So about that Vita?
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DR2K
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Exclusive as in it has a ton of exclusive content. Why are you responding to me like I wasn't aware the D3 wasn't on PS3, I just said it had all the content + DLC for free?
You shouldn't own a platform for the sake of a game being exclusive, exclusives not made by Nintendo are rarely system sellers. You buy a game because it's fun and you feel that platfom is best suited to your gaming needs.
Beer Monkey
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So any guesses when the North American price cut may drop? It surely will be way before E3, right?
GoldandBlue
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Remote play didn't exactly make the PSP fly off shelves, why would remote play make Vita suddenly sell?
Kojima will vindicate me. Plus Sony gave me one for free so...
DR2K
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3DS is chock full of exclusives and floundering outside of Japan. Obviously doing better than the Vita. The fact is they're both losing sales just by being handheld dedicated gaming platforms.
They're both being hit by being dedicated handhelds, but one of them is selling below expectations (overseas) while the other one is pretty much dying. I think it's actually a good example - people buy 3DS because it has plenty of games that can't be played anywhere else.
And yet Angry Birds is one of the few western third party games to sell 500k on 3DS.
Because "Support for all PS4 games" is a pretty big deal compared to "Support for 50 games".
And yet Nintendo games sell a few million at (near) full price.
GoldandBlue
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As somebody pointed out earlier, they said "most" ps4 titles. Not all PS4 titles. Also, I still don't see how it'll help the Vita sale. I don't think there are many people who would buy what would basically be an expensive controller to play ps4 games.
flyinpiranha
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That doesn't make sense. They talked about the evolving PSN, yet PSN is what we have now ...
They could have said something about it, just to let people know. But at the same time it was a "PS4 event" in all aspects except for it being called one.
I personally won't buy a Vita just to remote play PS4 games. They have to show me more games. But, with the 3DS catching on fire with a lot of games I want (Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Monster Hunter, Luigi's Mansion, etc ... ) I can't really justify buying a Vita unless it had Puzzle Quest 3.
DR2K
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They're both selling below expectations according to company lines, but that doesn't exactly paint the right picture. 3DS is a more consumer friendly machine, cheap and playable right out of the box. Vita doesn't even have that going for it.
ShockingAlberto
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It seems like if they had some sort of tidal wave of game announcements ready to burst, they would have simply done so at Vita Heaven.
I don't understand the argument that Sony had no opportunity to announce Vita games this week.
I don't understand the argument that Sony had no opportunity to announce Vita games this week.
Zoe
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Yoshida said the goal is to have 100% support on day one (minus games that specifically need PS4 hardware features).
Are people really saying that this device has a bright future because of PS4 remote play? Are you serious? Maybe if the Vita was an 80 dollar add-on for the PS4, but it's a 250 dollar handheld (plus more for memory). To have no new games announced at this point in the life cycle is pathetic.
I love my Vita and all, but it's clear Sony doesn't give two shits about the Vita at the moment. They're only caring about the PS4 and are trying to avoid another PS3-esque launch. Hopefully the Vita becomes a machine for niche Atlus/NIS/XSEED games but I'm not even sure about that anymore.
I love my Vita and all, but it's clear Sony doesn't give two shits about the Vita at the moment. They're only caring about the PS4 and are trying to avoid another PS3-esque launch. Hopefully the Vita becomes a machine for niche Atlus/NIS/XSEED games but I'm not even sure about that anymore.
kobashi100
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this..
I am really confused why some people think remote play is a game changer for Vita. Sorry guys but nobody is buying a Vita for remote play.
Well, right, never say 100%, because there could always be something like Guitar Hero, or Singstar, and assorted Move controller based games or whatever that simply don't make sense to remote play.
At least one person in this thread has said they would
lordchompy
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I was really, really looking forward to some Vita news during the conference, but again, Sony proved they don't care any more about the Vita.
"Wait for e3," someone said.
I have to wait four months to find out about games coming out for the holidays in October/November? What about the next six months? We're getting, what, one game per month at best?
We know Killzone is coming, and Uncharted is 90% likely to be in the works, but what else? I don't care about games I can play through remote-play when I'm right next to my console, I care about the games I can play when I'm not tethered to the power socket at home. You know, portable games.
That said, full remote play with PS4 with some better image quality couldn't hurt.
"Wait for e3," someone said.
I have to wait four months to find out about games coming out for the holidays in October/November? What about the next six months? We're getting, what, one game per month at best?
We know Killzone is coming, and Uncharted is 90% likely to be in the works, but what else? I don't care about games I can play through remote-play when I'm right next to my console, I care about the games I can play when I'm not tethered to the power socket at home. You know, portable games.
That said, full remote play with PS4 with some better image quality couldn't hurt.
brain_stew
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Between PS+ and remote play I know that I'm going to get fantastic use out of my Vita over the next 7-8 years without ever having to buy a single game. I can't say the same about any other gaming device I own.
If you're already on board with PS+ and PS4 then the Vita is one of the absolute best deals in gaming right now.
If you're already on board with PS+ and PS4 then the Vita is one of the absolute best deals in gaming right now.
