That's something I hate about buying in Britain, in fact most of the world, is the VAT, sales tax, GST etc isn't included in any pricing. In Australia you can't advertise without GST included. In the states I understand because each state has its own sales tax. But Britain and Europe should be unified nation wide because there is only federal government.
Asahi: PlayStation 4 to be over 40,000 yen
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That's something I hate about buying in Britain, in fact most of the world, is the VAT, sales tax, GST etc isn't included in any pricing. In Australia you can't advertise without GST included. In the states I understand because each state has its own sales tax. But Britain and Europe should be unified nation wide because there is only federal government.
zomgbbqftw
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Kaz should make a special JWong edition with "special features" and refuse to sell him any other version.
Conflict NZ
Member
Wouldn't mind a $499 backwards compatible/larger hard drive SKU
Before I avatar quote you, I just wanna make sure: that is Cortana, right?
zomgbbqftw
Banned
What are you on about man, all B2C companies include VAT in their prices. Only B2B exclude VAT. Also, Europe doesn't have a federal government?!?
On the high street over here companies can't advertise non-VAT prices.
Ill wait for a price drop, even if its a good few years. If it anti used games, I wont even bother.
Same, I would pay extra to get BC definitely. I haven't been able to have a PS3 much this generation because of restraints so it would be awesome to catch up with it next gen.
ChanDangle
Member
Better not have any shortages like the ps3 launch especially since there won't be any complexities like first gen bluray diodes and cell processors.
PaulExcellent
Member
If the consoles are released in September/October, and
the Xbox 720 allows used games: I'll say yes to a $400 PS4 with controller in March, or I'll say yes to a $400 Xbox 720 with controller in December.
If there are no games that call me, then WiiU.
the Xbox 720 allows used games: I'll say yes to a $400 PS4 with controller in March, or I'll say yes to a $400 Xbox 720 with controller in December.
If there are no games that call me, then WiiU.
JonathanPower
Member
I think that making only one sku at 399$ would be a very smart move for Sony.
No one wants history in their games.
TheGreyHulk
Member
$399 is the max you can go if that's you're lowest SKU.
I'm definitely willing to spend $399 on a PS4 this fall.
I'm definitely willing to spend $399 on a PS4 this fall.
Cheesecakebobby
Banned
what are you talking about? The only time tax isn't included in British prices is when you go somewhere like Costco or Makro where you can claim the tax back if you're a business.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Have you not seen Killzone, or Tearaway, or Soul Sacrifice? Sony is definitely having more games out this year that are unannounced, as well as some sort of price drop.
Nintendo can't get Animal Crossing a concrete release date, release proper colors in the US, or give the system a proper online system by 2013 standards. Lost your 3DS? Oh, well you lost your digital downloads, too!
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
They should do what Nissan did with the Leaf electric car and localize production to minimize chances of the yen value wrecking havoc on their profits. I think Apple is talking with suppliers to move Mac production back to the US, Sony should do the same.
Phoenixazure
Member
i think 450 is a good guess on the price
$400-500 seems acceptable for a launch price, ideally $400 or $450. That's still damn expensive, but with how things have been going (especially as they clearly pushed WAY too hard last gen and now had to wait this long to make it worthwhile at 100+ more) I guess it's the best one can hope for.
friskykillface
Banned
make it a SSD hard drive D: 0_o and have BC and i'll pay $499 too.
was expecting $399 so that price is good for me if its just one sku
im ready B^)
VAT is included in advertised prices all over Europe by default, the only exceptions are stores targeted towards business customers (because they may be able to get a tax refund).
I said there is ONLY federal government... can you read?
Well when I was there 6 months ago there were places adding VAT at the register.
