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[artist]

Why would you pick the PSN+? Just take the vita and sell it.

I wouldnt sell it but boy that's one slanted choice of goodies.

 

[Violater]

Dammit wrong thread.

 

[Dragon]

Where are people seeing real names are optional? Tweeted?

It's optional. And if you import your profile from Facebook or another social networking site, it will put your real name but you can turn that off.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Sony just pulled an Oprah and gave attendees a free Vita or year long PSN subscription. #ps4 #gdc

Oh boy.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN

Still can't beat the free 360 Slim from E3 a few years ago. Microsoft still wins.

 

[kaskade]

I'm actually really liking everything I'm hearing about the ps4. Definitely jumping in day one. I'm really curious to see what ms comes up with. From what we've been hearing I feel like they may be going in a more entertainment direction which worries me a bit. Either way I'm pumped for the next gen.

 

[Dead Prince]

looks like it's over.

 

[artist]

Still can't beat the free 360 Slim from E3 a few years ago. Microsoft still wins.

With Ponchos. #overmydeadbody

 

[gaming_noob]

Optional, the social features are optional. The psnids are still there and are the main identifiers.

Dang...I thought I discovered a new feature.

 

[maltrain]

Why would you pick the PSN+? Just take the vita and sell it.

Why would you sell the best console of the market?

 

[Tomcat]

looks like it's over.

so soon?
was waiting for more info

 

[sunnz]

Nor will it be forced on Kinect. The difference being that if its in the box (either of them) then every dev can do whatever they want and no one is negatively affected by the decision.


The chances are great since trophies won't be tacked onto the PS4. They'll be built from the ground up with the OS. If they're not, Sony needs to hire new coders.

Except people who have to pay extra $$ for something they have no use for...

I know I will be annoyed if I could have saved like over $50 if I could get a nextbox without the kinect. It also seems, unlike with the eye, kinect will still be a big part of the nextbox, like its build WITH kinect as a focus point.

Just my view.

I hope it's optional and if it lowers costs, then I hope it's not bundled. If somethings comes which makes me want the PS eye, then I will buy it when I need it.

 

[surly]

Few people give a shit about motion controls.

I wouldn't say that. The Wii was extremely successful. 1 in 3 360 owners owns a Kinect. Move has sold very well too.

It's already confirmed that the PS4 wont be required to be online, of course it have to be online if you want to connect it to other devices through the internet.

I didn't say it was required. I said it was always connected. In the Durango thread where a leaked MS document mentioned the console being always connected so that it could download patches, updates, games etc. while it was turned off, so it's always up to date when you turn it on, it was met with a resounding "fuck off" from the majority even though nowhere did it say it was mandatory either.

 

[phosphor112]

Nice.

Image doesn't work, what does it say?

 

[ekim]

But surely for the PS4 to do that it would have to be always online, even when it's off. I thought people here hated the idea of that?

same as for durango - optional always online. not must.

 

[Jonboy]

This I chose my name when I was 14 I hate it now .

Omg. This^ Please Sony!

 

[outunderthestars]

I'm actually really liking everything I'm hearing about the ps4. Definitely jumping in day one. I'm really curious to see what ms comes up with. From what we've been hearing I feel like they may be going in a more entertainment direction which worries me a bit. Either way I'm pumped for the next gen.

They did say that the core gamer was the central focus of the machine. Entertainment features are going to have to be there day 1 though. No console launches without entertainment/media features these days.

 

[Audioboxer]

I want the cheapest PS4 RRP possible, if that means no camera, then no camera.

A headset is the only required accessory.

 

[beast786]

But surely for the PS4 to do that it would have to be always online, even when it's off. I thought people here hated the idea of that?

You do realize you can turn on your PS3 right now via vita via internet?

Surely, you also realize that people hate always online if its forced on even to play SP games that has no MP function.

 

[Drago]

PS4 is sounding better and better.

 

[SolidSnakex]

But surely for the PS4 to do that it would have to be always online, even when it's off. I thought people here hated the idea of that?

OPM You talked a lot about service, tech and ideas; how are you going to present PS4 to a more casual market?

Michael Denny So I think two of the other pillars we talked about in-terms of design were simplicity and immediacy. Even taking back a step from here, PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all. So it depends what level you want to use these feature sets at. So with ’simple’ and ’immediacy’ we want it so that everything is one button click away, for example. And ’immediacy’ takes down these barriers that can be frustrating to gamers between the player getting access to the content.

http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/03/20/michael-denny/

People hate always-online in that it's the only option. That's not the case with the PS4. It's optional.

 

[Berg]

I'm actually really liking everything I'm hearing about the ps4. Definitely jumping in day one. I'm really curious to see what ms comes up with. From what we've been hearing I feel like they may be going in a more entertainment direction which worries me a bit. Either way I'm pumped for the next gen.

This is what worries me, everything we've heard has come from a Sony event. I'm waiting to hear features/limitations from the other side of the coin.

 

[IonicSnake]

Image doesn't work, what does it say?

PS4 will charge controllers while it's off.

 

[Dragon]

Image doesn't work, what does it say?

You can charge controllers when the system is 'off'.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Ha! Controller keeps a copy of the user profile, called that shit.

