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Aliens: Colonial Marines demo vs. final build
- Thread starter SolidSnakex
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The labels are wrong for about two minutes of the video, it says so in the video description.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
- 6 years in development.
- Deceptive demo.
- Using the developmental time for Borderlands and Duke Nukem.
- Putting Aliens aside for other projects.
- Outsourcing the game to other developers and not giving them enough recognition on what they did; they lied in every interview what other companies are working on.
- Speaking of lying, every interview of theirs is a big lie where they say its the best thing ever and it looks and plays like major shit.
- Releasing a broken, incomplete, piece of QA-nightmare's shit in order to meet the extended, extended, and extended deadline to avoid re-certification.
The Mana Legend
Banned
None of these are reasons to sue, other than maybe the outsourcing part.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
According to an anonymous source on Reddit (who may or may not be telling the truth), Gearbox kept negotiating delays for the game and then working on Borderlands 2 while outsourcing the campaign to that other dev house. If that's the case then I can definitely see grounds for some sort of action by Sega, although whether or not they would succeed remains to be seen.
Needless to say, at the very least Gearbox has poisoned the well and may be less likely to get licenses from other publishers after the disaster that is Colonial Marines.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
Do you have annotations turned off? They accidentally switched demo/final labels for at least two minutes of the video.
This whole thing is bizarre, because making a bait-and-switch demo while also making an inferior version seems like more work than just trying to make a real game out of the demo.
OP should link to the video on their website which has the fixed labels: http://www.videogamer.com/videos/al...ll_happened_to_aliens_colonial_marines_2.html
My attempt at stirring up something kinda falls flat when it looks like I'm serious because of that mistake, damn
You can't tell the differences of the atmospheric lighting and the foggy smoke?
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
It's the exact same part of the game. Nothing actually happens in the final version.
At this point I wouldn't put it past them using the money to work on Borderlands, while outsourcing Colonial Marines.
Something happened here.
That's (part of) the problem, where did the Xenomorphs went in that section?
That isn't how version control software usually works...
Eighty Deuce
Banned
Its Diablo 3 bait and switch all over again.
Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
Gearbox woke up. Why don't you? You're a consumer. An expendable asset. And Gearbox used Timegate to get the job done, got it?
Believe.
Just curious, how did D3 bait-and-switch?
Someone accidentally tagged 3 year old code as Gold, and it got sent to the printers?
/P
On the consumer end this is quite common. Especially in the early days of new hardware (MGS4 for example). Don't want to call false advertising when games are always a work in progress. The ad for the game doesn't use this footage does it? While I doubt Sega wasn't well aware of what was going on it would be pretty crazy if they were actually delaying and outsourcing to finish Borderlands. Still Sega agreed to the outsourcing...
For real. >_<
Samurai_Heart
Member
I remember some kind of PR where they said they retooled the UE3 to create "Next gen" lightings, guess not =/
7.8 instead of a 5.4, released on 360/PS3 six months later.
That's a good point. Situational awareness is significantly reduced on consoles due to how long it takes you to turn around with the thumbsticks. This is why some games are designed to not attack you from behind too often(the console version of L4D is like this).
Only the UI seems different to me =/
It's pretty obvious Gear Box spent time and money meant for Aliens development on BL2. The gulf in quality in those two titles is too large to ignore, especially when you consider that both titles were in active development simultaneously and that both shipped from the same studios.It would also explain why there were so many extra development houses working on Aliens. Gear Box gave development of Aliens to those other studios while they worked on Border Lands 2.
Sega suing Randy and company would not be at all surprising at this point.
Sega suing Randy and company would not be at all surprising at this point.
GillianSeed79
Member
AvP was actually a guilty pleasure of mine. I'm not going to try and argue it was a 9 or 10 game, but I found it pretty fun. Me and my friends had a blast with multiplayer, matchmaking issues and limited map selection aside, and it was kind of refreshing.
You know, even if Gearbox hit it out of the park with Colonial Marines, I personally just think it would actually be hard to make an entertaining game based on Aliens. The nature of the Xenomorphs themselves means you are fighting the same enemy over and over again, and I just don't find endless firefights with a bunch of Xenomorphs fun. In AvP, the marine campaign is the only one I didn't finish because it was just so boring. Playing as an Alien or Predator was much more fun and refreshing.
I honestly think the best way to do an Aliens game is to try to replicate Alien. Some sort of survival horror/RE3 thing where the Alien is actually menacing and powerful. The sense of power of Xenomorphs being smart killing machines from the films has never translated well into games IMO.
I will say I did have fond memories of that Aliens Trilogy PS1 game, but I haven't played it in more than a decade.
Samurai_Heart
Member
With extra Marines' and Alien costumes=P
Anton Sugar
Member
giancarlo123x
Banned
Yup, that's Diablo 3.
That's really very striking and quite odd.
I mean, there's nothing about the demo that looks unattainable on a modern PC (or even the consoles in the right hands). More confusing is the fact that a lot of of the stuff that changed wouldn't really require significant asset creation or anything (the models are all very much the same, it seems). They simply changed the way the lighting works and dialed down the effects. It's a very plain looking game.
I mean, I could see the behavior in the demo being completely scripted but everything else is very strange.
I mean, there's nothing about the demo that looks unattainable on a modern PC (or even the consoles in the right hands). More confusing is the fact that a lot of of the stuff that changed wouldn't really require significant asset creation or anything (the models are all very much the same, it seems). They simply changed the way the lighting works and dialed down the effects. It's a very plain looking game.
I mean, I could see the behavior in the demo being completely scripted but everything else is very strange.
Haunted
Member
what the FUCK
The only reasons I can think of to dial down effects like that are
1) if they're broken and you can't get them to work properly or
2) to raise the framerate in a last ditch effort when you have a deadline looming
Seems they had to do this to reach playable framerates for the console versions? And the PC version suffered with it.
what a goddamn mess
The only reasons I can think of to dial down effects like that are
1) if they're broken and you can't get them to work properly or
2) to raise the framerate in a last ditch effort when you have a deadline looming
Seems they had to do this to reach playable framerates for the console versions? And the PC version suffered with it.
what a goddamn mess
Try Aliens Infestation on the DS. It's a metroidvania and a very good Aliens game, it has the sounds, the action and the tension and generally enough nods to the Aliens movie that it feels directly connected. Its very much worth picking up
Eighty Deuce
Banned
combining spell effects, death animations, ladders
For 4+ year old vids, I really can't tell the difference that much, and I finished D3. But it may go beyond the look/feel of the game, which I wouldn't get since I'm not hardcore into it.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Yup same here. It really does look like a completely different game. I don't like being sold a load of lies and it looks like most of how nice it looked was just that. Game is off my buy list now. Shame too.