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[TreasureHunterG]

Chasing the wii audience worked, as it propelled the wii to heights that were unimaginable following the n64 and GameCube.

I don't care if Nintendo, MS, and Sony chase that fickle crowd, they just need balance to keep the people that do buy games happy on their console. Nintendo's mass audience wii games were fine for what they were, certainly better than some kinect bullshit, but they also put out a new donkey kong country, a new Zelda, two 3d Mario games, and a bunch of niche stuff for the core gamers.

It "worked", but the Wii audience only bought the system to play a very few selective titles like Wii Sports and Wii Fit, but anything else.

It's not an audience you should rely or treat as a primary above the core audience which Nintendo built among different gaming generations.

 

[ASIS]

Yes but they didn't give us what we wanted.

No new BIG AAA games.

An Awful Zelda.

No Fzero

No 1080

No Metroid

No Wave Race

No Yoshi

Iwata doesn't agree with that though.

Read the OP.

 

[Fox Mulder]

Yes but they didn't give us what we wanted.

No new BIG AAA games.

An Awful Zelda.

No Fzero

No 1080

No Metroid

No Wave Race

No Yoshi

Nintendo does what they want.

They seem to love balloon fight again with Nintendoland and it being the game selected to launch the WiiU VC lineup. Maybe we'll get a AAA Balloon Fight that will make you forget about all of those games.

It would be great to see wave race or fzero again, but maybe we see them again. Nintendo put out a sequel to Sin and Punishment this gen, a japanese only cult classic from the n64 that most people never heard of. They didn't do that for the wii sports audience. It's a critically acclaimed game that's now like $10 on amazon. core games!

 

[Dave Meltzer]

They seem to love balloon fight again with Nintendoland and it being the game selected to launch the WiiU VC lineup.

That or they know launch is the only time anybody would be desperate enough to willingly pay to play Balloon Fight

 

[Brera]

Iwata offers apologies but no solutions.

They need to put me in charge. I'd sort out Nintendo.

1. Phase out 3DS
2. Introduce new GameBoy. Single Screen. No gimmicks. Dual Analog 4 face buttons and 4 shoulder buttons. No touch screen bullshit. Focus on 2D games.
3. USB addon for WiiU adding extra horsepower. Bundle new Starfox game with it.
4. Sack Cena Miyamoto to set an example. Work hard and make good games and you keep your job. Release shit and fuck up other peoples games and YOU get fucked up.
5. Reopen Love Hotels.

 

[StayDead]

Yes but they didn't give us what we wanted.

No new BIG AAA games.

An Awful Zelda.

No Fzero

No 1080

No Metroid

No Wave Race

No Yoshi

I hate to break this to you and you may not like it, but not many people actually care about those series at all.

I love them, but they're hardly system sellers.

 

[Brera]

No one gives a shit about Wii Music but they still released it...

 

[Diablos54]

No one gives a shit about Wii Music but they still released it...

I wouldn't call a few million no-one. I'm willing to bet Wii Music outsold both 1080 and Wave Race.

BTW, I Haven't watched RAW in a while, has the Mad Ox gotten signed yet?

 

[Freezie KO]

Iwata offers apologies but no solutions.

They need to put me in charge. I'd sort out Nintendo.

1. Phase out 3DS
2. Introduce new GameBoy. Single Screen. No gimmicks. Dual Analog 4 face buttons and 4 shoulder buttons. No touch screen bullshit. Focus on 2D games.
3. USB addon for WiiU adding extra horsepower. Bundle new Starfox game with it.
4. Sack Cena Miyamoto to set an example. Work hard and make good games and you keep your job. Release shit and fuck up other peoples games and YOU get fucked up.
5. Reopen Love Hotels.

You should write a book about how to lose money.

 

[TreasureHunterG]

I hate to break this to you and you may not like it, but not many people actually care about those series at all.

I love them, but they're hardly system sellers.

There's a lot of people who actually care.

 

[Brera]

I wouldn't call a few million no-one. I'm willing to bet Wii Music outsold both 1080 and Wave Race.

BTW, I Haven't watched RAW in a while, has the Mad Ox gotten signed yet?

He was last seen getting jumped in a dark corridor by The Sheid after hassling Paul Hayman :-(

 

[Chie Satonaka]

There's a lot of people who actually care.

While I agree, I'm not sure that F-Zero would be the one game that sets the WiiU sales chart on fire.

However, a return to ALL of those franchises would definately make the console more appealing.

I'd definately play a new Wave Race. It's weird that Nintendo abandoned that one.

 

[JazzmanZ]

Iwata offers apologies but no solutions.

They need to put me in charge. I'd sort out Nintendo.

