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NFL Week 13 Topic: The NFC mediocrity continues!
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storybook77
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:lol Colin Cowherd called out the Vick haters for not jumping on Grossman's performace just as hard as they would have if it were Vick.
storybook77
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woodchuck said:
Cowherd was cracking jokes about how you at least get a QB Rating of 23 for putting your jersey on right. :lol
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Jonm1010 said:
True. I don't care who they play in the playoffs, that kind of performance won't get them to the "promised land".
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
Lonestar said:
I would have to agree. I wish Kiwanuka had been playing all along, but that's what happened with pro-bowl DEs.
Kiwi's got 35 tackles, 3 sacks, 2 ints, 3 passes def'd and 2 FFs. Not bad for a lineman starting only 4 games and spelling in others.
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:lol since Oct. 15 Rex Grossman has more turnovers than all but one other team in the league (Roffleburger and the Steelers)
bob_arctor
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woodchuck said:
Like I said, throw loopy-armed Pennington on that team and you're looking at a dynasty!
That is even worse considering how much better the Bears are than the Steelers this year. Half the time they don't even need to really throw the ball and they can still come away with a W.Ninja Scooter said:
Steelers are usually forced into throwing early because of a shitty defense, offensive line, running game, receivers, and special teams.
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Lefty said:
Yeah, but you didn't take into account that Bledsoe would have been making the pass while falling down because he wouldn't have been able to side step the pass rush.
This is kind of OT, but I thought you guys would like to look into this LB from Eastern Illinois. He's a flat out stud and I for one can't wait to see him play in the NFL.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=148900
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=148900
levious said:
here you go to all that are intrested about the passer rating
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passer_rating
woodchuck said:
That would suck so much to lose Tommie Harris. We already lost our secondary captain. The last thing we need is to loser our defensive line leader. It gets even worse when realizing the reason he got injured was that the defense was forced to be out there 39 because of our offensive performance. Now it's even hurting the other side of the ball.
As far as Grossman, he's simply been paralyzed by all the pressure and tips on how to fix his play. A billion ideas and fixes being fed to him, tons of pressure, and thoughts running through his head while playing. As he said, slowing him down and not allowing him to just play football. It's not a matter of a bad game, it's more just a meltdown mentally at the position. It can be fixed, but how many games do you wait?
Personally, I think you put Griese in just to give Grossman a break for a week. You see what you have in Griese. Worse case scenario is he plays too good to pull him back out and you have Lovie's biggest fear in the world, controversy. That's not such a bad thing. I fear going one-and-done much more. If Griese doesn't play well, you start Grossman the next game and tell him to go play football. You don't even really have to make a QB decision until the 2nd week of the playoffs. But to handicap yourself into pretending you didn't sign a 5 million dollar backup for 2 years is just stupid. Obviously a well playing Grossman is our best shot to win, but he doesn't become a non-option if you sit him.
UPDATE: Tommie Harris got an MRI and they're saying a knee sprain. Lovie of course wouldn't clue anyone in on what ligament he strained, but said hopefully we get him back soon. Meaning 3-4 weeks in my guess. Ready for the playoffs.
I think Berman has reached the point in his career where, before when he'd go into his schtick for a player's name, now he just kinda mumbles and puts a random emphasis on syllables.
"Josh Brown for the SEEEEEEEEEEAAA-hawks"
By the way, watching Jason Taylor get faked like a rookie with a pump-fake from Garrard on his scramble was even better the 13523423th time I've seen it. Nice highlights from the Jags game with that scramble, the Matt Jones catches and MJD's absolutely stunning destruction of the Miami defense.
"Josh Brown for the SEEEEEEEEEEAAA-hawks"
By the way, watching Jason Taylor get faked like a rookie with a pump-fake from Garrard on his scramble was even better the 13523423th time I've seen it. Nice highlights from the Jags game with that scramble, the Matt Jones catches and MJD's absolutely stunning destruction of the Miami defense.
Lonestar said:haha, wikipedia and that passer rating wiki:
:lol :lol
Only of course that's not even remotely true. Tim Hasselbeck managed to rack up a passer rating of 0.0 (6 of 26 and 4 interceptions) against the Cowboys. Jeff Garcia followed him the next year with 8 of 27 and 3 interceptions). These guys are perfect in their suckitude. Rex Grossman is just a pretender.
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
No you can start that next week after, beat the Panthers...TheDuce22 said:
TheDuce22 said:
No, im sure most of the dumbass home town fans in philly feel the same way.
The only reason i could think of wanting us to lose is to get a better draft pick. Even then id still rather win a game even if its not likely we make the playoffs anyway.
Reid isnt going anywhere, Jim Johnson isnt going anywhere. Oh well.
What we have now is Jeff Garcia. Lets see how is goes (or doesnt go)
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
I been a Saints fan for 25 yrs, i get excited over every win....maynerd said:
ColdBlooded33 said:
Have you seen this team? If our defense by some miracle stepped up last week our offense would have found a way to lose. Thats just the way its been all year. We lost but the offense lookd decent. We lost but the defense played well. We lost but the special teams was great. I am so tired of that crap. Serious ****ing changes need to be made. So much talent is being completly wasted because we have no heart and a coach that is incapable of getting his players up for games.
Edit: I would take the Ray Rhodes era teams over this one any day. At least they played with heart.
i dont give a **** if we have all the talent in the world, or if we're starting Ryan Leaf, Ron Dayne, and Freddie Mitchell on Offense I dont care how we almost win or lose a game. The Day I WANT a team to beat us for any sort of reason is the day im not an eagles fan anymore.
Thats because your a bandwagon fan. When we're winning your all up in this thread trash talking. We were losing you fade away only to come back talking shit about how we suck so ban and all the problems we have ect. ect. ect. You do the same thing in the NBA thread with the Suns.
Thats because your a bandwagon fan. When we're winning your all up in this thread trash talking. We were losing you fade away only to come back talking shit about how we suck so ban and all the problems we have ect. ect. ect. You do the same thing in the NBA thread with the Suns.
Hitokage said:
The fact is Reid has COMPLETELY lost the team. The only way I see the Eagles getting better is if the decision is made to replace him. I mean even with Mcnabb we were average at best, which is a complete joke given how much talent we have.
Ok from now on ill talk trash when the Eagles suck and fade away when we are winning. Oh wait, thats no fun at all.
Also I cant help but notice that all the problems in your tag are related to our coaching issues.
We do know about Griese though. He has been in the league 10 years. He is a career journeyman QB.
Bears can't just stick him into a game, just to see what they have, and then pull him out for Rex the next week. If the Bears switch to Griese they need to do it for the rest of the season. But if Griese goes in the Bears are ****ed anyway, because Grieseball is Konex's guy. So in closing I don't care if Grossman has a -5000000000 QB rating for a game, I would rather have him start than a person already guaranteed to be cursed by Konex!!!
Bears can't just stick him into a game, just to see what they have, and then pull him out for Rex the next week. If the Bears switch to Griese they need to do it for the rest of the season. But if Griese goes in the Bears are ****ed anyway, because Grieseball is Konex's guy. So in closing I don't care if Grossman has a -5000000000 QB rating for a game, I would rather have him start than a person already guaranteed to be cursed by Konex!!!
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