My wallet is running away in terror.
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My wallet is running away in terror.
PeterVenkman
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Hey GAF,
So I bought a fightstick a year back hoping I could dedicate enough time to get into fighting games more - shockingly I didn't, and despite a summer of moderate practice I simply haven't used it since . This is the second time I thought I could jump in, and the second time I'm looking to sell. I'm wondering what a reasonable asking price would be for a lightly used MadCatz StreetFighter IV Tournament Edition Round 2 PS3 would be. I'll probably be posting it up in the Sell Thread soon, but I'm trying to get an idea of what I should be listing as.
So I bought a fightstick a year back hoping I could dedicate enough time to get into fighting games more - shockingly I didn't, and despite a summer of moderate practice I simply haven't used it since . This is the second time I thought I could jump in, and the second time I'm looking to sell. I'm wondering what a reasonable asking price would be for a lightly used MadCatz StreetFighter IV Tournament Edition Round 2 PS3 would be. I'll probably be posting it up in the Sell Thread soon, but I'm trying to get an idea of what I should be listing as.
MarkMan
loves Arcade Sticks
So cool! I love the clear Sanwa buttons and clear balltop. I'm tired of bubbles.
TheFightingFish
Member
Good gravy that HRAP is fantastic. Just the parts that I would use as well, I use a LS-32 for fighters and shooters and I like buttons with a little more "push" to them versus the usual Sanwa fighter buttons. Such a shame about the MS required colored buttons, the green, yellow and red just do not fit into the overall color theme, should have been just blue and / or black buttons.
Seconding the Lizard Lick comments from above as well. When I got the parts for my custom stick they had everything that I needed, good service, and solid prices. Shame that they are out of business.
Seconding the Lizard Lick comments from above as well. When I got the parts for my custom stick they had everything that I needed, good service, and solid prices. Shame that they are out of business.
I'm just finishing my arcade stick but I have a slight issue.
I am using an Xbox360 wired controller for my board and I have no 3K only 2 light kick buttons. The right bumper which I have set up to be my 3K will only do a light kick. Anyone have any guesses to whats happening with it?
I am using an Xbox360 wired controller for my board and I have no 3K only 2 light kick buttons. The right bumper which I have set up to be my 3K will only do a light kick. Anyone have any guesses to whats happening with it?
Hmmm? So you soldered from your wired controller PCB to your buttons and are having that issue? I'd first go to controller settings and make sure every button is different just in case you have two light button settings or one macro that looks like a light button (i.e. if you're crouching and you have a button set to throw, it'll look like light kick on SF4). If that's not the problem, it looks like you either accidentally soldered both buttons to lk or you probably have a short or spilled solder on your board or something. I'm no expert on this stuff so definitely get a second opinion, but I mess around with PCBs every once in a while.
I'm no expert either, but if I managed to some how connect 2 connections that are on opposite sides of the board I would be pretty impressed with myself. I checked the button config and they are all different, I also checked the soldering job and it looks to be pretty clean.
Edit: it's definitely a light kick and not a grab too.
Edit: it's definitely a light kick and not a grab too.
Is your controller common ground? If it's not, that can cause your PCB to read two buttons as the same even if they're different.
Hm, well I figured out they aren't on the same connection at all. The weird part is none of my buttons if I change their configuration can do 3kick.
Edit: another weird thing is it works perfectly fine in a menu screen or the Xbox home menu but if I go in game and it's not set to arcade stick mode almost nothing works.
Edit: another weird thing is it works perfectly fine in a menu screen or the Xbox home menu but if I go in game and it's not set to arcade stick mode almost nothing works.
...Wait what? That doesn't sound right at all.
Every button should send a signal to the game saying what button is being pressed. That button is then associated with an action in game. If your stick is screwing up, then it should just have the same signal sent each time you press the button.
Here's an idea: plug it into your computer, then go to controllers and see if all the buttons register differently on there.
I did that before I plugged it into the Xbox, everything worked fine there. All the buttons register differently that's certain right now, but for some reason it just can't manage to do a 3kick? I can change the button to anything but 3kick and Focus attack. It can do grabs 3punch though...
Yeah this makes no sense to me since the button registers it should do the action in game...
Edit: I'll plug it into the computer again, maybe something changed.
Edit 2: So I plugged it in again and everything shows up as a separate button and registers.
Yeah this makes no sense to me since the button registers it should do the action in game...
Edit: I'll plug it into the computer again, maybe something changed.
Edit 2: So I plugged it in again and everything shows up as a separate button and registers.
Everytime you set something to 3K it comes up as light kick? And you're verifying that via the Show Inputs option in game and not just visually?
EDIT: Don't mean for it to sound like you haven't already tried all this; this is just super bizarre. Never heard of something like this and I used to troll Tech Talk quite a bit.
It's fine.
