Oh definitely, it's a position I felt stronger about in the past than I do now. But it IS pretty easy to rationalize when it's several hours of a really good RPG versus a few hours of a shooter you HOPE you'll like but really may not be your thing. If it were RE4 quality they'd be equal, but that was a lightning in a bottle moment which we probably won't see again, not without another extreme reinvention anyway.
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Shin Megami Tensei IV (3DS) coming to NA retail/eShop Summer 2013 (July 16)
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buddha0991
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^YHWH PLS
admit it dawg, you totally want in on that glowing blue heart shaft thing.........what am i typing
admit it dawg, you totally want in on that glowing blue heart shaft thing.........what am i typing
TurnipFritters
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He has Time & Eternity in that list. I think he knows what he's in for!
Oh man I didn't notice that. Man, that looks awful.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I'm buying it after bitching for it for months. I need to support a niche localisation with japanese voices.
wait, what?!?TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Really? I thought that. But I don't care if it stinks. I'm just glad it's releasing. I'll buy it just because.
buddha0991
Member
and from what I heard by people who have that game, it really is just awful.
We all have our limits, and neverending SRPG battles with no real difficulty to them make me black out.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
How so? ATLUS is releasing games (or, rather, products) to appeal to every part of the MegaTen "community". No one is being left behind.
It's not like the budget should matter to the fans, after all half of the mainline titles are on a SNES. Not that the majority of the people complaining even touched those games...
TurnipFritters
Member
I mean, by all means go ahead and buy it, it's just that, you know, if it comes down to it, you shouldn't prioritize it. (Though I'd sooner pick it up than Time and Eternity)
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Sounds repetitive and shallow. But at least the characters are charming. I think it's worth playing for that.
If it's anything like the 3 previous games by the same team, it's probably really boring. Battle after battle where you have to do a bunch of finger numbing button inputs just to do the maximum damage in that turn and watch the same animations over and over and over until the enemy dies.
I've yet to finish a single "Persona" title, but I love and have played Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga. If I were to start playing Persona games, which I will at some point, I'm starting with the first two. Atmosphere/mood/setting-wise, they are way more appealing to me. I have nothing against P3 & P4, I've actually played both for a decent amount of time back when they launched on PS2, but they are WAY TOO high school kid problems for my taste, lol! They're cool games and everything and they do a lot of neat things with their battle systems and such, but there's way too much of a focus on teenager drama, dating, and after school activities. No thanks.
I know people are going to take this the wrong way, but I've always thought of Persona as games for people who haven't moved on from high school. A lot of people I've met in life always reflect back to high school and it amazes me. I fucking hated high school. My best memories are from my college years, but you never see people reflect on those times, at least not the people I've met/worked with. I guess that's why the Persona games are so popular, right? From observations (or for more or less shits and giggles) I assigned the SMT games to particular stages of life:
Persona: For people who are still in high school or can't move on from high school.
Digital Devil Saga: For college students or generally people pursuing a higher education.
Mainline SMT/Nocturne: For adults who work full time jobs and have little to look forward to other than survival and paying bills. That's at least where I find myself now, lol!
Philosophical mama-drama aside, SMT: IV's gonna be hot!
I know people are going to take this the wrong way, but I've always thought of Persona as games for people who haven't moved on from high school. A lot of people I've met in life always reflect back to high school and it amazes me. I fucking hated high school. My best memories are from my college years, but you never see people reflect on those times, at least not the people I've met/worked with. I guess that's why the Persona games are so popular, right? From observations (or for more or less shits and giggles) I assigned the SMT games to particular stages of life:
Persona: For people who are still in high school or can't move on from high school.
Digital Devil Saga: For college students or generally people pursuing a higher education.
Mainline SMT/Nocturne: For adults who work full time jobs and have little to look forward to other than survival and paying bills. That's at least where I find myself now, lol!
Philosophical mama-drama aside, SMT: IV's gonna be hot!
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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On consoles, it kind of is. I think nobody said it was dying on handhelds.
TurnipFritters
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Doesn't it have a ridiculously huge number of enemies on each map?
zero shift
Banned
I think the graphics look incredible. It literally is a playable cartoon. Too bad about the art-style and animation.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I've never played any of those games, I heard japan loves them.
That Eternity game is shit, everyone knows that
TurnipFritters
Member
The concept is great, the execution is horrific. It's a really compelling case for why most games that shoot for "playable cartoon" go with cel shaded models rather than actual animation cels.
I may be wrong there, but if it's really boring I have to assume there really isn't much difficulty, at most keep an eye on how to maximize damage then go. If it were a seriously complicated strategy game, well, it'd probably STILL be too damn long and slow, but at least throwing millions of units may've served a real purpose the.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Crap, I thought I read "european eShop". 
I feel like they copied Eva bare-bone story and then filled it with animu shit about rainbows and dancing waifus instead of the 2deep4u stuff Eva has.
More like...
JUSTICE JUSTICE JUSTICE and MERITOCRACY MERITOCRACY MERITOCRACY
It's less of a Megaten story than the first game but it has nothing to do with waifus.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
More like a FMV game... in HD
buddha0991
Member
Shots fired
Preorder links are up: http://www.atlus.com/smt4/purchase.html
Newegg's link isn't active there, but they also have it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16878116058
Newegg's link isn't active there, but they also have it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16878116058
I sure don't.
TurnipFritters
Member
Ronaldo's JUSTICE JUSTICE JUSTICE MY FIST IS JUSTICE is way worse than Yamato's meritocracy bull, but that's mostly because Ronaldo is supposed to be an adult and while I can totally buy a seventeen year old asshole believing they're smarter and better than everyone else.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
OH FUCK YES.
i LOVE YOU ATLUS
i LOVE YOU ATLUS
Now onto Persona 3DS ...
He has Time & Eternity in that list. I think he knows what he's in for!
I'm just listing them all!! Indeed, PxZ and Time & Eternity are the 2 games on my maybe list.
I'd buy every Bad Game twice to bring SMT over here to europe the same time it hits the US.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
It has to be really bad, I'm just happy that the 3ds is getting games aside of Square bieng shit.
How would you then have money to buy the games you want? What does one publisher localizing their game in the west have to do with another anyways?
Who does that? We all get game we hate so we can bitch about it on Gaf later.
It's the edition that works in your NA 3DS and displays English text, which you probably wouldn't be getting at all if it weren't $50. That's pretty premium.
buddha0991
Member
I wish it was less like both and more like Shin Megami Tensei
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Batmanuel and generic white haired dude design are my OTP
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
I could see it cheaper on eShop. But yeah, Atlus knows their fan base. They could charge $80 and fans would buy it.
With an OST and mini artbook!
$50 is a ridiculous price though. Even Square Enix doesn't charge $50 for their handheld games.
TurnipFritters
Member
Wouldn't it be cool if generic white haired dude was a generic white haired dudette with messed up hips? Please look forward to Devil Survivor 2 Break Record, coming soon to a 3DS near you (for a premium).
Doubt it, P4G was 40 on PSN.
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