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[phosphor112]

Their air being grounded last night really crippled this encounter.

The government sprinkled chem trails in the air so it made it windy, thus grounding the "search."

Har har har

 

[BronsonLee]

Yes. Exactly.

Unibomber. Atlanta Olympics bomber. Hell, I don't remember a manhunt like this after Oklahoma City.

How long was the Unibomber at large again?

That's being super reductive, but come on. They know where he is. Put him down.

Also, good to know even Off Topic GAF consists of people who could do someone's job way better than they are for a fraction of the price

 

[Lasthope106]

Just to give some of the non-Americans a sense of scale, the greater Boston metropolitan area is about 12,000 kilometers squared. It contains about 4.5 million people.

And every American knows what he looks like. Millions who can identify him and report the authorities.

 

[Talents]

Do you guys think the night time is an advantage or disadvantage for the cops?

 

[brokenbeans]

Time for sleep now work in the morning.

I hope we get a conclusion soon.

Night all.

 

[Dega]

If he's taken in alive that store will be forced to go out of business.

Jack Ruby's ghost will get him.

 

[Trigger]

As the father of a newborn child, I can't imagine how the father must be feeling right now. To bring up 2 seemingly-well adjusted kids and then suddenly have to deal with this horror. Like Uncle mentioned, the kids have indeed brought shame to the family, and the Chechen people. To have that bearing down on you...

Very awful situation. I'm not sure how I'd react in this kind of mess.

 

[ZanzibarBreeze]

Been posted already, but it's still ridiculous:

The Boston Globe ‏@BostonGlobe
BREAKING NEWS: With his brother shot by police, Dzhokhor A. Tsarnaev drove over him, two law enforcement officials said.

Hey dawg... when you woke up Monday morning, were you feeling alright?

 

[ElFly]

I know this is more worthless arm-chair speculation and naval-gazing, but I've been thinking about what the average person would do to avoid being apprehended by such a huge force for so long.

I would be caught immediately, I can't think of anywhere I would try to go to hide-out that wouldn't be the first place to look (my house) or some random place that wouldn't offer any long-term shelter.

I doubt this suspect has planned his escape to the level that it might appear.
I think what's more likely is the police are taking every precaution necessary to ensure no one else is hurt.

If they really had this planned well they could have been out of the country by now. Then again, America could still try to extradite them or chase them overseas, but that could have taken way more time.

 

[gcubed]

Yeah all I'm saying is you setup check points, encourage the people in the neighborhood to leave if they can, search their vehicles on the way out.

With the people gone, you can infrared scan the neighborhood and find him fast.

so you're method is to evacuate the neighborhood?

 

[JaseMath]

Why were they buying gas? Unless they were driving a stolen car, every report I've heard has alluded to them not having any real transportation.

 

[Devolution]

And what about the family of the missing person, having to deal with tens, hundreds of people pointing fingers at them saying "YOURE RELATED TO A TERRORIST" "I HOPE YOUR SON DIES" and so forth?

Yeah that definitely happened last night. They even had stupid gifs going back and forth between his photos and suspect 2. It was so stupid.

 

[MThanded]

What I don't understand is how law enforcement were in a foot pursuit with the suspect (meaning they were extremely close to him) but then lost him and decided to basically give up and wait until daylight before continuing the search.

Why not just bring in a bunch of K9 units, SWAT with nightvision, and helicopters with search lights to that area and try to find him immediately while they were still hot on his trail? They had a huge advantage at that time.

They basically gave him a headstart to escape and/or plan something new and they seemingly have no idea where he is now - a house, car, subway... And if he's holed up in a house now it's most likely a hostage situation which seems much more dangerous than just trying to catch him while he was running through the streets.

Helicopters were the big key and they couldn't use them last night because the air was too soupy. Also because of this guy's penchant for explosives they didn't want to rush him in case he blew himself up.

 

[PopeReal]

What I don't understand is how law enforcement were in a foot pursuit with the suspect (meaning they were extremely close to him) but then lost him and decided to basically give up and wait until daylight before continuing the search.

Why not just bring in a bunch of K9 units, SWAT with nightvision, and helicopters with search lights to that area and try to find him immediately while they were still hot on his trail? They had a huge advantage at that time.

They basically gave him a headstart to escape and/or plan something new and they seemingly have no idea where he is now - a house, car, subway... And if he's holed up in a house now it's most likely a hostage situation which seems much more dangerous than just trying to catch him while he was running through the streets.

No foot pursuit was confirmed. He drove away while his brother engaged officers with gunfire. After that he was not spotted, there was some confusion on the scanner at times but they never got into any foot pursuit with him. (I listened to the scanner all night)

EDIT: And yeah, the helicopters were useless last night due to poor visibility. He got a lucky break there.

