I remember the demo being nearly impossible to control, as I never found a way to remap the controls, and the defaults were awkward. Am I offbase?
GOG News and Updates 2013
- Thread starter Minsc
- Start date
- Status
I remember the demo being nearly impossible to control, as I never found a way to remap the controls, and the defaults were awkward. Am I offbase?
It was a mess in pretty much every conceivable metric. It's a David Cage game though, so that's kind of a given.
Delusibeta
Banned
indigo-cyclops
Member
WOW Omikron is a fucking shocker. I was trying to get this working a few months ago. Hale GOG!
Holy shit. Complete nostalgia overload.
MrTeachwell
Member
Finishing the modding process, loading it up in glorious widescreen resolutions, with all the fixes and additional content, man I love that feeling.
piratepwnsninja
Member
I really wish GoG could get Freelancer. I mean...I posted years ago about System Shock 2 and that happened, so maybe posting about this now will guarantee a release in 3 years.
Haha, yes! Just played through the tutorial and it looks great.
One of the best things about these old games is the years and years of additions, fixes and tweaks. The various communities really get this shit down to a science.
It isn't going to happen unless Microsoft appears on GOG as they own the game. At this point much more likely to see a release on Steam.
GoG opening up the discussion about DLC to their audience via a survey:
http://www.gog.com/news/new_gaming_options_on_gog_we_want_to_hear_from_you
I'm perfectly happy to adopt a "buy it if you want it; don't purchase it if you don't" policy, but I think they do a great job here of outlining *their* viewpoint but also leaving things very much open to feedback. It's an interesting question for their overall business model. I do think the questions might be a *little* bit leading, mind you, and I'm saying that as a supporter!
http://www.gog.com/news/new_gaming_options_on_gog_we_want_to_hear_from_you
I'm perfectly happy to adopt a "buy it if you want it; don't purchase it if you don't" policy, but I think they do a great job here of outlining *their* viewpoint but also leaving things very much open to feedback. It's an interesting question for their overall business model. I do think the questions might be a *little* bit leading, mind you, and I'm saying that as a supporter!
Phonomezer
Banned
Are Capitalism 2 and/or Restaurant Empire any good? They're currently on sale, amongst other titles.
Tizoc
Member
Panzer Dragoon games are now available for voting in gog-
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/panzer_dragoon
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/panzer_dragoon_ii_zwei
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/panzer_dragoon_saga
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/panzer_dragoon
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/panzer_dragoon_ii_zwei
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/panzer_dragoon_saga
Shadow Hog
Member
Short of ROMs in a Saturn emulator, I'm not entirely sure how you'd get Zwei and Saga on the service.
I answered 'No' to every survey question but episodic content for unfinished games (ie one episode at a time), simply because the questions are worded in a zero-sum manner. DLC is not simply something you download and install in a vacuum in a lot of cases, but tied to an account or a client, or key. I don't want gog to start offering content like that, as it goes against the idea of DRM-free.
If it's more standalone content or not tied to a key or an account, then sure why not, but the survey didn't ask that.
I answered yes* and then posted that I think if they were to do DLC, they should wait until it has all been released and then do a "Ultimate" version. Like Fallout: New Vages GOTY edition or whatever would be perfect, Oblivion GOTY and Fallout 3 GOTY the same.
Knowing what I know now about DLC, I just wait until the GOTY or ULTIMATE edition releases. I'm all for DLC and such, but when I have to pay $20 per DLC on top of the asking price of the game and the DLC is a few hours more to the game, I get upset. I miss the old days when an expansion was, well an expansion.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I answered yes to dlc and episodes, no to season passes and games with logins since that's DRM. They'd then have to accept it for single player games as well. Then they'd be a store like any other and no publisher would have an incentive to go DRM free even if they only get the game long after the launch, which could otherwise be an excuse to patch out the DRM for a classic.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I said yes to DLC, no to season passes, yes to episodic games, leaned towards no for season passes for episodic games just because I don't trust devs in the general case to finish on schedule, no to betas, NO!!!!!! to paying for betas, no to games that require keys, no to 3rd party accounts.
Games that require keys would basically make GOG not GOG to me.
I think their emphasis should be on:
1) Good Old Games
...
...
...
2) Some new independent games
3) Some new games from smaller publishers.
The idea of them being a kinder, gentler machine-gun man doesn't appeal to me.
Games that require keys would basically make GOG not GOG to me.
I think their emphasis should be on:
1) Good Old Games
...
...
...
2) Some new independent games
3) Some new games from smaller publishers.
The idea of them being a kinder, gentler machine-gun man doesn't appeal to me.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Right, I said yes to betas. I don't mind them. They have game pre-purchases already iirc, adding beta access for people who get those isn't bad, just replace the beta with the full thing in the library when it's out, or have the beta under the extras list.
Phonomezer
Banned
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
They could filter that quite easily, Steam store just did that recently I think.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
MOTHER OF GOD, VOTING THIS UP.