1. Phase out 3DS
2. Introduce new GameBoy. Single Screen. No gimmicks. Dual Analog 4 face buttons and 4 shoulder buttons. No touch screen bullshit. Focus on 2D games.
3. USB addon for WiiU adding extra horsepower. Bundle new Starfox game with it.
4. Sack Cena Miyamoto to set an example. Work hard and make good games and you keep your job. Release shit and fuck up other peoples games and YOU get fucked up.
5. Reopen Love Hotels.

 

[PhantomR]

3. USB addon for WiiU adding extra horsepower. Bundle new Starfox game with it.
4. Sack Cena Miyamoto to set an example. Work hard and make good games and you keep your job. Release shit and fuck up other peoples games and YOU get fucked up.
5. Reopen Love Hotels.

Still not quite Wario64 quality, but this made me laugh. Well done

 

[Cosmonaut X]

You should write a book about how to lose money.

Not quite a book, but close enough:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461488

 

[Diablos54]

He was last seen getting jumped in a dark corridor by The Sheid after hassling Paul Hayman :-(

Really? Fuck that, dude should at least be part of the Shield. But then again, no one should hassle the Hayman, the fuck does he think he is?

 

[Javier]

Hey guys what's going o-

 

[Neiteio]

I think Brera has raised a lot of valid and interesting points. The immense popularity of the Wii... was kind of a fad. I got the system Day One, still have it and love it, but c'mon, let's be real here: millions of people bought it as an icebreaker novelty and didn't exactly fuel game sales after the few Wii-branded titles, if they ever moved beyond Wii Sports in the first place. I don't hear people talking about Wii anymore in the real world. And I've heard -no one- talking about the WiiU. That's part terrible communication on Nintendo's part, failing to build buzz, but it's also partly indicative of flash-in-the-pan success cooling down. That's why Nintendo is more aggressively courting the traditional gamer with promises (earlier than ever) of core goodness to come. They need us to be more than just brand ambassadors; they need us as customers, period.

 

[Brera]

Really? Fuck that, dude should at least be part of the Shield. But then again, no one should hassle the Hayman, the fuck does he think he is?

I'm sure he'll be back!

Vince played a tape of Hayman admitting to paying off Maddox and The Shield to beat up Ryback and just as he was about to get fired, Brock Lesner turned up and F5'd Vince...

 

[Dave Meltzer]

Your posts are almost Mad Ox caliber. Almost.

 

[Brera]

I try my best man!

I believe in Nintendo, it hurts that they are in a mess, I'm just trying to help them out!

 

[Chinpoko_Master]

Iwata offers apologies but no solutions.

They need to put me in charge. I'd sort out Nintendo.

1. Phase out 3DS
2. Introduce new GameBoy. Single Screen. No gimmicks. Dual Analog 4 face buttons and 4 shoulder buttons. No touch screen bullshit. Focus on 2D games.
3. USB addon for WiiU adding extra horsepower. Bundle new Starfox game with it.
4. Sack Cena Miyamoto to set an example. Work hard and make good games and you keep your job. Release shit and fuck up other peoples games and YOU get fucked up.
5. Reopen Love Hotels.

As much as I like the first two, it makes me sad that it's pretty much never going to happen. Nintendo seems to have hard-on for dual-screen bullshit.

 

[Dave Meltzer]

I try my best man!

I believe in Nintendo, it hurts that they are in a mess, I'm just trying to help them out!

I too would love the return of the Gameboy brand

 

[Brera]

3D is the worst thing to happen to handhelds!

The GBA was glorious and pisses all over the DS and 3DS.

 

[JordanN]

As much as I like the first two, it makes me sad that it's pretty much never going to happen. Nintendo seems to have hard-on for dual-screen bullshit.

I didn't know people hated dual screen. The uses for it are infinite.

 

[Brera]

Iwata killed the Gameboy and I will never forgive nor forget.

Clearly a Miyamoto/Iwata conspiracy against the legacy of Nintendo's greatest employee.

 

[qq more]

DS > GBA

 

[Brera]

I didn't know people hated duel screen. The uses for it are infinite.

yes, as a map, inventory screen and fake buttons!

 

[qq more]

yes, as a map, inventory screen and fake buttons!

and games designed around touch screen use like ghost trick and that game was awesome


just sayin

 

[Brera]

DS > GBA

 

[JordanN]

yes, as a map, inventory screen and fake buttons!

Is that suppose to be bad? Why wouldn't you want a screen free of UI clutter?

 

[Brera]

and games designed around touch screen use like ghost trick!

I'd rather play it for free on my iPhone then pay £30 for it on a DS/3DS...

 

[Sandfox]

DS > GBA

this is the truth

 

[farnham]

It "worked", but the Wii audience only bought the system to play a very few selective titles like Wii Sports and Wii Fit, but anything else.

It's not an audience you should rely or treat as a primary above the core audience which Nintendo built among different gaming generations.