 

[cicero]

Lots of ignorant juniors in this thread. I think I'll post this link with a photo gallery to just remind you why this has happened.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/16/us/boston-marathon-explosions

I think you included me in a response that was aimed at others. Reread my comments please. I was responding to someone else that I implied was thinking based on that kind of reasoning, not promoting it myself.

 

[Downhome]

It certainly feels like the media want you to feel for him, everything and everyone who they have contacted about him has shown him to be affable, untroubled and normal. In comparison there is hardly a scent on the older brother. I agree as a 19 year old he is culpable for his actions and should face a fair trial and a fair conviction, if he is guilty. I do however, if what we are led to believe is true, think that most likely an outside influence got to him and turned him and that at one point he was a normal human being.

Well yeah, even the worst of the worst were at one point a normal human being. That goes for pretty much everyone. It all depends on how soon "they" get to you and how it is done.

And yes, the guy seemed to have had money. That also makes me that much more confused as to why they would rob anyone last night.

 

[ZenaxPure]

Alright guys, last thing I remember before I fell asleep was the woman reporting someone had broken the lock on her garage door and it was open and we had maybe found out who the suspects were. Anyone want to catch me up since then, I just woke up and wanted to just read through the thread but it had 100 more pages and it's moving really fast.

 

[maquiladora]

Wait... I'm confused. So the 7/11 incident wasn't related to them?! What about the MIT incident? Why was there a shootout last night then?

The bought stuff at a 7/11. The robbery story was false. Shooting the MIT cop seems to be the first thing they did that started the chain of events.

 

[itsgreen]

So either you go all out and treat acts of terror as important, which you say terrorists want, or you treat their acts of terror as not being as important, which wouldn't be seen by terrorists as a direct sign of weakness, why exactly? How does that not fit their aims to commit acts of terror, and then have a weak response to those acts, allowing them to escape or commit further acts because there wasn't a widespread response?

Your standard for official responses to terrorism is pathetic, weak, and would embolden those seeking to use it to further their agendas because it is so obviously a sign of weakness and uncertainty.

Was just thinking about this today: how many days per person have been 'wasted'. Like a million days combined for Boston citizens and stuff? How many lifetimes is that?

 

[Ashodin]

Helicopters were the big key and they couldn't use them last night because the air was too soupy. Also because of this guy's penchant for explosives they didn't want to rush him in case he blew himself up.

Yep. The explosives has slowed the search down considerably than it normally would take, the cops want to avoid any loss of life.

 

[BloodMoney]

Yeah all I'm saying is you setup check points, encourage the people in the neighborhood to leave if they can, search their vehicles on the way out.

With the people gone, you can infrared scan the neighborhood and find him fast.

why do that when you can just search houses much more quickly (like they've been doing). Your scenario involves adding additional steps to the process which is not efficient.

 

[OrangeYouGlad]

Do you guys think the night time is an advantage or disadvantage for the cops?

I think it's always a disadvantage.

 

[ZZMitch]

Why were they buying gas? Unless they were driving a stolen car, every report I've heard has alluded to them not having any real transportation.

They did steal a car.

 

[astroturfing]

Just to give some of the non-Americans a sense of scale, the greater Boston metropolitan area is about 12,000 kilometers squared. It contains about 4.5 million people.

damn, that's basically my entire home country (Finland with 5 mil people).

crazy situation. totally crazy. ONE teenager can cause this total shutdown of a society of almost 5 million people!?

 

[LyleLanley]

Why were they buying gas? Unless they were driving a stolen car, every report I've heard has alluded to them not having any real transportation.

Didn't they have a stolen mercedes?

 

[Winterfang]

Can someone explain me the Twitter picture? Why did they though the suspects where from the Czhect Republic? It seems to me just pure confusion rather than stupidity.

 

[kirblar]

Yeah, CBS4 just said this as well.

There were reports last night that a separate incident was mixed in with the bomber chase, but it wasn't clear which parts were which.

 

[dc89]

Do you guys think the night time is an advantage or disadvantage for the cops?

I'm gonna say disadvantage on the whole. But the suspect may think he's safe under the cover of darkness and could come out of hiding etc.

But yeah, I definitely think it would be harder co-ordinating this kinda of operation in the dark.

 

[RoKKeR]

I still think it's incredible that the entire city of Boston is on lockdown.

 

[ciridesu]

Lots of ignorant juniors in this thread. I think I'll post this link with a photo gallery to just remind you why this has happened.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/16/us/boston-marathon-explosions

Sorry Sir, I must have forgotten my limits.

Honestly, who the fuck are you to quote dozens of posts in an attempt to post a derogatory comment towards juniors?

We know what has happened. We know who is behind it. We know what risks there may lie. But, perhaps, some of us just hold the right to be free from intrusion in your own house just that important that it makes us wonder, if it is truly worth it. It's a matter of principle, and there is no right or wrong. So don't tell me not to question certain things.

