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[Lonestar]

CBS : They threw another pressure cooker bomb at police last night but it failed to detonate. Pipe bombs and powders found in the apartment now.

yeah, guy on CBS mentions when it hit the ground, the air tight seal on the bomb broke (the lid came off), and because of that, the explosive force of the device was greatly diminished, or even non-functional.

 

[Kwixotik]

This has been one of the most surreal days of my life. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev actually goes to my school (UMass Dartmouth) and was in class on Tuesday apparently. Campus was evacuated, SWAT and Bomb Squad got brought in, the whole school is closed off, one of the history professors at my school, who's an expert in Central Asian terrorism, has been interviewed a lot today. We've got Black Hawk helicopters on campus and they're searching every dorm room for possible explosives. I'm really glad I didn't have class today. It's way too much to take in as it stands now and I didn't even need to head down there today.

Also, the MIT cop who was killed was someone my girlfriend actually knew. Her aunt actually tried to set her up with this guy on a date before she had met me.

I'm guessing he wanted to continue as normal to avoid suspicion until it was obviously him

 

[Downhome]

Kind of shocking and looking into his past, He was like any normal person, Im curious to know what happened to this radical change.

It may go without saying, but I'm sure his brother led him down this path. He convinced him of beliefs of some sort, brother went out of country last year, and returned to plan the plot with his brother's help. The real question in all of this is just where all did his brother go last year for six months, and who else was ultimately involved in building all of this up.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

But dealing with terrorists that way actually means the terrorists won. They now know that you don't even have to do all that much to terrorize many and essentially bring a city to its knees, and waste huge amounts of tax money in the progress. This is one 19 year old kid, not the IRA or RAF.

So it's better to just send 10 cops after him when he could be anywhere and could potentially be strapped and loaded with weapons and explosives?

 

[Joe Lee]

Kind of shocking and looking into his past, He was like any normal person, Im curious to know what happened to this radical change.

From what I've read, his older brother was influenced by this guy:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/4...ohammad-tamerlan-tsarnaev-boston-marathon.htm

 

[syllogism]

It will be interesting to see how they explain the transition from lockdown to business mostly as usual if they don't catch him soon.

 

[Tookay]

Is this whole thing approaching the territory of "what if they don't find him?" Do they just ask Bostonians to resume their normal lives even though the guy is still on the loose?

Do they actually have any clue where he is? Is he even definitely in Watertown? Is it a case of when, not if, or could this drag on and on?

After the brave, intelligent and courageous response to the bombings which led to identified suspects within days, I'm worried that the longer this manhunt continues the more people are going to turn on the authorities. I'm already reading and hearing murmurs about how they let him get away, how they can't find him, wasted tax dollars, etc.

Well, I still assume that he doesn't have a vehicle.

And probably not a lot of cash on him.

Or a place to stay.

So I doubt he could have gotten too far.

 

[heyf00L]

But dealing with terrorists that way actually means the terrorists won. They now know that you don't even have to do all that much to terrorize many and essentially bring a city to its knees, and waste huge amounts of tax money in the process. This is one 19 year old kid, not the IRA or RAF.

No it doesn't. This sends a clear message: you do terrorism, we'll stop and nothing to bring you to justice. That's how it should be.

 

[maquiladora]

What the fuck?

Did he think he could just murder people and return to his normal life?

There is a report that they were due to fly to Russia in a few days. Maybe they were planning on not attracting attention until then? Plans probably changed when their images were made public....

 

[kingocfs]

CBS : They threw another pressure cooker bomb at police last night but it failed to detonate. Pipe bombs and powders found in the apartment now.

Guy on CBS said the top of the cooker shot off like a missile and lodged itself into a police car. Crazy

 

[brokenbeans]

Must be close to have searched the whole area now.

 

[TimeEffect]

I'm not shocked that the father and aunt are in denial or are acting the way they are.

It's not easy hearing your sons/nephew are suspects to bombing attacks.

Especially since they seem to be swell, educated guys.

I just want to know what the fuck happened. If this kid dies, we'll probably never know.

 

[codhand]

18 hour shifts yikes

 

[smr00]

I'm not shocked that the father and aunt are in denial or are acting the way they are.

It's not easy hearing your sons/nephew are suspects to bombing attacks.

Are they in denial of the cold blooded murder and shootout? Or just the marathon bombing.

The marathon bombing i would be in denial over if it was my son, i would demand damning evidence but i couldn't deny the events over the past 15+ hours.

 

[The Albatross]

Not if you had hydroponic weed plants growing in the closet.

Possession isn't illegal here.

I mean, if you've got an enormous pot factory then that's one thing. But frankly, if a swat guy came to my house looking for this terrorist, I'd tell him... "y'know, I don't have any terrorists here... but I do have a bag of weed in my closet."