It's definitely a light kick. Even if I hit all 3 kick buttons at once I can at best do a Medium + heavy kick. I think there might be a problem with the board? I mean this really makes no sense to me. I might have a piece of solder somewhere else on the board I haven't noticed shorting it perhaps?
I mentioned that if I bind 3kick to any other button it also only registers as a light kick right?
It's definitely a light kick. Even if I hit all 3 kick buttons at once I can at best do a Medium + heavy kick. I think there might be a problem with the board? I mean this really makes no sense to me. I might have a piece of solder somewhere else on the board I haven't noticed shorting it perhaps?
I mentioned that if I bind 3kick to any other button it also only registers as a light kick right?
Okay so if you press all three buttons, you only get MK+HK, but if you bind 3k to one button you only get LK?
Have you tried plugging it into a different USB port?
StarCreator
Member
I think you really need to refer to your buttons as their Xbox designations (A, B, X, Y, LB, RB, LT, RT).
Are you trying to wire to LT or RT? You need extra hardware to pass digital inputs to those. Most controller mods I see just leave those two completely unbound.
Are you trying to wire to LT or RT? You need extra hardware to pass digital inputs to those. Most controller mods I see just leave those two completely unbound.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Is 350 a good price for the original VLX?
I think he's just trying to wire to RB. RT would require a trigger mod or whatever. Although you bring up a good point. I thought he was just going to wire to the 6 buttons, but then why would he need 3K? Generally you need 8 buttons to use 3K/3P.
My triggers work fine. I have 8 buttons. Mod? I mean I just unsoldered them and put a resistor through it and they work fine.
I have been refering to my buttons by their name. right bumper is traditionally called right bumper. 3K is the move I want it to do, which it can't. In fact the name of the buttons is absolutely irrelevant because I can't get 3K to work at all, I think I probably had a piece of solder fall onto the board or something and it's shorting it or messing it up. Kind of ruled out wiring issue, probably just sloppy soldering.
Edit: Wait, I take it you're referring to the picture? I only called it light kick because I was being lazy, it was A. But it was just to show the distance between A and RB to show that I couldn't have them triggering the same thing.
Converted my HSS-0130 that I just got last week to a one-player shooter stick. Took a little bit of effort but worth it.
Original stick as stock. You can see the buttons are a slightly different color than the balltops. This has to do with age and also that they are not actually Seimitsu buttons:
Since there is precious little on the web about what is actually in this stick I post pics here. First time getting into a stick in a couple of years.
Here is the PCB where the two start buttons and two 8-button player sides connect
All the buttons are Sega proprietary and are soldered. Each side is a slightly different layout and PCB differs to accomodate. Sticks are the favored LS-32.
I'm not using the old panel but the buttons are connected via a little notch on the panel. so If you just want to switch buttons on this stick then a little filing or dremeling will be need to get rid of those notches:
The two start buttons get their own little PCB:
Here is the single player Astro panel's wiring I'm replacing it with. I had an extra I got a few years back...Akihabara shop makes you buy the single player panels in packs of two: one pink and one green. The green wire thing is a ground for the cabinet, but I'm just leaving that in there, coiled around the LS-32.
New panel put in place. I'm going to be using the green side PCB:
Here I've chopped all the wires and grounds from the arcade panel and then simply resoldered them into the original PCB that came in the HSS-0130. I've coiled the grounding wire around the LS-32 since it will not be used. Put this back in, plug it to the original PCB then seal and everything is good to go!
Final stick with new one-player panel for shooters!
Original stick as stock. You can see the buttons are a slightly different color than the balltops. This has to do with age and also that they are not actually Seimitsu buttons:
Since there is precious little on the web about what is actually in this stick I post pics here. First time getting into a stick in a couple of years.
Here is the PCB where the two start buttons and two 8-button player sides connect
All the buttons are Sega proprietary and are soldered. Each side is a slightly different layout and PCB differs to accomodate. Sticks are the favored LS-32.
I'm not using the old panel but the buttons are connected via a little notch on the panel. so If you just want to switch buttons on this stick then a little filing or dremeling will be need to get rid of those notches:
The two start buttons get their own little PCB:
Here is the single player Astro panel's wiring I'm replacing it with. I had an extra I got a few years back...Akihabara shop makes you buy the single player panels in packs of two: one pink and one green. The green wire thing is a ground for the cabinet, but I'm just leaving that in there, coiled around the LS-32.
New panel put in place. I'm going to be using the green side PCB:
Here I've chopped all the wires and grounds from the arcade panel and then simply resoldered them into the original PCB that came in the HSS-0130. I've coiled the grounding wire around the LS-32 since it will not be used. Put this back in, plug it to the original PCB then seal and everything is good to go!
Final stick with new one-player panel for shooters!
