Because they're good numbers so we thought we'd have a little party. Nice of you to swing by, help yourself to carbonated soft-drinks and corn-based snacks.
PlayStation Vita Sales See Massive Spike in Japan (nearly six times increase)
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Because they're good numbers so we thought we'd have a little party. Nice of you to swing by, help yourself to carbonated soft-drinks and corn-based snacks.
Not to mention that Sony, the company with "tons" of first party offerings in the wings, has not made any major new software announcements for any territory in about six months.
I'm not talking about being pleased with the latest numbers. I mean seemingly getting all upset when people make the opinion of the sales in a negative manner and argueing why they think the console will continue to struggle.
Heard the same thing a year ago!!!
It took less than 5 posts to get a 'Vita is dead'. I think that soured the discussion somewhat. It doesn't help when you get people chucking around generalisations like 'Vita owners catching major feelings' without referring to specific posters
You might well hear it next year too.
That didn't work for industry reshaping Wii, that certainly won't work for slow sales Vita.
It took less than 5 posts to get a 'Vita is dead'. I think that soured the discussion somewhat. It doesn't help when you get people chucking around generalisations like 'Vita owners catching major feelings' without referring to specific posters
Where?
And it'll still be BS
Read further up. Shouldn't be too hard to find.
My point was merely that the device will still be on the market for quite some time.
Beer Monkey
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I just got my Vita. $129 used at Cowboom, because that's a sane amount of money to spend on a handheld. If only used memory cards were available at such a discount.
They really need to cut the price in North America.
Hopefully dev support takes off. If not, a year of Plus with a Vita makes it worth owning in at least the short term. I'll sell it after a year if support tanks.
They really need to cut the price in North America.
Hopefully dev support takes off. If not, a year of Plus with a Vita makes it worth owning in at least the short term. I'll sell it after a year if support tanks.
BronsonLee
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Not comparable. Completely different situations and companies. This is why I don't like comparing Wii U stuff to other things either.
metalslimer
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It took less than 5 posts to get a 'Vita is dead'. I think that soured the discussion somewhat. It doesn't help when you get people chucking around generalisations like 'Vita owners catching major feelings' without referring to specific posters
You might well hear it next year too.
Well I would like an apology for people taking quotes of my completely out of context and trying to use that as some kind of way to discredit my opinion instead of actually arguing against the argument, of course none of those posters have even posted in this thread since then and probably won't post again.
I see one guy making the statement and no one laughing.
Well that's a given, I mean even the psp wasn't discontinued and that sold like shit everywhere but in Japan.
Although they were quick to drop the Go PoS.
This argument however is beyond shitty, it's like these Nintendo fans claiming that Nintendo totally intended for the slow start so that it would get major momentum later or something.
(Actually in Europe I'm fairly certain they sent it to die because their hands were full with making the 3DS not a failure).
You're right, even less people are interested in making Vita games and CEO everywhere don't even have to explain why they're not making Vita versions of their games.
It took less than 5 posts to get a 'Vita is dead'. I think that soured the discussion somewhat. It doesn't help when you get people chucking around generalisations like 'Vita owners catching major feelings' without referring to specific posters
I dont think people need to take it personally. I mean I dont understand when people will say 'poor vita' and then lol @ wii u. The Vita gets no more negative comments than any other console which sells poorly.
BronsonLee
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
You post a lot. People disagree with you. Live and learn. Come on, man.
You're still comparing it. This defeats the whole purpose.
......you wot?!
I'm not following you.
That 'one guy' was the guy I was directly replying to. I was suggesting that perhaps posts like his had contributed to the environment that he had observed in the thread.
It depends what you view the argument as.
'Vita has some unannounced system sellers that will propel it to mainstream relevance and leave the 3DS in its dust' - Bollocks.
'Vita still has some titles on the way that will contribute towards the overall sustainability of the platform and prevent it from dying in the foreseeable future' - perfectly reasonable.
Mang, you bought a Vita in hopes of localized portable Tales games? Namco hasn't released a new portable one over here in years. Best we got was the Abyss port for 3DS but that's not a new game.
Cutting posts out of context is fun.
We can agree that sort of posts are not contributing much though.
I mean "XXXXX is dead anyway" posts.
I'm not convinced on the 2nd part but we'll see, I don't see monopolies as a good thing so I'd be happy to see a turn around.
metalslimer
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I completely fine with people disagreeing with me. That's part of the fun in discussing these things. What I'm not okay with is people not actually discussing the argument and trying to start personal attacks by completely taking posts out of context.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=49267227&postcount=450
People seem to enjoy doing that.
SmokedMeat
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You know what else the mass market is satisfied with? Smartphone gaming. In fact, more and more kids are satisfied with it to. Nintendo's biggest trump card they always had a lock on is slowly shrinking.
For the gamers that like to knock the Vita - a dedicated gaming handheld for it's slow adoption, savor the moment. Because the next round when Sony's gone it's going to be Nintendo struggling more than ever in market that's slowly finding they don't need a dedicated gaming handheld anymore.
metalslimer
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This is probably the last set of traditional handhelds. Sony will probably do something with their successful smartphone line and Nintendo will probably do something completely different.
And according to the Ubisoft insider the one of the big hardware pushers that actually is out there (Liberation) is coming to PSN/XBLA
Father_Brain
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"Overall sustainability of the platform" is a somewhat nebulous phrase, but even this seems a bit optimistic to me.
