I'm sorry but this shtick isn't working. I know you're fishing for raises but it comes off as sad.
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Iwata implies he may resign over poor business performance
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I'm sorry but this shtick isn't working. I know you're fishing for raises but it comes off as sad.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
As was pointed out, guess who worked on the development with Retro for the game???
Even you can get that one right.
diffusionx
Gold Member
This is crazy talk.
And completely irrelevant. Metroid Prime's lack of bonafides has nothing to do with Nintendo's current performance. The franchise (I'll count Prime as a separate franchise) has been one of Nintendo's successful ones the past decade+.
Interceptor
Banned
Yeah this makes no sense. According to your logic affiliated companies in a group companies are independent entities which may be true in a formal sense but does not reflect reality in the business world.
Meh, Super was rated as the #2 Nintendo game of all time on this site, with MP at #6. Also Super has higher user scores at Gamefaqs, with over 2000 reviews each.
evilromero
Member
More importantly can Nintendo introduce a steady stream of new IPs to help grow their portfolio into the future? I feel like they've coasted too much on existing franchises over the last two generations with only a few new ideas.
I'm having a discussion!
All the guys that agree with me said so a few pages back, I'm not the only one with these opinions, I'm just not scared of taking on the blind Nintendo fanboys cos I used to be one and if Nintendo was still releasing the same quality consoles and games as the NES, SNES, GB, GBC and GBA and N64 and even the GC then I'd be sitting right next to you on the Iwata Train!
As it stands, mordern Nintendo thinks Animal Crossing is a core game!
All the guys that agree with me said so a few pages back, I'm not the only one with these opinions, I'm just not scared of taking on the blind Nintendo fanboys cos I used to be one and if Nintendo was still releasing the same quality consoles and games as the NES, SNES, GB, GBC and GBA and N64 and even the GC then I'd be sitting right next to you on the Iwata Train!
As it stands, mordern Nintendo thinks Animal Crossing is a core game!
Okay, now you are just being completely ridiculous.
Meanwhile you say things that makes no sense.
That was 5 years ago at that horrible E3. Let it go. You act like they never made a core game since Animal Crossing.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Again, I just want to reiterate that I'm waiting for the villain we deserve.
"This forum deserves a better class of troll, and I'm going to give it to them."
Wii sports was their biggest game last gen.
Hey i agree that iwata should be booted. But i dont think nintendo has a quality issue. Als let people have their animal crossing... geez
Nintendo never sold more hardware than in the Wii and DS era. It doesn't matter what you think, the numbers are speaking a clear story.
Also, why is that Junior using my avatar.
Yamauchi, Arakawa and Lincoln led the industry the same way Stalin and Hitler led their countries , they were tyrants and bullies.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Dude, you said one of the highest rated games of all time was a sad cash in.
When actually it was, no different than Mario 64 or Ocarina of Time, an evolution of a series.
evilromero
Member
Like I said, a few new ideas. The "Wii" series was that idea. Not necessarily the most brilliant idea in branding, but great in execution. The games I loved, Excite, Metroid, Zelda, Mario- are all existing franchises. Nintendo will preserve the freshness of their old IPs if they can come up with new ones as well.
But they got results first party wise. I think Iwata may need to get a bit more buck in his horse if you know what I mean, but not too much. I know he had a large job repairing Nintendo's reputation and personal relationships etc.
But ultimately he's the boss and he has to take crap when things aren't so rosy just like he takes the praise when they did amazingly well.
Nice guys finish last. This is Console Wars not Lets Make Friends.
This is not what you guys want to hear right now but I'll say it, I can take it.
you really don't like to stop, do u?
ShinobiFist
Banned
Word.
Okay... If 80million sold + 30 million for the standalone sequel is not good branding i dont know what is. Also there are other new ips like wii fit, wii party, tomodachi collection, xenoblade, the last story, zangeki no reginleiv, brain age, nintendogs, rhythm tengoku, daigasso band brothers, pikmin to name a few.
Interceptor
Banned
Also, why is that Junior using my avatar.
:O :O
I am sorry. Will change ASAP. Found it online a while ago..
Just give it a mustache! Problem solved
Apart from Xenoblade, most of those of shovelware and low tier bottom feeder games.
N64 gave us Wave Race, 1080 and Animal Crossing as new IP
Captain Smoker
Member
......................... okay then
ShockingAlberto
Member
One problem with the "Nintendo has no new IPs" stuff is that everyone ignores every new IP that does not come straight from Miyamoto.