Very cool! Wish I had something just as good to follow up with. The world of arcade sticks is still very new to me; haven't even played a fighting game since Street Fighter II Turbo. Tried Persona 4 Arena recently because I heard it was good for newbies. I dig the presentation, but it isn't that much fun to actually play. Is there a better choice for someone who hasn't played fighting games in ~20 years? Trying Daifukkatsu in an arcade got me giddy though, so here it is:
-Drilled an RJ45 jack in the corner and blocked the original USB cable hole with some electrical tape
-Replaced a few buttons and switched the standard JLF with a silent. I really like the silent stick. On top of being quieter, it's also much easier to replace switches since there's no PCB. No soldering or proprietary connectors! I wanted to use a Fanta, but I'm most comfortable with the N64 analog stick, so a Sanwa with an octagonal gate has been great. I'd like to try Star Fox 64 with this!
I've looked into quieter buttons too, but I don't like the feel of the OBSFS and I can't switch out the rims with the Gamerfinger (gotta have my colored buttons). This was my first stick mod ever (and first time drilling through metal), but I'm pretty happy with it. The Omni wasn't built to house a PS360 though, so the PCB just sits in there, wedged between the screws to keep it in place. If a theoretical Omni 4 would support more PCBs and could be hinged together (rather than use 7 screws on the bottom), this would probably be the perfect stick for me. Still can't get the PS1 to work with it, but I'll try again next year with newer firmware.
I only want to own one arcade stick, ever. As long as this can take ~50 years of Cave shooters, then I'll be set!
-Took a Sanwa Omni Arcade 3 and switched out the Paewang board with a PS360+
-Drilled an RJ45 jack in the corner and blocked the original USB cable hole with some electrical tape
-Replaced a few buttons and switched the standard JLF with a silent. I really like the silent stick. On top of being quieter, it's also much easier to replace switches since there's no PCB. No soldering or proprietary connectors! I wanted to use a Fanta, but I'm most comfortable with the N64 analog stick, so a Sanwa with an octagonal gate has been great. I'd like to try Star Fox 64 with this!
I've looked into quieter buttons too, but I don't like the feel of the OBSFS and I can't switch out the rims with the Gamerfinger (gotta have my colored buttons). This was my first stick mod ever (and first time drilling through metal), but I'm pretty happy with it. The Omni wasn't built to house a PS360 though, so the PCB just sits in there, wedged between the screws to keep it in place. If a theoretical Omni 4 would support more PCBs and could be hinged together (rather than use 7 screws on the bottom), this would probably be the perfect stick for me. Still can't get the PS1 to work with it, but I'll try again next year with newer firmware.
I only want to own one arcade stick, ever. As long as this can take ~50 years of Cave shooters, then I'll be set!
Got a deal for you fellas, not sure how good it is as I don't know much about FightSticks.
Mad Catz Street Fighter X Tekken - Arcade FightStick PRO -$99
Mad Catz Street Fighter X Tekken - Arcade FightStick PRO -$99
hikarutilmitt
Member
In your picture I see two lines for each button, but the pcb should be common ground. What controller did you pull this from, a generic or the official ms wired pad?
So, Omnis were supposed to be available again 2-3 weeks ago, but that's not the case and Etokki's been silent on the topic. Bleh, so much for waiting for a new batch.
I'm looking at the EightArc Fusion instead, how's the build quality of it? The Ivory one looks sexy, but I saw a mention on Shoryuken of wiggly buttons/Quanbas in general being (more) prone to issues? Difficult to search Shoryuken right now due to their forum update :/
I'm looking at the EightArc Fusion instead, how's the build quality of it? The Ivory one looks sexy, but I saw a mention on Shoryuken of wiggly buttons/Quanbas in general being (more) prone to issues? Difficult to search Shoryuken right now due to their forum update :/
The stock buttons on the TE are Sanwa OBSF-30 snap-in, they come in a variety of colors. You can use basically any 30mm buttons though.
s-bojan
Banned
None of the xbox 360 sticks will work on a new xbox, if the rumors are correct.
Well, the rumor is that old *wireless* controllers won't work because they are switching to a different setup. Hopefully legacy wired controllers still work.
That said, I don't plan on replacing my JP 360 (a.k.a. "Cave Box") any time soon.
Pink
Oh! In that case solid buttons with a clear ring are pretty awesome and people tend to forget that they even exist.
I just put in my order for a EightArc Fusion. I'd kick myself for spending so much on a stick if I wasn't so giddy.
e: And it just shipped. Holy fuck that's fast.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
uhh guys
StarCreator
Member
You'll need to specify which console it's for, and the buy/sell/trade thread is probably a better place.
I've always wanted a controller that is a high-quality pad and then arcade buttons on the right- would be exactly what I need for KOF, where I always struggle with either hops or buttons (pad buttons are terrible)