Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.
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rosaceadude2112
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Just quoting this again since I realized I've seen this distinction being made more than once and its kinda bugging me. If a story isn't told, it doesn't exist. A story is how it's told and the quality of said story can only be discussed in terms of how it's told.
Lumpy Onion
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The amount of firefights in Uncharted bothers me, where I loved the exploration and puzzle sections. I would seriously play an Uncharted game with 90% puzzle and exploration with some shooting. And Drake having wise-cracks for many of his kills makes him seem like a sociopath. I know it's an action movie thing to do, but when it happens all the time it feels strange and makes me rather uncomfortable tbh.
Same thing with Mass Effect 2's "yeah headshot!" kind of stuff party members yell out. It all seems so bloodthirsty and tasteless. It's funny that the killing itself doesn't bother me as much as these little victory quips. Pretty sure I'm alone on this one though lol
Same thing with Mass Effect 2's "yeah headshot!" kind of stuff party members yell out. It all seems so bloodthirsty and tasteless. It's funny that the killing itself doesn't bother me as much as these little victory quips. Pretty sure I'm alone on this one though lol
DidntKnowJack
Member
Agree 100%
I also thought Saints Row 3 was garbage. Can't believe GiantBomb raved about it so much. They convinced me to buy it, and I think I sold it within 2 weeks.
Red Arremer
Member
Shadow of the Colossus is boring and way too overrated. Plus the controls are shit.
FF13 is a good game.
CD-i Zelda games are more fun than Ocarina of Time.
FF13 is a good game.
CD-i Zelda games are more fun than Ocarina of Time.
The best game ever made is Star Control 2. Captain Fwiffo is the greatest character ever created in a video game. Korh-Ah has the best voice track of any character ever.
There's a theme there.
In reality, it sucks to see it not remembered as well this many years after.
There's a theme there.
In reality, it sucks to see it not remembered as well this many years after.
SirUltimos
Member
Resistance 2 is quite possibly the worst FPS ever made.
Glad I'm not the only one. I bought it off PSN and beat the first Colossus and haven't played it since.
MajorGravy
Neo Member
I strongly dislike the new Final Fantasies. (characters and storywise especially)
FF VII is one of the worst games ever made.
Sonic 06 had major flaws but could have been made into a decent game by removing most of the non-sonic segments and bugs.
Old 2D Sonics are terrible games.
The best Metroid Prime was hunters, but I didn't enjoy any of them that much.
Sonic 06 had major flaws but could have been made into a decent game by removing most of the non-sonic segments and bugs.
Old 2D Sonics are terrible games.
The best Metroid Prime was hunters, but I didn't enjoy any of them that much.
legacyzero
Banned
You really think so?? I thought it was passable. Obviously not as good as the N64 version.
I have to agree. I love the game personally, but file this one under Ubisoft's lack of understanding potential.
Red Arremer
Member
I wouldn't call that controversial...
The critique of the industry and other games of its type is hard to miss. The
white phosphorus
I actually liked the blunt nature of the load screens in a "the game is practically begging you to stop playing it" sense (which, according to the game's lead writer on a spoiler podcast, is something they want you to feel). But sure, not every single line of dialogue works. The "everything" line you quoted is clunky.
Here are some examples of storytelling through conventional gameplay tropes in Spec Ops that I think add a lot to the experience:
- The misdirection of the enemies you fight in the game's opening
.before having you fight other American soldiers for the majority of the game
- The increasing intensity of the commands and shouts between you and your squadmates.
- The similar evolution in the barbarism of the one hit kill moves.
- Spoilery:
the way that enemies towards the end became terrified of you and would stop fighting and try to run away at various points
- I also think that the
were very well done and were often subtle. And I don't think that the ending qualifies as a "twist ending" in the traditional sense whenPTSD hallucinations. If anything, it reinforiced the game's themes by showing you the lengths Walker had gone to to convince himself that he was a hero.you already knew that Walker was hallucinating and unreliable
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I thought I was the only one. I really can't stand the games because it felt like I was watching the games more than playing them. And by "watching cutscenes", I mean watching cutscenes that seem to take 20 hours to move forward. That's the type of stuff I can't stand in games at all.
The URTV subplot in XS2 was alright, though. More of that was needed.