 

[Ashodin]

Especially since they seem to be swell, educated guys.

I just want to know what the fuck happened. If this kid dies, we'll probably never know.

Yep we'll only get sketchy information at best when they find the guy's memoirs and papers and such. Nothing better than picking the human brain for answers though.

 

[dc89]

So many resources.

 

[AuthenticM]

The father on CNN, dude is in total denial.

Link ? Can't find it.

 

[tajd]

Kind of shocking and looking into his past, He was like any normal person, Im curious to know what happened to this radical change.

the older brother was the made one and courupted him

 

[enzo_gt]

I really wonder if Suspect 1 really did take the fall for Suspect 2 and then kinda back stabbed him with the car being backed up.

 

[GAMERG0D]

Just saw the video of the 'badass uncle'. He really is badass.

 

[raphier]

But dealing with terrorists that way actually means the terrorists won. They now know that you don't even have to do all that much to terrorize many and essentially bring a city to its knees, and waste huge amounts of tax money in the process. This is one 19 year old kid, not the IRA or RAF.

Yeah, let's just ignore all these body limbs falling of the sky to show them terrorists that people are winners. Do you even understand what you are saying?

 

[KHarvey16]

I'm completely speculating here, but I'm thinking the older brother played a huge part in it.

If what we're hearing about these two brothers is true it does sound like the older brother was heavily influencing the younger.

 

[Ace Harding]

This has been one of the most surreal days of my life. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev actually goes to my school (UMass Dartmouth) and was in class on Tuesday apparently. Campus was evacuated, SWAT and Bomb Squad got brought in, the whole school is closed off, one of the history professors at my school, who's an expert in Central Asian terrorism, has been interviewed a lot today. We've got Black Hawk helicopters on campus and they're searching every dorm room for possible explosives. I'm really glad I didn't have class today. It's way too much to take in as it stands now and I didn't even need to head down there today.

Also, the MIT cop who was killed was someone my girlfriend actually knew. Her aunt actually tried to set her up with this guy on a date before she had met me.

Damn dude.

 

[jred2k]

I'm gone for 8 hours and they still haven't caught that guy? Fucking hell. Anyone got a timeline of events?

http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1coqwo/live_boston_update_thread_part_5/

 

[mugurumakensei]

Damn, I sent to UTD as well.

Here's the article from my former roommate's conviction. http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...nt-found-guilty-in-Taliban-scheme-1632563.php

 

[gcubed]

But dealing with terrorists that way actually means the terrorists won. They now know that you don't even have to do all that much to terrorize many and essentially bring a city to its knees, and waste huge amounts of tax money in the process. This is one 19 year old kid, not the IRA or RAF.

not really. A terrorist attack doesn't do this. A terrorist attack where you then show yourself, get in a shoot out with the police while throwing bombs at them gets you this attention. Its not relatable


This guys isnt going to move until nightfall anyway, i'm assuming thats why they are trying their hardest to find him now, he's probably holed up somewhere waiting for the cover of darkness to get out

 

[strafer]

So many resources.

I have a sudden urge to play some Battlefield 3.

 

[mnz]

He also said "thank Allah" they weren't hurt by the bombs.

Well yeah, he is a muslim. How often do you hear "thank god" in the US?

 

[Tookay]

But dealing with terrorists that way actually means the terrorists won. They now know that you don't even have to do all that much to terrorize many and essentially bring a city to its knees, and waste huge amounts of tax money in the process. This is one 19 year old kid, not the IRA or RAF.

This is total poetic nonsense, especially when you consider the alternative of being lax about someone who's killed several people, harmed hundreds, carries guns, throws explosives, and could potentially kill again.

You bring down justice on these people and make it clear that they have no escape. To do anything less than that allows them to "win."

 

[Meelow]

Especially since they seem to be swell, educated guys.

I just want to know what the fuck happened. If this kid dies, we'll probably never know.

Agreed, especially how they were called "angles" and "good kids".

It's really weird how they just changed their lifes and did this, especially since suspect 2 got a scholarship to collage, etc.

I really want to know why they did what they did.

Are they in denial of the cold blooded murder and shootout? Or just the marathon bombing.

The marathon bombing i would be in denial over if it was my son, i would demand damning evidence but i couldn't deny the events over the past 15+ hours.

I think it could be both, more on the Marathon bombing.

 

[Forsete]

From what I've read, his older brother was influenced by this guy:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/4...ohammad-tamerlan-tsarnaev-boston-marathon.htm

Obama to bring out the shiny drones?

 

[vas_a_morir]

BTW, I am now very aware of the Chechen struggle for independence from Russia, which I haven't thought about in years. Hmm... I wonder if this was their goal? (I have 0 reason to believe they were pro Chechen activists, I'm just thinking out-loud.)

