Yeah I would like to hear official word from SE on this, as I thought the initial reports were encouraging.
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Dragon Quest X is not meeting expectations
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Yeah I would like to hear official word from SE on this, as I thought the initial reports were encouraging.
I don't get it. It performed within expectations early on, they were expecting it to continue to grow on a dying system with a newer port coming out? Someone needs tempered expectations.
Also Square is continuing to flush their name down the toilet. People buy these mobile games based on the fact that FF was once a great property. Now that essentially all the money is made via cashins I wonder if they'll manage to kill the brand?
Also Square is continuing to flush their name down the toilet. People buy these mobile games based on the fact that FF was once a great property. Now that essentially all the money is made via cashins I wonder if they'll manage to kill the brand?
turnbuckle
Member
I've been a fan of the series for over 20 years and as soon as it was shown to be an mmo my interest dwindled. the visuals were less than what I'd expect too.
still curious about the game but I would never buy it if it required a connection and I can't imagine the community would be very vibrant here in the US.
still curious about the game but I would never buy it if it required a connection and I can't imagine the community would be very vibrant here in the US.
FFXI PS2 also performed significantly worse than DQX Wii (130k in the first year). Most of the FFXI subscriber base was on PC.
And as a Wii/WiiU exclusive, even in Japan.
Still, its not a console exclusive MMO, like DQ is. Has there ever been a successful MMO that was console exclusive?
ShockingAlberto
Member
If you had asked me a year ago if a failed MMORPG could take down a company president, I would have told you of course.
Now it seems like a "Well, depends on who they know" answer.
Supermanisdead
Member
Hmm, it seemed like they were satisfied with it and it was making them a profit last time they talked about it. Still, DQ10 as an MMO was a very dumb idea. Should have been a regular DQ game launched on Wii U.
ThatObviousUser
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Maybe they'll actually localize some of their games now. It's the only certain way to boost sales, SE!
Hard to believe we live in an age where a Fire Emblem is localized but multiple mainline DQ games aren't.
Hard to believe we live in an age where a Fire Emblem is localized but multiple mainline DQ games aren't.
electroplankton
Banned
Sales exceeded 600k and apparently there were 400k paying gamers as of the last report (IIRC). They also said development costs were already repaid.
Chie Satonaka
Member
Considering FFXI's success via PlayOnline, the Wii's archaic online might have been a breath of fresh air.
Will still play the shit out of this on WiiU if it comes to NA. Already have a static party ready to go.
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NeededSleep
Member
I know they are desperately trying to find another game that gives revenue that FF11 did.
I wonder if this will tarnish the Dragon Quest name at all. nah doubt it..
I wonder if this will tarnish the Dragon Quest name at all. nah doubt it..
Yea, that's what I thought too. Many PC players of FFXI I've met started out playing the game on PS2. That's all anecdotal of course.
Alex
Member
Not so sure they would have solved anything by launching on the Wii u except to help crutch Nintendo with their own losses.
It should have been a normal DQ game on the Wii or DS or if they were dead set on an MMO, then include PC and go worldwide. Still say they should throw it on the same ticket as FFXIV over here.
I imagine they were thinking more about the Wii U ahead of release. You want to launch an MMO early is a system's life to make the most of the platform's viability, but you want to launch on a high install base for initial return. I think SE did the right thing.
H_Prestige
Banned
There is no way anyone could have seen this coming.
You can't blame that purely on lack of interest. Even when the game was released in Japan, the barrier for entry was so outragously high priced, that no wonder a lot of people didn't get it on PS2 at first. First of all, in Japan FFXI was sold separately from the required accessories. For the longest time, the PS2 HDD was sold from anywhere between $150-200, not to mention the game disc cost probably about $70-90...approx after converted. Then we had the cost of actually playing the game because of the monthly fee. Not to mention that the HDD was actually really hard to find for a long time in Japan too.
Fast forward to when the PS2 version was released in NA, Sony had sabotaged it by announcing the slim PS2 before it was even released in NA. Plus you had to have the network adapter already. Even though FFXI and the HDD were bundled in the states, it was still not an easy sell at $100. I personally thought it was a great deal considering how much it was going for in Japan, but most people may have not seen it that way. Especially with all the lacking reviews, because most game "journalists" at the time did not give the game a fair chance. It was a challenging MMO, and hardly one that most game journalists had the attention span to get into at all.
