That's pretty much how I'm reading this situation right now. Until one of the accusers gets off their soapbox and explains the wrong that occurred I can't even think if another possibility. If they're complaining about the girls in the photos I understand even less, they're all dressed tastefully and don't come across as escorts to me.
Fabricated Notch/Mojang party escort allegations; Twitter monsters spring into action
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LAntConroy
Neo Member
So this was all something that came to nothing ?
The Mana Legend
Banned
Just a few people trying to make a big deal about nothing, only to look like raging sexists themselves.
That is perhaps a bit generalizing.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
It was probably a game of telephone--not literally made up but the result of someone mishearing what someone else misinterpreted, etc.
captainnapalm
Member
Yeah, it was tongue-in-cheek.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
Mojang only hires males. Chauvinist pigs confirmed. Someone go start a blog.
I agree. Twitter is the scum of the earth, a platform to grandstand on for people who have no business grandstanding in the first place. And Arthur Gies is the King and ruler of this fucked up domain.
dragonelite
Member
Social media in general when it is used like this if you ask me.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Fight the fights you can win, not the ones you must.
Nah. Persson's Swedish.
I bet Phil Fish was behind all of this.
Nah. Persson's Swedish.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Gies comes off as a white-knighting tool as well.
The problem with giving everyone a voice is that there are some people who just aren't worth listening to.
When does he not though? I mean seriously, guys the biggest one trick pony in the gaming press right now. Insult potential readers and white knight. Rinse, repeat.
That guy continues to prove that he should just be ignored.
PixyJunket
Member
Wow, people so obsessed with pushing their political agendas now that they are just making stories up?
What a sad world we've become.
What a sad world we've become.
So internet feminism has devolved into "anyone better looking/better dressed than me is obviously a whore forced into working by the male dominated video game world"?
Thankfully there are also people with brains who strive for equality who don't get wrapped up in this steaming pile of bullshit. It's embarrassing.
Thankfully there are also people with brains who strive for equality who don't get wrapped up in this steaming pile of bullshit. It's embarrassing.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Notch was very gracious and professional in the way he handled Holly. Holly on the other hand ...
I wouldn't say the story was made up. But it sure as hell wasn't investigated at all before being made public which is ridiculous considering how fast this could have been debunked.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
The Albatross
Member
Arthur Gies' commentary on this is so sad. I love how righteous he gets. People criticized @winnersusedrugs and he made appeals to humanity.. "this is a person behind this account!!" type stuff. Yet, if you reverse to July -> Nov of last year, during election season, he was an absolute dick to anybody who disagreed with his political opinions. Those people, apparently, weren't people.
After that God of War Trophy business I'm getting quite tired of these "journalists" "white knighting" everything, they didnt really tell is how the trophy played out properly and missed out the context and facts of the situation to make their argument. I like Gies generally but recently he goes stamping around like everything he says is fact and ignores or belittles proof that he was wrong.
It's getting annoying that us men are continuing to tell women how they should feel about something as if they can't make up their own minds. I don't think either he nor sessler actually consulted a woman on it before making their noise about it, let alone that a woman came up with the name and that the women on here that i saw post weren't bothered by it at all.
Weltall Zero
Member
Which is why:
Number of Twitter accounts owned by Weltall Zero: 0
Number of Facebook accounts owned by Weltall Zero: 0
Number of Google Plus accounts owned by Weltall Zero: 0
... you know, written like that, it makes it seem like the second part of my nick actually means something.
In any case, and I guess I should have posted about it when this first came up (so I could get "I called it" points), I was extremely skeptical that someone like Notch would be behind something like this. It's like people don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt anymore.
That's because he's a piece of shit.
I don't know why GAF is so weighted on his every tweet.
fastford58
Member
Holy fuck. Haven't you been watching the news for about, oh, the last 10 to 20 years?
That is how it is done now.
Who is is guy anyway? I've been reading his name a lot recently but all I could figure out is he used to write for IGN and is now at Polygon or something. What did I miss?
PixyJunket
Member
Number of NeoGAF accounts owned by Weltall Zero: 1
Don't fool yourself, this isn't that much different, if at all.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
"Whether you feel you did or not" = I believe you are lying but do not have proof to back this up.
The passive aggressive is up to 11 on this entire thing.
The passive aggressive is up to 11 on this entire thing.
He's just the reviews editor at Polygon, that'd be fine if he wasn't such an asshole to anyone who disagrees with him or calls him out on his shit. He talks authoritively about things he doesn't really understand then argues with anyone who questions him. I don't have time for his shit any more, he's single handedly put Polygon on my shitlist.
The guy is beyond scum.
He's proven to be one of the most worthless "journalist" out there and continues to humiliate himself on twitter on a daily basis. I don't think anyone takes him serious and if they do i feel bad for them as well.
PixyJunket
Member
But the internet told me that only FoxNews lies!
^ We are part of the problem, probably more so now.
basically.
I read the last pages, but is there a particular reason we are now calling it a lie? or just that it hasn't been confirmed by anyone... Is there proof it was all fabricated?
(Let me be clear so people don't think I try to keep this myth alive: I think the story is BS whether it happened or not)
(Let me be clear so people don't think I try to keep this myth alive: I think the story is BS whether it happened or not)
Voice of Reason
Banned
What does Sessler, the king of the white knight army, think of this?
Notch said neither him or the event organiser hired women for the event. Green wouldn't drop it there though, she kept insisting he somehow make up for a wrong he didn't have any part of. It's only logical to wonder if anything happened at all since no females were hired for the event.
Portugeezer
Member
/video game sexism
Delusibeta
Banned
Basically, all we've got is a bunch of devs playing Chinese whispers as far as "proof" that it happened.
dark_prinny
Banned
This kind of shit ( among others ). Is why I closed my Twitter acount 2 years ago.
Is just disgusting and sad.
Is just disgusting and sad.
Weltall Zero
Member
I hold NeoGAF to a much higher standard than any of those. Which may or may not be wise.
Seriously now, this may be more telling as well:
Number of posts in Gaming: 995.
Number of posts in Offtopic / Community: 0 (at least, I think so).
And it's exactly for the same reasons, I seem to be the only person on Earth that thinks that laying out your private life for the entire Internet to see is conterproductive.
Also, this is freaking shameful:
https://twitter.com/winnersusedrugs/status/317780971351052288
Notice how she doesn't give a fuck whether or not she completely fucks over the reputations, family relationships, etc. of these girls. People like her do a lot of harm to the image of actual, serious, level-headed feminists. Unfortunately, people like her are the ones that are most visible as well.
And that is ridiculous. So not only did she form part of the "I am offended!" brigade, she also can't admit to making a mistake.
She should hang out with Adria Richards and Anita Sarkeesian.
dragonelite
Member
I think this is a big problem.
This is now case two in two weeks time for very small stuff.
Choose your goddamn battles and choose the right one.
Because picking on this little things make them loose credibility on the bigger issues.