they won't get away so easily with their price gouging next time.
I for one am not taking part, I'll keep using my 6870 till it stops working or until prices return to normal.
edit: 235W TDP and 384bit bus? There you go, this is what the gtx 680 was originally going to be, it's nothing outrageous.
The titan name and marketing and naming schemes seem overly effective though, people fawning over this like it's some monster from the land of tomorrow.
Doubling transistor count and the increase in performance is normal, what did you people expect would happen when you skip a generation and go straight form 40nm to 28nm sized transistors? You can fit way more on the same sized die now. (+ brand new architecture compared to femri and nvidia not being wholly incompetent like amd)
The reaction to this, cynical attitude from nvidia towards their users and the effectiveness really ruin my passion for hardware and tech. I feel dirty to call myself a hardware enthusiasts nowadays.
Rawket Lawnchair
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The average Joe that buys this, will not need to upgrade his graphics card for at least 6 years, maybe even more - hell, he can then get a second one and extend his graphics needs for a couple more years..
It's just that the timing is fairly bad, because apparently the nVidia 700 series release in a couple of months, so you're better off waiting.
It's just that the timing is fairly bad, because apparently the nVidia 700 series release in a couple of months, so you're better off waiting.
Horsemama1956
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Resolution doesn't mean everything to everyone. When I was younger I always ran higher resolutions(well high at the time, 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1600x1200 etc..), but I don't find it really adds much anymore, and would rather just buy a cheaper GPU.
A guy running a $200 GPU at 1080p and lower AA settings isn't really going to have a much different experience then a guy running a much higher res with much higher AA settings and a $500 part.
$900 for a GPU is major nerd territory and it's hard to comprehend spending that much for most unless you're into Rendering and shit.
15 years ago this stuff was exciting, but I find it all rather boring now and I would imagine a lot of people feel the same which is why you get some of those types of replies. Or ignorance.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Heh, you guys think that's expensive, imagine how much the professional Quadro line equivalent is going to be!
TheGreyHulk
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aha. so they are releasing full kepler.
for those who don't follow a lot of this stuff, the GTX 680 was originally supposed to be the GTX 670Ti. The 680 really was going to be a monster chip because NV really thought AMD was going to drop the "9700pro" on them again with GCN, but that wasn't the case and Nvidia simply assigned the 680 to the GK104 chip. That's why it's such a small chip for the flagship. Nvidia usually always put a big chip on the flagship card, but they were suffering from bad yeilds and capacity around the time kepler came out so AMD really bailed them out cuz they weren't going to be able to release big kepler at that time anyways.
This really sucks for us consumers though. This really was supposed to be a cheaper card, but NV is milking the game like they should be doing.
It truly is an enthusiast's card. No way would i ever buy something @ this price just to run console ports. That's just me though. If i had the $ to spend just for the f of it, i'd buy it
for those who don't follow a lot of this stuff, the GTX 680 was originally supposed to be the GTX 670Ti. The 680 really was going to be a monster chip because NV really thought AMD was going to drop the "9700pro" on them again with GCN, but that wasn't the case and Nvidia simply assigned the 680 to the GK104 chip. That's why it's such a small chip for the flagship. Nvidia usually always put a big chip on the flagship card, but they were suffering from bad yeilds and capacity around the time kepler came out so AMD really bailed them out cuz they weren't going to be able to release big kepler at that time anyways.
This really sucks for us consumers though. This really was supposed to be a cheaper card, but NV is milking the game like they should be doing.
It truly is an enthusiast's card. No way would i ever buy something @ this price just to run console ports. That's just me though. If i had the $ to spend just for the f of it, i'd buy it
nVidia and AMD keep pushing up those profit margins. Anyone else remember when the 4870 launched at $300? How far we've fallen.
Ugh car analogies with tech. They are terrible every single time.
Ugh car analogies with tech. They are terrible every single time.
