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Boston: One dead, one captured, city re-opened

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Well, that's interesting.

Wait, isn't this image from the 7-11 robbery though

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How do you think finding one person in a huge area works, exactly? If he's hiding in a shed somewhere, what do they do beyond what they're doing?

But what about before when we had hundreds of police, cameras everywhere, helicopters I assume all chasing the guy last night. WTF happened? How many times have you ever seen a major police chase end with "ughhhhh we lost him, lets close the city."

Everyone in the country knows what he looks like, he literally can't do anything, I don't get it.
 
Cute how so many people in this thread can't see the difference between a random killer with an unknown arsenal who has killed with both bullets personally and with bombs impersonally, and some dude who shot his wife or a gang member killing a rival. I hope you guys are just trolling.

It's like some people are incapable of making rational distinctions.
 
I agree, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with the cops going all out to catch this guy. Shit, if I lived in that area, knowing that my peace of mind and safety was at stake, I'd let them stroll through my house as many times as they needed.

Not if you had hydroponic weed plants growing in the closet.
 
One thing about all this attention and response is that we'll see even more escalation in wannabe copycats.

Its worth stopping to take note afterwards to rein in any excess.

That may well be true, but I take offense to a left-wing Israeli newspaper tut-tuting us from the sidelines.
 
This has been one of the most surreal days of my life. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev actually goes to my school (UMass Dartmouth) and was in class on Tuesday apparently. Campus was evacuated, SWAT and Bomb Squad got brought in, the whole school is closed off, one of the history professors at my school, who's an expert in Central Asian terrorism, has been interviewed a lot today. We've got Black Hawk helicopters on campus and they're searching every dorm room for possible explosives. I'm really glad I didn't have class today. It's way too much to take in as it stands now and I didn't even need to head down there today.

Also, the MIT cop who was killed was someone my girlfriend actually knew. Her aunt actually tried to set her up with this guy on a date before she had met me.
 
Hm. Makes it weird that they let the hostage go.

Well the cop was probably seen from their minds as an enemy combatant, while the unarmed hostage was seen as a regular civilian. It's easier to kill faceless civilians in a bombing than it is to directly fill a hostage with lead face to face maybe?
 
OK I'll bite: Why did the FBI come to your home?

My roommate at the time went on a hunting trip with three others guys. Two were discussing going to Pakistan and training to be part of Al Qaeda. One of the four (not my roommate and not the two would be terrorists ) wore a wire. My roommate was found guilty of weapon possession while not a legal citizen. The two would be terrorists went to jail for their conspiracy. This happened Dec 06. It was a big story in Dallas ( I was a student of UTD and lived on campus so obviously my roommate was too ) and Houston (the two would be terrorists were leaders of the Houston CAIR branch at the time.
 
But what about before when we had hundreds of police, cameras everywhere, helicopters I assume all chasing the guy last night. WTF happened? How many times have you ever seen a major police chase end with "ughhhhh we lost him, lets close the city."

Everyone in the country knows what he looks like, he literally can't do anything, I don't get it.
Maybe he has people helping him? Most chases you see on TV are from drunken or drugged out idiots. This guy calculated and planned a terrorist attack.

And believe it or not police lose people. Not to mention the escape was at night with gun fire and what not going off.. He just happened to slip through the cracks and that shit happens.
 
But what about before when we had hundreds of police, cameras everywhere, helicopters I assume all chasing the guy last night. WTF happened? How many times have you ever seen a major police chase end with "ughhhhh we lost him, lets close the city."

Everyone in the country knows what he looks like, he literally can't do anything, I don't get it.

There were no helicopter because of the weather. But it really doesn't matter. They didn't get him last night. They need to now. You don't just let a terrorist suspect run around that already blew up a public event with access to even more bombs and a desire to use them.
 
This has been one of the most surreal days of my life. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev actually goes to my school (UMass Dartmouth) and was in class on Tuesday apparently. Campus was evacuated, SWAT and Bomb Squad got brought in, the whole school is closed off, one of the history professors at my school, who's an expert in Central Asian terrorism, has been interviewed a lot today. We've got Black Hawk helicopters on campus and they're searching every dorm room for possible explosives. I'm really glad I didn't have class today. It's way too much to take in as it stands now and I didn't even need to head down there today.