I'm not sure why anyone was expecting anything from either the Vita Heaven OR the PS4 reveal. Vita Heaven was clearly squeezed in at the last minute; we had no warning, and would have been inevitably overshadowed by the PS4 reveal, and the PS4 reveal, well, it's the PS4 reveal.
Sony needs to do a quasi-relaunching of the Vita, and I feel like they've got something in the works. If the Vita was truly dead to Sony, we wouldn't be seeing these features get announced. I don't know when or where it'll happen, but it doesn't seem like Sony's style to let a system whimper into oblivion.
Sony needs to do a quasi-relaunching of the Vita, and I feel like they've got something in the works. If the Vita was truly dead to Sony, we wouldn't be seeing these features get announced. I don't know when or where it'll happen, but it doesn't seem like Sony's style to let a system whimper into oblivion.
Zoe
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dreamer3kx
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Really stinks this device isnt selling, really stinks, could have some great games on it but its slowly dying.
macdaddyjoshua
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Wouldn't surprise me if the majority of Playstation fans are ambivalent about Remote Play, but I can say as a father of 4 with one TV in the house, RP can be a lifesaver and I'm glad they're promoting it. And I love my Vita anyway. A tech whore is me.
famousmortimer
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Remote play on the PSP is the same as remote play on the vita is now. It works with the OS and very few games.
What they were describing last night with the vita being able to remote play *EVERYTHING* on the PS4 is a big deal. It's not OMG we win the handheld market big deal... but it's a very nice feature that anyone who owns a wii U can vouch for. Off tv play is great, especially for older folks with kids, wives, etc.
Yeah, the living room thing was just weird. I mean, I don't think anyone bought a handheld so that it could be tethered to their house.
I don't think they want you to have it tethered to your home, more that there is now going to be more reasons to use it at home such as PS4 remote play and they'll probably let you use it as a PS4 remote/controller and other features. They probably picture the Vita sitting on the coffee table as a sort of media control hub for everything PS4.
And that's what I find odd. The device needs to be able to stand on its own or it isn't going to survive. Combining the two together will only appeal to people who already thought a Vita was worth owning. And for them, yes, it could be cool. But it's just not something that will help the device in any major way.
Cybernetic Empire
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This isn't going to be the same crappy remote play that the PSP had or Vita has currently with the PS3. This is WiiU tablet remote functionality which means any game on the PS4 (with very few restrictions) will play on the Vita with no noticeable input lag. That's f'ing huge. If you don't think that's going to put more Vitas in more peoples' hands, which in turn will get more publishers making games for the Vita, then I don't know what to tell you. I bet there will even be a NA price drop on Vita in conjunction with PS4 Holiday release.
the Vita isn't doomed because Sony neglected it yesterday, it's doomed because it's been neglected every day since launch. quick statements about how dedicated they are to Vita are meaningless. Aside the the small price drop in Japan, there has been no action.
When a company wants to save a product they do like Nintendo did with the 3DS. Price drop, pledge/show more games, ambassador program, pay cuts, candid apologies, etc. Nintendo did these actions early enough to save the 3DS, whereas Sony has passed up 100 chances to help the Vita.
When a company wants to save a product they do like Nintendo did with the 3DS. Price drop, pledge/show more games, ambassador program, pay cuts, candid apologies, etc. Nintendo did these actions early enough to save the 3DS, whereas Sony has passed up 100 chances to help the Vita.
For me the device already stands on its own. I've already got a few hundred hours of Vita games backlog waiting for me, the PS4 connectivity announcement was just sweet gravy.
balladofwindfishes
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so what you're saying is the Vita is best as a 250 dollar peripheral for the PS4?
No matter how you dice this, the Vita is dead and this "feature" won't save it.
Yeah, people are acting like they couldn't have some separate Vita showing after the PS4 reveal.
Oh wait, any Vita news will take away from the PS4 hype. Of fucking course we should wait until E3 for more news on it.
Its dead Jim. Spend your money elsewhere. Theres too much gaming across IOS,3DS, and current/next gen consoles to give that walking ghost anymore of a thought. Its pathetic how Sony shifted its top developers to PS4 while not giving a damn about the Vita. I dunno how some of you guys give actions like this a free pass. I'd be beyond pissed investing all that money into the Vita just to see Sony sit back and let it die but then try and sell you on a PS4.
Where did he say that? You're just disingenuous now.
Investing all that money? It cost $200.
The hyperbole in this thread is reaching new levels.
Plus a memory card, the sftare,and waste of investment in tme and patience with that thing. Its not all about the money, its the trust you put into the company that sold you on the device.
This is how I feel about it. I would keep it for remote play and the odd Vita title for sure.
Yoshida: No Vita price cut for North America
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/21/yoshida-no-vita-price-cut-for-north-america/
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/21/yoshida-no-vita-price-cut-for-north-america/
Far too early to make such comments, yesterday was a ps4 event. They called it playstation event not because they were going to talk about the vita but because they couldn't call it ps4 event given that was exactly what they wanted to reveal and 'surprise'. If there's nothing at E3. Different story. But to make conclusions based solely on yesterday's showing is misguided.
Its like people are not allowed to discuss poor sales of a system without defense forces being deployed.
Lets be real now, a lot of people aren't simply discussing poor sales, they're jacking over their own hyperbolic proclaimations.
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