Blue Ninja
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I can live with this. Heck, it's the first bit of good news I've heard about the sequels.
Not that I've been following the news, but still.
Not that I've been following the news, but still.
Put "Star" in the title, JJ Abrams will Direct it: Episode VII gets a Director
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This is a really good, albeit safe move.
I'm sure there might be some people who potentially could be better directors, but Abrams on board guarantees:
- An interesting, fun story (Toy Story 3 writer + Abrams = would be very surprising if it's not a good plot).
- Should have well-written dialogue as well.
- Quality casting, with good actors giving good performances. And likely a breakout female star who's relatively unknown now.
- Michael Giacchino doing the score, who's probably the best available John Williams replacement (and who will honor/use the classic stuff while expanding on it).
- Abrams also has enough stroke to counteract any potential George Lucas meddling.
I'm sure there might be some people who potentially could be better directors, but Abrams on board guarantees:
- An interesting, fun story (Toy Story 3 writer + Abrams = would be very surprising if it's not a good plot).
- Should have well-written dialogue as well.
- Quality casting, with good actors giving good performances. And likely a breakout female star who's relatively unknown now.
- Michael Giacchino doing the score, who's probably the best available John Williams replacement (and who will honor/use the classic stuff while expanding on it).
- Abrams also has enough stroke to counteract any potential George Lucas meddling.
BlackGoku03
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My mind is blown!
Can't wait to see this movie that I already couldn't wait to see!
Can't wait to see this movie that I already couldn't wait to see!
Wow, out of all the lense flare jokes in this thread, this is the only one that's not shit.
And it would have been even better with the picture.
Vestal
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Duel of the fates would love to have a word with you. The love theme would as well. Also the battle score for rots has words for you.
But you said you never even seen one of Ben Aflecks films he directed before?
Also, I'm happy with this news. I actually like Abrams, and find his movies fun. I'm one of those pesky movie goers that enjoys when movies are fun. Not everything has to be this long, ponderous deconstruction of a character. Sometimes I just want to see shit get blown up and laugh at fun characters.
Star Trek 2009 was a lot of fun. I'm expecting his Star Wars to be just as fun. Hopefully they'll find a way to mix practical effects and CG effects. I'm really curious as to what the story is going to be. Hopefully the lead up to it won't be full of people trying to figure out who the villain is, though...
Star Trek 2009 was a lot of fun. I'm expecting his Star Wars to be just as fun. Hopefully they'll find a way to mix practical effects and CG effects. I'm really curious as to what the story is going to be. Hopefully the lead up to it won't be full of people trying to figure out who the villain is, though...
ConfusingJazz
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Jesus.
I hate the prequels, and never understood why people liked Episode III, but it still made gobs of money.
I meant the following Nolan quote:
"Zack was the perfect man to take this on; he is unbelievably skilled at creating a coherent, cohesive world. Whether its a very stylized world, like 300, or something thats more challenging, more varied, like he did with Watchmen. In my honest appraisal, taking on Superman and creating that world is far more difficult than creating the world of the Dark Knight. He has a lot of finishing to do on the movie -- it has a very long postproduction schedule because, unlike Batman, Superman flies. I actually feel guilty talking about it because Im sitting here having nothing to do to it. I try to be as supportive as I can, and Im just amazed by what he is doing. Its not something I would know how to do."
I dont get why you keep comparing Episode 7 to Empire / RotJ. Times have changed and first and foremost Episode 7 needs to be extremely succesful to justify Disney's $4b investment. I'd take a proven sci-fi guy over Affleck any day of the week in that scenario.
Sure but what's so bad about relinquishing a little bit of control on Episode 7? They know Abrams and his team can handle the job and having Abrams express his creative free will might help them mitigate any influence Lucas might still have on the movies.
I think we're all speaking from a story perspective here. No point playing it safe because Star Wars as a story or a franchise is precious or anything; the prequels took care of that pretty quickly.
a secret-boss
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Lens flare everytime them lightsabers appear
Very lofty claim there, considering Star Trek Into Darkness will be 3D. I would bet my left nut that SW VII will be 3D, regardless of the director.
Nobody's questioning Abrams' ability to make a high budget sci fi film. Settle down.
It's perfectly okay for people to look at pros and cons versus just praising something unequivocally. Just because people might not think it's the absolute best decision doesn't mean they aren't fine with it overall.
Why are you so hot and bothered that people might not think Abrams is the absolute best choice? It's the internet - if you're not okay with speculation and open-ended discussion, you might want to take a break from this thread.
ThatCrazyGuy
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legacyzero
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Bobby Roberts
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Because the point I'm trying to make is that directors are more than the genres they work in, and talented directors can tell more than one kind of story. The fact it's 2013 and not 1979 doesn't make that point any less valid.
Also, I know it's habit at this point, especially if you've spent longer than a year or so talking about Star Wars on the internet, but Lucas has almost zero influence over anything going forward. This is Kathleen Kennedy's show. There are a lot of us online who are so used to thinking of things in terms of what Lucas wants, or how Lucas does things, but that's pretty much entirely off the table now. That framework is busted.