Once you got past all the hurdles though, I have no regrets from all the money, and hours I put into FFXI, because it was truly a great MMO. Filled with so much content, and a great community, and some of the most rewarding gameplay. You weren't handed everything on a silver platter like WoW, and every MMO since then. You had to talk with others, make new friends, and work hard to reap the benefits. Great game. Sadly it's not quite the same anymore because of them trying to make it more fast and easy to level up in recent years...but I love it for a good 8-9 years.
This is kind of interesting. Even if it doesn't "hold up" over time, you figure it wouldn't take much to make it the most profitable DQ ever. I bet SE comes out soon and says they're perfectly fine with how the game is doing.
(If it is flailing, the Wii U version certainly isn't going to lead some miraculous comeback.)
(If it is flailing, the Wii U version certainly isn't going to lead some miraculous comeback.)
Considering FFXI's success via PlayOnline, the Wii's archaic online might have been a breath of fresh air.
Will still play the shit out of this on WiiU if it comes to NA. Already have a static party ready to go.
FF XI was released in 2002, it was a miracle it actually worked on PS2. And it didn't face so much competence like now. I share your feeling about wanting to play it.
Rocky said:
It was temporally exclusive for 6 months, good enough?
Investors have to feel that Wada's overall strategy is bad for him to get under pressure.
Their social/mobile/online business is performing well, and he's shifting resources toward that, so to at least some degree he seems competent to investors.
test_account
XP-39C²
I dont think it is much of a problem being a MMO, but i think it might have been better if they made a PC SKU as well, not keeping it exclusive to the Wii.
1st Course
Member
I don't believe this is true at all, the game is only playable on the fat PS2 models and these things got discounted almost a decade ago.
That's why I'm wondering what type of speculation this is.
it's almost as if releasing it as the last major game of a console's life and the first major game of another's was a poor decision.
NeededSleep
Member
Id pay for DQX online mmo on vita >.>
Gonna be a real shame to see most of the talent that was SE being shifted to mobile.
Gonna be a real shame to see most of the talent that was SE being shifted to mobile.
I think we'd need to find the MSN Japan article, but I can't search effectively in Japanese.
Indeed, but that seems very likely to me. They've done these two out of the norm, seems fitting to have a return to something traditional next time around. Hopefully it's Wii U, not 3DS.
Man , thats not what i like to hear. I'm not a fan of their mobile games at all. Their original games have no life in them and feel like cheap Korean RPG games.
I don't understand. The number of copies sold isn't the problem, so people bought it, they just aren't continuing to play it (presumably). So I'm not sure what that has to do with what you just said.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Not on Wii it isn't...So, it's not coming to the West?
To the surprise of nobody, a subscription based MMORPG in an era where subscription based games are failing, based off a franchise that's never had an MMO before, from a company who has a previous failure in the MMORPG market, is failing to meet expectations.
Is the actual quality of the game good? It seemed to get good reviews, but you never know how trustworthy those are regarding a Wii MMORPG.
I'd like to give it a try myself, but I'm almost certainly going to be waiting for the WiiU English release.
Is the actual quality of the game good? It seemed to get good reviews, but you never know how trustworthy those are regarding a Wii MMORPG.
I'd like to give it a try myself, but I'm almost certainly going to be waiting for the WiiU English release.
Isn't DQIX the best selling Dragon Quest ever? And DQX is already profitable, even though it has only been released in one region. If they ever release it on more than one platform worldwide (maybe PC in addition to WiiU) and it becomes even somewhat successful, it'll be everything but a flop. Plus like with Final Fantasy after XI, they will 200% surely go back to a non-MMO Dragon Quest with XI, so it's not like fans who don't care for MMOs have anything to bitch about.
Final Fantasy had never had a MMO before XI either yet FFXI is the most profitable JRPG ever (and a good one at that).
H_Prestige
Banned
A game like DQ8 but without random battles is mouthwatering. Unfortunately DQXI will be on 3DS. There's really no way it won't.
So this line I think?
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electroplankton
Banned
Or maybe just kids kept playing it
Btw, the game charted during holidays in Japan, so it surely had some nice legs for being a MMORPG.