Even when FF7 was announced and before/after it was released, people were saying it was the worst FF ever. People didn't like how cinematic it was, some people likely didn't like the shift in character design, etc. I imagine the fallout with respect to FF7 now is partially because of the compilation titles (ie: their tone, some of the differences in characterization for some characters, inclusion of characters who had no business in the universe in the first place, etc).
Every single Final Fantasy game is divisive and opinions tend to shift after a while. Never think that any Final Fantasy game is overall held in high esteem by everyone because they aren't.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
It probably ruined the series and might even be worse (a lot worse) than ME3's ending.
RawkHawk2010
Member
That gameplay isn't the only important part of a game.
(And that I think Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts is the best in the series.)
(And that I think Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts is the best in the series.)
I chalk it down to not having played many games last year, or at least not having played Spec Ops. To see it flirt with some of the points Spec Ops is raising and then treating it in such a vapid way was really grating to me. Then again some people don't mind vapidness and really enjoy MMO like collectathons whose only reward is that a number goes to 100%, these people are keeping the medium back.
famfrit
Member
I hate you!
I'd say that you cannot really have a good story that's told badly, but you can have a mediocre story that's told very well. Although it is pretty diffuse and you could argue otherwise. In this case the 'Heart of Darkness' story was nothing new, but player agency being conducive to feelings of guilt, that's practically the first time for any entertainment medium ever.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Western developers can't do shit compared to Russian/Japanese ones
handhelds are better than consoles
handhelds are better than consoles
famfrit
Member
This one is begging to be banned... where's gaf moderation ?
Alan Wake was one of the best gaming experiences i've had. Those that say the combat is repitive missed the amazing story and incredible atmosphere. Definitely made me rethink looking to gaf for gaming advice. (Which can normqally be summed up in Madden and Cod are awful, anything rooted in 90sJapanese culture is win.)
I am in tears of laughter.
Hm. I'd have to think longer on it but at first thought I don't really have any "controversial" gaming opinions.
Edit: I suppose one could be that I don't find Dragon Age 2 to be a totally shitty game. A let down, sure, but one that probably could have been called Dragon Age: Kirkwall and gotten away with being a spinoff to tide people over until the real Dragon Age 2. I'm pretty sure its reception led to DA 3 undergoing a longer development time. We'll see if that pays off.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
He's right about Shadow of the Colossus. Most overrated game. Bad controls and foggy and muddy visuals. I don't understand the hype for it. Ico was superior. SotC is rated the way it is probably because it's artsy-fartsy and oh-so different. This game would probably be up there with Colonial Marines if it weren't for that.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Western devs have more money and can do yearly releases but I never see the magic of Japanese games, I play tons of Western games and they end up being forgettable(I pretty much only like what Retro Studios and Valve releases, some exceptions like Bioshock and Deus Ex but that's it)
Mario is garbage.
FF12-13X/XX are pure and genuine garbage, gaffers need to play better jrpgs.
gears of war is garbage.
mass effect is garbage.
Pokemon first gen is the best gen, deal with it.
Half-Life 2 is overrated as fuck.
Persona 4 is overrated as fuck, seriously gaf.
Vagrant Story has a garbage gameplay and it's a fact.
Ico is so fucking overrated as well, SOTC ten times better.
tales of graces f is complete garbage, deal with it Magnvs.
I wasn't serious about Mario. :*
also LoL is shit filled with shit, Dota is better and you just gotta deal with it.
FF12-13X/XX are pure and genuine garbage, gaffers need to play better jrpgs.
gears of war is garbage.
mass effect is garbage.
Pokemon first gen is the best gen, deal with it.
Half-Life 2 is overrated as fuck.
Persona 4 is overrated as fuck, seriously gaf.
Vagrant Story has a garbage gameplay and it's a fact.
Ico is so fucking overrated as well, SOTC ten times better.
tales of graces f is complete garbage, deal with it Magnvs.
I wasn't serious about Mario. :*
also LoL is shit filled with shit, Dota is better and you just gotta deal with it.
I agree with him, I enjoyed Ico much better.
Lumpy Onion
Member
Ni no Kuni is incredibly boring.
MGS2 and MGS4 are terrible games.
I almost thought this post was by me thanks to you having the same avatar as my old one
I almost thought this post was by me thanks to you having the same avatar as my old one
The Mana Legend
Banned
Yeah, people who say "Star Ocean 3 ruined 1 and 2's storylines!" really have no idea what they're talking about, especially since every Star Ocean pretty much has the same plot anyways. All about overpowered dudes that come out of nowhere and want to destroy the universe. They are, in no way, effected by the plot twist in SO3.