I'm not talking about aesthetics, though. I don't want to see GOG distracting themselves trying to keep pace with DLC.
They should stick to:
Top priority: old games
Second priority: recent (last ~5 years) games, complete editions if necessary
Third priority: newer indies
Agreed for the most part. I'm really worried about this.
GOG has been a bastion of DRM-free gaming. We all know last year they had to work toward providing newer releases (mostly indies) to keep pace with the changing landscape of digital gaming. But the prospect of GOG having DLC season passes is scary. That is not what GOG represents.
It would be a huge clusterfuck. GOG needs to stick to the priorities you listed. Offer recently released games only if the expansions are complete and everything can be patched and bundled into one release.
Otherwise this is just a gateway to the end of GOG as we know it.
I only said no to games with keys or third party accounts, since I can't consider that DRM free. I don't mind about betas/alphas, season passes or DLC, as long as it's clear what you are buying and they keep the DRM free model. Althoug I also prefer that they focus on old games releases.
Yeah, I was thinking that was a pipe dream... until I remembered they did just that for GameTap for Zwei, and even made progress on Saga. Too bad GameTap more or less fizzled out and became a hollow shell of itself, but if they resurrect this they could get those games up on GOG or at least Steam. Hell, designing these for x86 combined with the next gen consoles being on hardware more powerful than the computers that could run these OK may well mean we finally see Saturn games making a larger comeback on next-gen consoles.
Cyberquake
Member
Don't know which kind of black magic they would need to port PDS to PC. Even using a loader with an emulator, it seems kinda tricky. But ALL those old "SEGAPC" releases from the saturn era would be very welcome on GOG.
And a year later than everyone else?
What do they do if DLC isn't actually planned at the launch of the game, but the company decides to make some after launch? What do they do if the company does plan in advance but simply doesn't tell them? I'm not sure GoG are in a powerful enough position to make demands of publishers beyond their established no-DRM policy.
I don't think it's possible - or indeed fair - to look at this as a solely black-and-white issue.
Joseph Merrick
Member
there are already games with keys for multiplayer authentication stuff
I said yes to pretty much everything on that survey. don't really mind if they do dlc or whatever. as long as every individual piece is drm free it doesn't matter to me, or as long as the core game has no authentication. as long as I can copy installers to a disk, not be online, and install and play things it doesn't matter to me what or how it's available on there.
Then forget about trying to compete with Steam with newer games. Stick to older ones, to indies, and release recent games when they have GOTY packs.
This will not end well for GOG if they try to expand into all these new areas. Guarantee it.
SteveWinwood
Member
I come to gog for old games that aren't making it on steam. The drm free stuff is something I'm more than happy to support, but not the reason I go there. I would be disappointed if they changed their direction on it though.
Basically I voted no for everything.
Basically I voted no for everything.
Same as me. There's no need for them to expand like this. Well, I don't want them to expand like this. There are plenty of old games out there that's not on their service yet. Stick to old game gog, please.
Why?
It's not like we're getting fewer games of the type you're wanting because there's now other types of games coming out instead. The new stuff has come in *in addition* to the older ones. I really don't see an issue with selling those products for the people who want them while still continuing with the older and indie releases.
Also, there's nothing preventing indie titles from having DLC. SpaceChem does. Had GoG had SpaceChem at launch, then what should they have done when Zach added the Corvi DLC?
Exactly. Expansions are fine for some newer games, but drifting toward expansions that are less substantial is a mistake.
AuthenticM
Member
I answered no to all of their questions. As should everyone. GOG is not Steam. The reason I buy their stuff is precisely because of its complete lack of DRM. I buy it once, and I know it'll always be there come what may.
I didn't notice anything in the survey about adding DRM, though?
A Black Falcon
Member
You could argue that CD-keys would be DRM... how bad it is depends on whether the keys are one time use only, or whether you can resell them. In the '90s of course PC games with CD keys could be resold, because there wasn't online checking and key deactivation after it was used and stuff like that, but any MMO with a key system certainly does not work that way. But regardless on what you think of that, having to connect to an outside server certainly would be DRM I'd think.
As for me, I answered yes to some of the questions, and no to others. I will be interested to see the results.
Minsc
Gold Member
A rare Monday release today, Shattered Haven. "A 2D action adventure game where you solve environmental puzzles under duress" with a level editor included. Not quite as exciting sounding as all the Apogee games showing up lately unfortunately.
Shadow Hog
Member
Weird, it's some kind of over-the-head-perspective puzzle game?
A Black Falcon
Member
Skip the original game and go straight to the expansion packs. The base NWN2 has the worst story of any game Obsidian has ever worked on... I have no idea how that thing actually came out of Obsidian, its story is poor, and the ending is one of the stupidest things ever. The first addon, Mark of the Betrayer, is great though, and the second one, though very different, is pretty decent too.
- Status