 

[Lasthope106]

The guy must be tired as hell. You can't keep up going for this long without sleep, water, and food. If he was as deranged as his brother he would want to go out taking as many people as possible. He hasn't done that yet. There still some hope he might just turn himself in.

 

[GillianSeed79]

Maybe he has people helping him? Most chases you see on TV are from drunken or drugged out idiots. This guy calculated and planned a terrorist attack.

And believe it or not police lose people. Not to mention the escape was at night with gun fire and what not going off.. He just happened to slip through the cracks and that shit happens.

Yeah. It's not like the movies. People escape sometimes. Hell, police will sometimes break off a vehicle pursuit if they think it's getting too dangerous and is going to endanger motorists. Cops would be a pretty boring show if they showed you the cases where the suspect got away.

Plus, I'm pretty sure cops aren't used to having explosives hurled at them in the U.S.

 

[The Lamonster]

I have a sudden urge to play some Battlefield 3.

I said the same thing about Call of Duty earlier and was attacked for it.

Enjoy :/

 

[Dai101]

"y'know, I don't have any terrorists here... but I do have a bag of weed in my closet."

He maybe would ask you for a fat one because it's being a hard day..

 

[MThanded]

They seem to have no idea where the guy is. This is disheartening.

 

[MiamiWesker]

There were no helicopter because of the weather. But it really doesn't matter. They didn't get him last night. They need to now. You don't just let a terrorist suspect run around that already blew up a public event with access to even more bombs and a desire to use them.

I am not opposed to the city search just wondering how it can even get to this. The no helicopter thing I did not know, that makes sense

 

[Orochinagis]

It may go without saying, but I'm sure his brother led him down this path. He convinced him of beliefs of some sort, brother went out of country last year, and returned to plan the plot with his brother's help. The real question in all of this is just where all did his brother go last year for six months, and who else was ultimately involved in building all of this up.

From what I've read, his older brother was influenced by this guy:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/4...ohammad-tamerlan-tsarnaev-boston-marathon.htm

Poor kid then, hope they capture him alive and confront his acts.

 

[CrankyJay]

Agreed, especially how they were called "angles" and "good kids".

It's really weird how they just changed their lifes and did this, especially since suspect 2 got a scholarship to collage, etc.

I really want to know why they did what thjey did.

Are you being obtuse? =)

 

[jim-jam bongs]

On the topic of effectively shutting the city down to catch a single person, the thing I wonder most of all is how long are the authorities prepared to do this? If he doesn't get caught today or tonight, will Boston be on lockdown until they do?

 

[Sanjuro]

They seem to have no idea where the guy is. This is disheartening.

Yup.

 

[kingocfs]

Link ? Can't find it.

I was watching it on TV, sorry.

 

[jonezer4]

But dealing with terrorists that way actually means the terrorists won. They now know that you don't even have to do all that much to terrorize many and essentially bring a city to its knees, and waste huge amounts of tax money in the process. This is one 19 year old kid, not the IRA or RAF.

I'd argue that letting a guy that was responsible for multiple deaths and hundreds of injuries escape because you didn't throw everything you had at him would qualify more as "the terrorists (winning)".

If you can kill/injure/maim an incredible amount of people and not face relentless pursuit of justice because the government doesn't want to inconvenience people or spend money... I'd argue that's letting the terrorists win.

It's not "wasting" tax money to catch a guy that killed and injured hundreds and could very well do it again. The government does FAR more wasteful things on a daily basis.

 

[RoKKeR]

The chick on CNN right now is so fucking obnoxious. The one from the .gif earlier today.

 

[smr00]

Agreed, especially how they were called "angles" and "good kids".

It's really weird how they just changed their lifes and did this, especially since suspect 2 got a scholarship to collage, etc.

I really want to know why they did what thjey did.

Do you think we will ever get a logical explanation even if he's caught live? He's either an extremist or a fucking psychopath.

Even if he is caught alive i highly doubt we will make any sense out of it.

 

[Ace Harding]

What do they do if they just can't find him? What if 2-3 days go by? A week? Two weeks? He's just America's Most Wanted and people go on with their lives?

I wonder how long they keep people on lockdown like this.

 

[Hilti92]

This whole situation seems odd to me. I don't quite understand why two kids who people who know them say how good they are and how normal they are, one of their twitter seems so normal to the days leading up, one of them had a good future in boxing, how can a 19 year old out run police and avoid being caught for this long? I am not agreeing with anyone saying the government did this or anything as I don't believe they would have but the situation seems completely fucked.

 

[dc89]

I have a sudden urge to play some Battlefield 3.

The picture which shows all the officers in black, the guy at the front looks like my GF's brother in law. It's uncanny!!!