I don't think anyone paid attention to Wonderful 101 (and most still don't) until Betrayalnetta 2 and the idea that Platinum might be on Wii U for more than one game they want to ignore.
I don't think anyone paid attention to Wonderful 101 (and most still don't) until Betrayalnetta 2 and the idea that Platinum might be on Wii U for more than one game they want to ignore.
Brera, seriously. Stop.
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Out of those, only Mega Man actually started on a Nintendo console and the others started before Nintendo got into the console scene. Stop making shit up.
Edit:
Out of those, only Mega Man actually started on a Nintendo console and the others started before Nintendo got into the console scene. Stop making shit up.
Wonderful 101 should hopefully do really well! It looks awesome and "next gen"
ShockingAlberto
Member
It's an extremely obvious troll, so I'm not sure why everyone keeps rising to the bait?
If the goal was to make sure he gets the last laugh, everyone's doing a good job in aiding him in that.
Well I didn't know, it's not like nobody has a legitimately felt (albeit completely insane) opinion on GAF. Stop being so reasonable.
Steve Youngblood
Member
The other problem I think is that there's plenty of diversity in their catalog to pull from. There's a case to be made that maybe they should try a little harder to pull off more Bayonetta-type projects, but aside from that, if I'm tired of Mario and Zelda, I don't see why I wouldn't just expect them to use some of the B-tier mascots as opposed to new IP in this day and age. I'm not really sure what I'm expecting them to do. "I want EAD to make a third-person cover-based shooter!" Yeah, it's not going to happen.
I wouldn't mind seeing a new F-Zero, or maybe a full-blown Star Fox that focuses on space shooting, or maybe a new Wave Race, or maybe a new... I could go on. But I don't know if I really expect brand spanking new ideas, or if I think they're even necessary. In this risk-averse world, I'd be more than happy just to see more games in their neglected IPs.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
You have to make light of some of them though if they're doing that poorly a job.
How will they get better then???
(read: utter boredom)
Look guys, I'm not trolling.
There are people out there with the same opinions. If there weren't then Nintendo wouldn't be in this mess. I want Nintendo to be on top making awesome games and the rate they did on the GC and right now and for the past 2-3 years they've been off the ball and they coasted through the Wii era with lazy updates.
Mario Kart Wii made me cry and I've it wasn't for Mario Galaxy and Land giving me hope then I would never have bought a WiiU on day 0!
There are people out there with the same opinions. If there weren't then Nintendo wouldn't be in this mess. I want Nintendo to be on top making awesome games and the rate they did on the GC and right now and for the past 2-3 years they've been off the ball and they coasted through the Wii era with lazy updates.
Mario Kart Wii made me cry and I've it wasn't for Mario Galaxy and Land giving me hope then I would never have bought a WiiU on day 0!
No no no no.
He MUST continue. The entertainment offered here is spectacular! Ease up, relax, and pull up a chair man.
I think it's his ATTEMPT at trolling that is making me lol. It's so blatant and elementary. And when it's at such a low level like this you have to watch. Higher level, more sophisticated trolling is a much different ballgame.
No no no no.
He MUST continue. The entertainment offered here is spectacular! Ease up, relax, and pull up a chair man.
I expect more from someone with that Avatar :0(
Yeah then i like shovelware. Got a problem with that Mr. Elitist?
While this is true, I think fans are looking for a new AAA IP from Nintendo. That's why they shove practically every new IP out of the window (with the exception of Xenoblade... almost).
People, especially Nintendo fans, often express their opinion or desire way too generally, like all the "garphics don't matter" arguments, for example.
You are an elitist for claiming that the games that you like should be invested in despite poor commercial performance compared to the games you described as shovelware/bottomfeeder games, as it implies that your opinion should hold higher value to the decisionmaking of nintendo than those of the casual gamers that bought rythm heaven or wii play, despite your taste not being in line with the customerbase nintendo has created.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
There's never been anything crappy or bottomfeeder about Nintendo's expanded audience IP like Miis and Wii-themed world games. Wii Sports Resort is really an incredibly well made production.
Those games offend the sensibility of some fans, and so are recontextualized as trash. Hurt feelings don't a fact make, however.
Those games offend the sensibility of some fans, and so are recontextualized as trash. Hurt feelings don't a fact make, however.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Good grief. Please people - go and look at the GAME thread and see what happens when everyone gives Brera the oxygen he wants...
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