Wrong

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/wii.html

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/ds.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Wii_video_games

Also how many10 million plus sellers are there on other platforms anyways?

 

[Brera]

Is that suppose to be bad? Why wouldn't you want a screen free of UI clutter?

 

[qq more]

I'd rather play it for free on my iPhone then pay £30 for it on a DS/3DS...

its 30 dollars now? i remember getting it for 15 or something new

also i dont recall it being free on iPhone but okay man


NOT that any of this has anything to do with my point to begin with

 

[Fox Mulder]

But smartphones...

Nintendo needs a gimmick to survive in the handheld market now. Sony basically put out the wet dream of handhelds, but no one cares.

 

[farnham]

I think Brera has raised a lot of valid and interesting points. The immense popularity of the Wii... was kind of a fad. I got the system Day One, still have it and love it, but c'mon, let's be real here: millions of people bought it as an icebreaker novelty and didn't exactly fuel game sales after the few Wii-branded titles, if they ever moved beyond Wii Sports in the first place. I don't hear people talking about Wii anymore in the real world. And I've heard -no one- talking about the WiiU. That's part terrible communication on Nintendo's part, failing to build buzz, but it's also partly indicative of flash-in-the-pan success cooling down. That's why Nintendo is more aggressively courting the traditional gamer with promises (earlier than ever) of core goodness to come. They need us to be more than just brand ambassadors; they need us as customers, period.

This is wrong and i cant believe people are believing this? How the hell is 9 10 million plus games bad in terms of sales? 360 has 3 of those.

Wii had a very bad 2011 and 2012 that was definately a big mistake but it had great sales from 2006 to 2010. You cant just say 4 years are a fad.

Nintendo definately needs to recapture the non gaming populaton and so far they fell flat. But that doesnt mean that they cant do it in the future

 

[Kevin]

I really like Iwata so I hope he doesn't resign. I also like the Wii U. I do plan on getting the PS4 and next Xbox but I still fully intend to support Wii U as it's finally starting to get some good game announcements that interest me personally.

 

[farnham]

I'd rather play it for free on my iPhone then pay £30 for it on a DS/3DS...

Or hotel dusk? Oh wait you cant

 

[Brera]

its 30 dollars now? i remember getting it for 15 or something new

also i dont recall it being free on iPhone but okay man


NOT that any of this has anything to do with my point to begin with

I got it free a few weeks ago...

 

[Dave Meltzer]

Or hotel dusk? Oh wait you cant

Hotel Dusk is a bad game

 

[Brera]

This is wrong and i cant believe people are believing this? How the hell is 9 10 million plus games bad in terms of sales? 360 has 3 of those.

Wii had a very bad 2011 and 2012 that was definately a big mistake but it had great sales from 2006 to 2010. You cant just say 4 years are a fad.

Nintendo definately needs to recapture the non gaming populaton and so far they fell flat. But that doesnt mean that they cant do it in the future

Wii Play may have 30 million sales but thats like saying 30 million sales of Coke are healthy.

It's all dead calories man. Do you see?

 

[Pachterballs]

Yes but they didn't give us what we wanted.

No new BIG AAA games.

An Awful Zelda. - we'll see. its their tentpole but they can't seem to fix it.

No Fzero - slain by shitty sales

No 1080 - not sure about this but the GC version wasn't good

No Metroid - franchise slain by nintendo fanboys who didn't buy the game. This caught them by surprise.

No Wave Race - yup

No Yoshi - there is one coming ...

I agree with your post for the most parts.

Since skyward sword, they have had game drought on the wii and they don't use the time to make lots of games for wiiU? or try to get 2nd parties to make lots of games? TBD TBD drought right for 2-3 months after console launch...

and before everyone says nintendo games take time to perfect; they're doing a lot of rehashes and even then, sometimes they're not great games when they come out.

 

[partyphone]

video games are just a fad

 

[qq more]

I got it free a few weeks ago...

thats nice man


but i was citing ghost trick as a game that used the touch screen function pretty well to justify the system's "gimmick"

 

[Brera]

I really like Iwata so I hope he doesn't resign. I also like the Wii U. I do plan on getting the PS4 and next Xbox but I still fully intend to support Wii U as it's finally starting to get some good game announcements that interest me personally.

You are what's wrong with the industry.

You defend the dude but refuse to buy his console. Even I own a WiiU. Get out of this thread man!

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

and games designed around touch screen use like ghost trick and that game was awesome


just sayin

And ghost trick released on iOS who has only a single screen?

 

[Kacho]

Wii Play may have 30 million sales but thats like saying 30 million sales of Coke are healthy.

It's all dead calories man. Do you see?

Excellent.

 

[Guevara]

I root for Nintendo but I haven't really liked any of their software in years, hardware in decades.

I hated the DS and touchscreen gaming in general, really I think the Micro was their last compelling product. It just played games (and fantastic games at that).