Looks like the Sony marketing machine is in full force (?) The positive media for PS4 keeps on coming while there are plenty of negative ones coming out for the 720;
FXAA creator comments on Orbis, Durango (Positive for PS4, Negative for 720)
Eurogamer: Orbis unmasked: what to expect from the next-gen PlayStation (Positive for PS4)
Pachter -PS4 will feature "hyperrealistic games" (Positive for PS4)
Edge: PS4 to launch in Europe in early 2014, US/JP 2013, more powerful than next Xbox (Positive for PS4, Negative for 720)
VG247 Rumor: PS4 > Xbox 720 (Positive for PS4, Negative for 720)
Playstation Meeting trailer: See the Future. Feb. 20th [Will Be Livestreamed] (Positive for PS4)
Asahi: PlayStation 4 to be over 40,000 yen (Positive for PS4) (this thread)
EDGE: The next Xbox: Always online, no second-hand games, 50GB Blu-ray and new kinect (Negative for 720)
EDGE: What Microsofts always-on Xbox means for PlayStation 4 (Positive for PS4, Negative for 720)
(WSJ): Next PlayStation revealed Feb 20th and will be coming this year (Xbox too) (Positive for PS4)
Edge: PS4 to launch in Europe in early 2014, US/JP 2013, more powerful than next Xbox (Positive for PS4, Negative for 720)
FXAA creator comments on Orbis, Durango (Positive for PS4, Negative for 720)
Eurogamer: Orbis unmasked: what to expect from the next-gen PlayStation (Positive for PS4)
Pachter -PS4 will feature "hyperrealistic games" (Positive for PS4)
Edge: PS4 to launch in Europe in early 2014, US/JP 2013, more powerful than next Xbox (Positive for PS4, Negative for 720)
VG247 Rumor: PS4 > Xbox 720 (Positive for PS4, Negative for 720)
Playstation Meeting trailer: See the Future. Feb. 20th [Will Be Livestreamed] (Positive for PS4)
Asahi: PlayStation 4 to be over 40,000 yen (Positive for PS4) (this thread)
EDGE: The next Xbox: Always online, no second-hand games, 50GB Blu-ray and new kinect (Negative for 720)
EDGE: What Microsofts always-on Xbox means for PlayStation 4 (Positive for PS4, Negative for 720)
(WSJ): Next PlayStation revealed Feb 20th and will be coming this year (Xbox too) (Positive for PS4)
Edge: PS4 to launch in Europe in early 2014, US/JP 2013, more powerful than next Xbox (Positive for PS4, Negative for 720)
maquiladora
Member
$399 is around what I'm expecting anyway.
bigboss370
Member
I'm thinking exactly the same thing, but I think that's great. I have no problem paying $499 if the value is there.
400 is about as high as I would go at this point in time. Unless they announce some new ground breaking features not yet rumored or leaked. They are in a tough position, a machine with the a solid leap in specs over the PS3 isnt going to be cheap, but with the roller coaster ride of the economy around the world, 500 plus a console isnt an option for many people. Im really curious how they will handle bc and if it is only on the first design of the PS4, I would pay a little more. My backlog is still pretty long on the PS3 and PC, so if I have to wait for a price drop, I wont be too disappointed.
Pachterballs
Banned
Day 1
But the average consumer won't think, "oh damn, I got this phone for $100 bucks, but I got jacked on my bill!"
the vast majority of them will think "oh damn, this phone is $100 bucks!" and won't think, "damn my costs of living has increased"
And this is overlooking the fact that maybe these "must own items" like the smartphone and tablet are most likely replacing the laptop/computer, a product previously in the "must have category", so...
metalslimer
Member
How does Killzone, Tearaway, or Soul Sacrifice have anything to do with turning thigns around? Luigi's Mansion 2 alone will porbbaly outsell all 3 of those combined. Nintendo may be dropping the ball with the 3DS in the west, but Sony can't even sell their handheld in the territrory where handhelds dominate.
The MS PR people must still be on holiday.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
We don't have federal government, and you must have been at a warehouse store. If you were on a high street they just saw you coming mate.
It is illegal for consumer facing stores to advertise prices without VAT included. It has been for years.
ChanDangle
Member
Because majority of people complained the vita has no games. Since those are coming out the next problem in line (well since launch) is the memory card prices.
BriseFlots
Member
It's only four letters that ereput there for the sake of writing. It's not worth to care about this word... Or so are they thinking?
dragonfart28
Banned
$400 is too expensive no matter what people on GAF think.
That pricepoint will not bring enough sales and that will hamper third party support big time.
Sony needs to bring it down to $350 at least.
That pricepoint will not bring enough sales and that will hamper third party support big time.
Sony needs to bring it down to $350 at least.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
damn sony, spreading fud about microsoft.
he specified the UK not Europe which most definitely has a federal government.
I could just buy $10,000 worth of Uncharted 2 copies.
REMAINSILLY
Member
Seriously starting a savings account for this.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
In what way would you describe the UK as a federal government? We are, and always have been, a constitutional monarchy with representative government.