What the fuck?

Did he think he could just murder people and return to his normal life?
 
This has been one of the most surreal days of my life. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev actually goes to my school (UMass Dartmouth) and was in class on Tuesday apparently. Campus was evacuated, SWAT and Bomb Squad got brought in, the whole school is closed off, one of the history professors at my school, who's an expert in Central Asian terrorism, has been interviewed a lot today. We've got Black Hawk helicopters on campus and they're searching every dorm room for possible explosives. I'm really glad I didn't have class today. It's way too much to take in as it stands now and I didn't even need to head down there today.

Also, the MIT cop who was killed was someone my girlfriend actually knew. Her aunt actually tried to set her up with this guy on a date before she had met me.

Damn.
 
My roommate at the time went on a hunting trip with three others guys. Two were discussing going to Pakistan and training to be part of Al Qaeda. One of the four (not my roommate and not the two would be terrorists ) wore a wire. My roommate was found guilty of weapon possession while not a legal citizen. The two would be terrorists went to jail for their conspiracy. This happened Dec 06. It was a big story in Dallas ( I was a student of UTD and lived on campus so obviously my roommate was too ) and Houston (the two would be terrorists were leaders of the Houston CAIR branch at the time.

Damn, I sent to UTD as well.
 
Is this whole thing approaching the territory of "what if they don't find him?" Do they just ask Bostonians to resume their normal lives even though the guy is still on the loose?

Do they actually have any clue where he is? Is he even definitely in Watertown? Is it a case of when, not if, or could this drag on and on?

After the brave, intelligent and courageous response to the bombings which led to identified suspects within days, I'm worried that the longer this manhunt continues the more people are going to turn on the authorities. I'm already reading and hearing murmurs about how they let him get away, how they can't find him, wasted tax dollars, etc.
 
We do not deal with terrorism every day, though.
But dealing with terrorists that way actually means the terrorists won. They now know that you don't even have to do all that much to terrorize many and essentially bring a city to its knees, and waste huge amounts of tax money in the process. This is one 19 year old kid, not the IRA or RAF.
 
Fox news just reported that the suspects didn't actually rob the 7-11, only purchased gas and got picked up on the security camera.
 
For some people of a certain political bent, that scenario still isn't justification enough, the whole system being wrong/evil and all, y'know.

Those sorts of people you could probably never convince them, short of a terrorist aiming a gun at their head or something of that magnitude.

I hate politicians and the media, but this isn't about government tyrrany or media narrative, the actions of the FBI and PD. This is pure public safety, do whatever it takes to limit casualties.
 
One thing about all this attention and response is that we'll see even more escalation in wannabe copycats. Its worth stopping to take note afterwards to rein in any excess.

Has the theory of "copycats" ever been proven? We hear the word deployed a lot, but I've never seen any studies or anything like that establishing that people copy each other. I don't really buy it, but I'd be interested if there were any studies that established this phenomenon. Stuff like this is hard to pull off, and most people are hugely incompetent.
 
I'm not shocked that the father and aunt are in denial or are acting the way they are.

It's not easy hearing your sons/nephew are suspects to bombing attacks.
 
"They are carrots! Medicinal carrots, and I'm holding them for a friend!"

A+ reference.

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I'm completely speculating here, but I'm thinking the older brother played a huge part in it.

My dad and I have been watching the news and talking about this, and we both agree here. Total speculation, but it seems like the younger brother was a lot more Americanized and the older brother probably got into his head and talked him into this.
 
Seems like things are slowing down. I wonder if activity will pick up at night. If he's hiding out he'll probably plan on moving at night.
 
But what about before when we had hundreds of police, cameras everywhere, helicopters I assume all chasing the guy last night. WTF happened? How many times have you ever seen a major police chase end with "ughhhhh we lost him, lets close the city."

Everyone in the country knows what he looks like, he literally can't do anything, I don't get it.

We don't have a clue how he got away. He was shooting and throwing bombs as he sent over a dozen people to the hospital. Now he's hiding from the police. It would be great to tap into the all seeing eye of imaginary technology but the system is down today.
 
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