I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge that my prediction of Sony choosing the Dreamcast option no later than May of next year could be wrong, if, for instance:
-Sony is eking out a small profit on Vita
-Sony isn't eking out a profit, but decides not to reject the sunk cost fallacy and continues to support it
-Retailers continue to order Vita hardware/software in sufficient quantities to justify Sony continuing to manufacture it, despite poor sales
But at this point, there's no software announced, that could conceivably be announced (in the West), or likely to be announced (in Japan) that would make a major, lasting impact on hardware sales. Unless Soul Sacrifice really does become the next MH, or Tearaway becomes the next Mario through word of mouth, but that's not exactly plausible.
Or maybe Nintendo manage to prove people wrong again. When the PSP was launched people said Nintendo were in trouble as they would lost dominance in the handheld market. When the vita launched again heard the same thing. No doubt smartphone gaming in the west is having a major effect on nintendo's business but I dont see how another dedicated handheld has anything to do with that.
BronsonLee
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Yup, because boiling a quote down to the part you want to address=creating a fake quote out of things said in the post.
People= one person. You want an apology, get it from them.
You pop up in Vita threads a ton. The proof of this is me even remembering you in the first place. Your position and demeanor also lend themselves to blowback, as this thread seems to indicate. You keep bringing up the point of an emotional attachment, but you've ran into this enough by now you should be aware of the likely ending.
From my perspective, I agree with you to some extent in terms of the Vita's future, but not to the degree of discontinuation. I don't really trust your analysis when it comes to hardware sales, but that's got nothing to do with any stances you carry. I don't trust anyone on GAF for providing extreme knowledge on something besides maybe people in the New PC thread.
Pokemon.
Hey you posted these words, not me.
The assumption that anyone who "like
It's not so much of a persecution complex than people's observations of the same people commenting on the Vita's prospects in every thread. Everyone and their mother knows that Vita is selling badly. OK. Now, where do we go with the discussion? You can only talk so much about the data until you have people coming in with hit and run comments or comments about how Vita owners should just basically stop caring about their purchase. Maybe they have a vested interest in it or maybe they are just trolling because the data backs up what they say and they can get away with it. Who knows? This shit is just getting ridiculous now.
Stop implying that the only costs associated with dumping the Vita are sunk, that's far from true. If the Vita were to leave the market Sony would lose a lot of consumer and developer confidence.
Who is actually saying this? And how many posts are genuinely trollish here? I can understand why the overwhelming negativity could be frustrating, but this is a sales thread, not a "make Vita owners feel good about themselves" thread.
Consumers who aren't buying it? Developers who aren't supporting it?
people skipped out on the GBA, DS and PSP
At this point they skipped all of them.
There were also people claiming that the PSP was the best handheld ever, they were fucking wrong though.
The load times, OMG the load times!
metalslimer
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Why? Consumers barely know Vita exists and developers will develop for PS4 regardless of what happens to Vita. What major 3rd party is pumping so much money into Vita that they would be devastated if it wasn't there?
such a fucking shame. All 3 systems had libraries that would make anyone jizz in every orifice of their body.
You'd think we would wait a couple more years for both the 3DS and Vita to expand their library before giving either a shoutout for best handheld evarrrrr.
Until the Vita arrived, the PSP was the best handheld ever. Mine is seeing out its retirement on a red velvet pillow.
GhostTrick
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You guess wrong, I had a DS, a DS Lite and a DSi. I even imported Ketsui for a huge chunk of change. That, Chinatown Wars and Nanostray 2 were my favourite games on the system.Wow, I guess you never had a NDS.
Not everyone has the same taste. For me, the Vita library already knocks the DS library into a cocked hat. I bet you find that inconceivable.
michaelius
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Wow, I guess you never had a NDS.
Sure if you prefered Nintendogs and Imagine Babez over GTA , Tactics Ogre or God of War
yeah and the DS had The World Ends With You and Radiant Historia and a good port of CHRONO MOTHERFUCKING TRIGGER.
come on son, no list wars. Not in here.
electroplankton
Banned
People liked more GC line-up over PS2, or Xbox over PS2, or even NeoGeo Pocket over GB, so why not? PSP was a great machine. That's why I'm disappointed about Vita, it doesn't have a fraction of what PSP was having.
And plenty of great games came out on the Vita in the past year.
SmokedMeat
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The assumption that people knocking Vita must be "rabid Nintendo fanboys" is YOUR creation. I've never seen anyone claim this, and I certainly haven't claimed it.
And don't gve me some "persecution complex" bs, it's an observation that you'd have to be blind not to notice.
GhostTrick
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No, in fact, I prefered 999, Ace Attorney, Ghost Trick, Radiant Historia, Chrono Trigger, Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow and Order of Ecclesia over GTA, Tactics Ogre and God of War.
This is why Vita owners should be happy. But some people do go overboard and come off as fanboys.
Exactly, it's a personal thing. You dig whatever you dig and there's no guarantee the next man will feel the same.
It's only just over a year old. That's not to say it will catch up with the PSP library, but it's worth bearing in mind.
metalslimer
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Is this a serious post? Why are people even arguing about this. The PSP and DS were absolutely amazing and the 3DS and Vita won't ever live up to them. We should be reminiscing about the greatest handheld gen we will ever have.
electroplankton
Banned
A one-year-old PSP was already having GTA and MH (in Japan)
To me, it seems clear Vita won't be able to replicate PSP line-up by even a small extent. At least 3DS is having IPs that on DS weren't possible (MH, MGS, RE, etc.), and the same ideas / IPs the DS had; Vita outside few rarities, well, it's not really PSP2.
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