PandaJones
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Good point, they could use him as a writer.
Abrams' involvement guarantees nothing. Don't get me wrong Abrams is a sizeable cog in the Hollywood system but when he's in the Disney machine everyone must know their place and do as their told.
Especially as they are shepherding an investment of billions and billions of dollars by Disney.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I disagree. Right now I see Affleck as a very capable mainstream director, but I haven't seen anything to convince me his films are anything more than widely palatable. To me his style is very by-the-numbers in a good way. He's honed the playbook on how to craft a thriller/drama without pulling off anything exceptional. To me his films are akin to Ron Howard's drama fair; they're enjoyable but not particularly challenging. I still haven't seen The Town, but between GBG and Argo, he makes rote thrillers.
I see nothing I suggest he could offer more to a new SW flick than JJ - who has a proven flair and control for large-scale blockbuster adventures.
I loved the main theme and I think it's one of the most iconic "new themes" in the last few years. So I'm not objective but did you like his End Credits song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtl0aQCauJA
I think it's a beautiful homage to the Star Trek of the past and it proves that he can stay true to the essence of the original score. Personally, I'd love to hear a Episode 7 score that remixes the classic SW themes like that.
Importantly, its not shot in 3D, its shot like ST1 on film. Paramount converted afterwards, JJ was vocal about not being into 3D.
So yes, im sure Disney will do the same, but itll be a traditional movie.
ConfusingJazz
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Most importantly though, Affleck is a friend of Kevin Smith. I don't want Kevin Smith to have any influence on this film, especially after I heard he liked Ep III.
VeryGooster
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Side note, but The Town pretty much fits this description, too, I felt. Not exceptional, but Affleck crafts the film well enough that you don't notice. Still one of my favorites from 2010, though.
Incendiary
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Affleck does make great movies, but I'm not sure a sci-fi movie would be in his wheelhouse. Just like you don't want Michael Bay to direct a period drama, you don't want Guy Ritchie directing the next Avatar.
Forsaken82
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Its a new trilogy taking place after episode 6. Why not have a new style? As long as its canon, it shouldn't matter how its presented.
Rastafarian42
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DAMN I know Paramount is pissed good choice for director though if confirmed.
Archaeopteryx
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You know, this is the first bit of news released since Episode 7 was announced that actually makes me optimistic that we'll get a good movie out of this. I've really enjoyed Abram's previous work, and Star Trek has shown he can do Sci Fi right. So colour me happy about this news!
Bobby Roberts
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It probably means JJ Abrams won't be directing it.
funkystudent
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I am ok with this.
Star Trek 09 was a better star wars movie then it was a star trek movie.
Star Trek 09 was a better star wars movie then it was a star trek movie.
snoopeasystreet
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I think it'll be fine. Would have preferred Affleck though.
Creatively, Ron Howard has no balls. Affleck does. I guess I just like Gone Baby Gone way more than you do, but it's better than the typical manipulative schlock Howard has done for the past decade plus. And the Town has very by the numbers direction, but it still retains a unique flavor (one might even say flair!).
Maybe he's just better at choosing scripts than Howard or Abrams, but I think you're selling Affleck short. And I don't think JJ has added anything to the various franchises he has worked on, his TV shows are average at best (admittedly gave up on Fringe a long time ago), and Super 8 tried so hard and missed the mark anyways.
Bobby Roberts
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If Abrams can't do all three, I'm pretty sure Kennedy's gonna be hitting up Affleck.
Chances of him doing one are probably pretty high.
We still probably have Snyder doing his spinoff. And I'd imagine Johnston doing a Boba Fett movie is a possibility, too.
Chances of him doing one are probably pretty high.
We still probably have Snyder doing his spinoff. And I'd imagine Johnston doing a Boba Fett movie is a possibility, too.
If true he DEFINITELY won't be directing it.
If true I'd go as far as to say that Abrams will have burnt his bridges over on the Melrose lot which doesn't seem like him as he's a very smooth political figure in Hollywood.
If anything that's one thing that gives me pause. He's basically napalming his relationship with Paramount which, at one point, was exclusive.
TUROK
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I thought JJ Abrams already directed a Star Wars movie?
http://www.cracked.com/article_19443_7-classic-movies-you-didnt-know-were-rip-offs.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_19443_7-classic-movies-you-didnt-know-were-rip-offs.html
I understand what you mean, but I just think that Episode 7 needs a world builder like Snyder on MoS and not neccessarily a good story teller (the story will rise and fall with the script anyway). It's important that Episode 7 establishes the look and feel of Star Wars going foward, that's where Lucas failed miserably on the prequels and I think Star Trek proves that Abrams is more than capable of doing it. All I know about Affleck is that he's exceptional at presenting real world settings.
I don't even hate Lucas for the prequels. I loved Episode 1 when I was a child and I think Episode 3 is a genuinely great Star Wars film. I know that Kennedy is calling the shots and the one who hired Abrams but bringing in an (vocal) outsider can't be a bad thing (just to be safe).
It's not like he denies it.
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