Hell, the dude that wrote the Star Ocean games said the plot twist was planned from the beginning, and if you replay the games now, you catch almost every single hint and clue towards that.
- The Tales series is superior to FF in every aspect.
- Koei's Samurai Warriors and Capcom's Sengoku BASARA are actually fun and great series
- KOF is better than Street Fighter. In fact, SF is the worst fighting game franchise.
- FFIII is better than VII, VIII, X, X-2, XIII and XIII-2
- First and second gen Pokemon designs are balls compared to recent entries, with gen 3 being the best
- Mario 3DLand was easy, boring, and bland
- Koei's Samurai Warriors and Capcom's Sengoku BASARA are actually fun and great series
- KOF is better than Street Fighter. In fact, SF is the worst fighting game franchise.
- FFIII is better than VII, VIII, X, X-2, XIII and XIII-2
- First and second gen Pokemon designs are balls compared to recent entries, with gen 3 being the best
- Mario 3DLand was easy, boring, and bland
-FF VIII is complete and utter garbage.
-Final Fantasy X is a terrible game and Final Fantasy has been bad since that entry.
-The Kingdom Hearts games are complete garbage.
-The MGS games aren't very good.
-The Uncharted games are completely average games, the only thing above average about them are the graphics and even then the graphics are overrated.
-No one would care about the majority of Sony's first party IPs if Sony weren't the ones making them.
-Team ICO are overrated.
-Final Fantasy X is a terrible game and Final Fantasy has been bad since that entry.
-The Kingdom Hearts games are complete garbage.
-The MGS games aren't very good.
-The Uncharted games are completely average games, the only thing above average about them are the graphics and even then the graphics are overrated.
-No one would care about the majority of Sony's first party IPs if Sony weren't the ones making them.
-Team ICO are overrated.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Didn't he also say Star Ocean 4 was a "new universe" with similar connections but didn't actually take place
in the Eternal Sphere and hence, was not a simulation? It was kind of a "reboot" of the series?
WiiredShawn
Member
I can agree to this much.
Also, is saying that Alan Wake is at best boring and at worst nauseating from a script perspective "controversial" enough?
Beermeister
Banned
Nintendo should give up on the console market and become a third party developer for Sony and Microsoft.
GoddyofAus
Banned
You'd better take cover.
I don't like Mario and Zelda games very much, and I have almost zero interest in playing any new ones.
The last Mario game I really enjoyed was Mario 64. The last Zelda I really enjoyed was probably on Gameboy, although I thought aspects of Wind Waker were cool. Sunshine was, to me, complete crap, as were the New SMB and DS Zeldas. Ever since those games I was just done with those franchises. Don't find the characters or worlds charming or cute anymore either.
Just for balance, I also can't stand Final Fantasy anymore. IX was the last one I liked. After that game it started focusing so heavily on characters that I despised instantly on sight, and adopting a sense of style that made me want to vomit, with less and less substance in the gameplay. Square used to mean quality to me, now when I hear a game is by Square (SE) I'm repulsed.
The last Mario game I really enjoyed was Mario 64. The last Zelda I really enjoyed was probably on Gameboy, although I thought aspects of Wind Waker were cool. Sunshine was, to me, complete crap, as were the New SMB and DS Zeldas. Ever since those games I was just done with those franchises. Don't find the characters or worlds charming or cute anymore either.
Just for balance, I also can't stand Final Fantasy anymore. IX was the last one I liked. After that game it started focusing so heavily on characters that I despised instantly on sight, and adopting a sense of style that made me want to vomit, with less and less substance in the gameplay. Square used to mean quality to me, now when I hear a game is by Square (SE) I'm repulsed.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Not from me. Nintendo is behind the times and the WiiU is going to be practically irrelevant when PS4/720 comes out. How are they going to compete regarding 3rd party games? Then again, Nintendo has been pretty much irrelevant post SNES.
vikingvessel
Member
The mass "gaming journalism, lol" dismissive often comes off as trying to fit in or pile on, much like amirite, games are being dumbed down, dudebro/shootbang and mind-numbingly _________ when overused. And using gross or disgusting to describe something as mundane as DLC or an online pass is more about melodrama.