It's ok, it's ok... shhh shhh *cradles Metazoid gently* there there, the evil graphics whores won't ruin your fun anymore.
There is a very substantial visual difference. You sound like the ignorant one.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I think the difference is night and day, that one GAF dude's Tera Online screenshots make it look like a whole other game even though I could run the game comfortably in high res and settings, but without super-sampling it to hell and back like he does. It makes games look like CG quality. Of course I can settle for waaaaaaaaaay less and I don't plan to have a PC that does that shit with Crysis 3 and future games but you won't catch me saying it doesn't make a difference...
Infinite Justice
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899 for a one card solution to the 690 is interesting.
I wonder how big will it be
I wonder how big will it be
So, are you now dictating what people get out of their experience with the game? I can't play some jaggied low-res shit running 40FPS, that completely ruins my experience. What then?
Clean IQ at high framerates is like a slice of heaven, some people just can't appreciate it.
zephervack
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Doesnt matter as you can just deducted as machinery for a business haha
metareferential
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When the gtx480 came out, I spent nearly as much, considering the exchange rate with the US dollar at the time.
I remember paying something like 700 chf for it. So it's just 200 chf short of this new card.
The timing isn't just right though.
I remember paying something like 700 chf for it. So it's just 200 chf short of this new card.
The timing isn't just right though.
It's times like these that I wish I was rich.
Why buy a ferrari now when you can buy the better one coming out in 5 years? Because I want a ferrari now dammit! You'd never buy a new GPU if you constantly operated on that line of thinking.
Why buy a ferrari now when you can buy the better one coming out in 5 years? Because I want a ferrari now dammit! You'd never buy a new GPU if you constantly operated on that line of thinking.
LumpOfCole
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It's really hard for me to justify upgrading my single GTX 480 right now when I can play anything with it.
oversitting
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because ferrari don't come out with cars 50% more powerful each year.
AstroNut325
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This is what I will likely aim for when building my next gaming rig.... in SLI. No joke. This sounds like a beast but worth every penny.
Wow @metazoid's semi-meltdown. Does the fact that a high-end product exists that you cannot afford chafe that much? I mean, I can't afford it either, but try to bear it with dignity.
Maybe, but for the price of one you can easily keep up with top-end GPUs for a lifetime. And then some.
Azzurri
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I remember buying a 4870x2 for $500 and I thought that was crazy 5 years ago.
metareferential
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This will push the prices of the 6xx series down, together with the new 7xx series.
It's all good.
I kinda wish I bought a second gtx480 back then, it's difficult to find one now.
It's all good.
I kinda wish I bought a second gtx480 back then, it's difficult to find one now.
Sentenza
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Damn, I poked fun just at his last post but I didn't notice he was melting down so much.
cobragt4001
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Oops I swear I read 85% more powerful lol. But that's still awesome if its close in 690 performance and being a single GPU.
oversitting
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remember when you could buy a cola for 5c?
legacyzero
Banned
Why not just drop the extra hundred and go for the 690? You HAVE to be rolling in fucking money at that point.
cobragt4001
Banned
When is the 7xx series coming out and will they have the maxwell architecture or a upgraded Kepler architecture?
AstroNut325
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Whoa... DAT meltdown! It's like... premium products are a bad thing! And no one should be caring about visual fidelity.
This is a single GPU, so you could potentially SLI 4 of them, where as you can only SLI 2 690s.
Also I've had a bad experience with multi GPUs in general, in regards to microstutter and compatibility issues. I'd definitely get this over the 690.
No we don't, because most of us here weren't alive in 1960. Way to embarrass yourself though.
metareferential
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Should be sometimes in Q2 2013, I guess.
EDIT: agree with x3sphere; single gpu setup are easier and you're less likely to waste power.
Green Yoshi
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The right card for Oculus Rift. 
I hope there will be some games in 2013, that show what is possibly nowadays.
I hope there will be some games in 2013, that show what is possibly nowadays.