Hopefully they incorporate NFC which allows quick syncing comes to fruition as well.

Why you no hire me Sony! D:

 

[ascii42]

I didn't say it was required. I said it was always connected. In the Durango thread where a leaked MS document mentioned the console being always connected so that it could download patches, updates, games etc. while it was turned off, so it's always up to date, it was met with a resounding "fuck off" from the majority even though nowhere did it say it was mandatory either.

There have been rumors that Durango would require online connectivity.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Nice.

Nice and DAYUM!

 

[Alchemist]

Sony, please let us change our PSN ID's when we want even if its for a nominal fee. I'm hoping this feature is added here.

This please

 

[charsace]

Sony and MS are doing the same exact things. Sony just knows how to sugarcoat it for the hardcore.

 

[outunderthestars]

You do realize you can turn on your PS3 right now via vita via internet?

Surely, you also realize that people hate always online if its forced on even to play SP games that has no MP function.

This needs to be repeated.

 

[ekim]

Play my PS4 at work?! If they can keep the latency down, this could be absolutely massive, especially for Vita sales.

megaton!

 

[shinobi602]

yeah

Thanks

 

[Iacobellis]

This please

PLEASE!

 

[Hoo-doo]

Didn't overthink anything. If it's not included with every PS4, it's a huge mistake. Anything that splits the userbase out of the gate is a big mistake.

As for charging controllers while the PS4 is off, didn't we already know that when they said the PS4 is always on (low-power sleep mode essentially)?

Or.... Maybe the camera add-on won't be the focus of the device and they want to keep entry costs low. A stance I very, very much appreciate.
They are not going to take the (still rumored) Microsoft route.

 

[Dragon]

Sony and MS are doing the same exact things. Sony just knows how to sugarcoat it for the hardcore.

Sony: saying shit
MS: not saying shit

Until MS says something this is not the case at all.

 

[jayu26]

I already have $500 put aside for this with about $170 in credit at Gamestop for games.

I'm diving in head first. PS4 is sounding great.

 

[Rebel Leader]

This please

I would pay aswell

 

[Baconsammy]

same as for durango - optional always online. not must.

Pretty sure Microsoft hasn't said either way if theirs is mandatory or not. My assumption is its not required to play games, because that would just be stupid. But always-on and always-connected are great things. I currently have my PS3 setup to update itself and my games every night. I'm assuming that's going to be a standard feature of the PS4 and that it will be much more robust since the unit will always be on. Sleep mode for consoles. Awesome.

 

[Shahed]

Why would you sell the best console of the market?

That's a bit of a silly question. What if you don't want one or already own a Vita? By selling one you'd get about 3 times the value of a PS+ subscription. It's an easy choice

 

[nib95]

Which console does that?



Defending splitting the consumer base on day 1. Wow.

Defending forcing something the majority of gamers don't want upon them... Wow.

Didn't expect any less from you. Preemptive damage control for when Microsoft forces Kinect 2 on it's user base I'd imagine.

 

[Drago]

So wait, I can use Remote Play on Vita over the internet, anywhere?

Holy shit if that's the case

 

[gofreak]

Shame there was no video, would have liked to have seen the AR demo.

 

[sunnz]

I wonder if its possible for us to be able to pick our OWN control option for games without developers having to allow this feature...

Probably not possible.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Really love the focus on the gamer & developers first and foremost - I hope Microsoft follows suit with the same messaging.

If they're smart they will. It's good marketing since hardcore gamers make up the early adopters. The difference is that people will accept it as reality from Sony but call BS from MS. In the end both companies want to control the living room.

 

[SolsticeZero]

Sony: saying shit
MS: not saying shit

Until MS says something this is not the case at all.

Yep. At this moment, we have no way of knowing one way or the other.

 

[Hung_real]

This please

Wait if PS4 allows us to use our real (social network) name .

Wouldn't it be easier to change our social network name and import it ?

 

[Rainbow In The Dark]

Nice.

Wasn't this already confirmed when they announced the PS4?

 

[Loudninja]

Defending forcing something the majority of gamers don't want upon them... Wow.

Didn't expect any less from you. Preemptive damage control for when Microsoft forces Kinect 2 on yo it's user base I'd imagine.

They not forcing anything I really wish people stop saying this.

Forcing on minatory hook up or minatory to play games.

 

[surly]

Surely, you also realize that people hate always online if its forced on even to play SP games that has no MP function.

Of course. I'm just basing my comments on the responses to the Durango features from that leaked MS document, which are basically the same as the PS4's. Nowhere did it say that an online connection was mandatory to use Durango or play games, yet people still hated the idea of having a console that was always connected to the Internet.

There have been rumors that Durango would require online connectivity.

Yes, rumours. Meanwhile Sony have actually said that they will leave it up to devs to decide if online activations are required for games, so you can't be sure that there won't be PS4 games with forced online either. That was kinda glossed over though, while the Durango rumours seem to have been taken as fact by many.

 

[Frumix]

So wait, I can use Remote Play on Vita over the internet, anywhere?

Holy shit if that's the case

Actual uses of this are incredibly limited due to conditions necessary to perform such task (mostly on recieving end).

 

[nib95]

They not forcing anything I really wish people stop saying this.

Microsoft or Sony?