Back to the topic, your comment just annoyed me.

 

[tci]

Do you guys think the night time is an advantage or disadvantage for the cops?

I'm guessing the coppers are using IR cameras, so advantage too a degree.

 

[Tookay]

What I don't understand is how law enforcement were in a foot pursuit with the suspect (meaning they were extremely close to him) but then lost him and decided to basically give up and wait until daylight before continuing the search.

Why not just bring in a bunch of K9 units, SWAT with nightvision, and helicopters with search lights to that area and try to find him immediately while they were still hot on his trail? They had a huge advantage at that time.

They basically gave him a headstart to escape and/or plan something new and they seemingly have no idea where he is now - a house, car, subway... And if he's holed up in a house now it's most likely a hostage situation which seems much more dangerous than just trying to catch him while he was running through the streets.

They... did?

(Except for the helis)

 

[Joel Was Right]

older dude "dedicated his life to jihad." so it has to do with religious fundamentalism.

Source?

 

[Vire]

Former FBI agent on CNN is surprised they haven't found him yet.

 

[Hari Seldon]

so you're method is to evacuate the neighborhood?

Yes. Dude has bombs and can take hostages. Evacuating the neighborhood would lead to his capture in the most safe and least constitutionally busting manner.

 

[Ace Harding]

What I don't understand is how law enforcement were in a foot pursuit with the suspect (meaning they were extremely close to him) but then lost him and decided to basically give up and wait until daylight before continuing the search.

Why not just bring in a bunch of K9 units, SWAT with nightvision, and helicopters with search lights to that area and try to find him immediately while they were still hot on his trail? They had a huge advantage at that time.

They basically gave him a headstart to escape and/or plan something new and they seemingly have no idea where he is now - a house, car, subway... And if he's holed up in a house now it's most likely a hostage situation which seems much more dangerous than just trying to catch him while he was running through the streets.

They didn't just give up chasing him. They lost track of him. They have been searching since the shootout. They did not "wait until daylight."

 

[FStop7]

Any updates on Kevin In-N-Out Brennan?

 

[pulga]

Yeah that definitely happened last night. They even had stupid gifs going back and forth between his photos and suspect 2. It was so stupid.

Im still waiting for my crow from the Sunil conspiracy nuts.

Goddamn fiends, plotting from the shadows.

 

[StopMakingSense]

I think it's always a disadvantage.

Mostly disadvantage, but a chance of suspect attempting to move.

Mostly disadvantage totally though.

 

[Devolution]

Can someone explain me the Twitter picture? Why did they though the suspects where from the Czhect Republic? It seems to me just pure confusion rather than stupidity.

They're from Kyrgyzstan and Dagestan then moved to the U.S.

 

[TheJerit]

Obviously not, because this isn't the first time this shit has happened. Internet hero is no better than Wolf Blitzer at shitting their pants trying to be first to act.

See my other response. You honestly don't think the last 50 or so pages since that went down hasn't beaten that into the ground yet? If not, then please, by all means, continue to e-chide away. I'm sure they won't do it again next time, they promise.

 

[BronsonLee]

Sorry Sir, I must have forgotten my limits.

Honestly, who the fuck are you to quote dozens of posts in an attempt to post a derogatory comment towards juniors?

We know what has happened. We know who is behind it. We know what risks there may lie. But, perhaps, some of us just hold the right to be free from intrusion in your own house just that important that it makes us wonder, if it is truly worth it. It's a matter of principle, and there is no right or wrong. So don't tell me not to question certain things.

Back to the topic, your comment just annoyed me.

It's voluntary. You can say no. Feel free!

If it makes you feel better, BruiserBear isn't a junior!

 

[Norml]

I don't see how he got away,shouldn't hound dogs be able to track him really easy if on foot?

 

[MThanded]

This guy is probably dead somewhere.

 

[GazzaScotland]

Do you guys think the night time is an advantage or disadvantage for the cops?

I would say a disadvantage but it could be the time he tries to move which could help them locate him.

 

[harriet the spy]

I still think it's incredible that the entire city of Boston is on lockdown.

Well let me tell you, while I understand why they do it, it really fucking sucks. :/

I hope they catch the bastard soon.

 

[The Lamonster]

Lots of ignorant juniors in this thread. I think I'll post this link with a photo gallery to just remind you why this has happened.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/16/us/boston-marathon-explosions

Seriously man? Was it really worth your effort to compile all this shit just to call everyone out? Not very constructive, IMO.

 

[dave is ok]

I can't believe two Czechoslovakian brothers were capable of all of this

 

[StopMakingSense]

Can someone explain me the Twitter picture? Why did they though the suspects where from the Czhect Republic? It seems to me just pure confusion rather than stupidity.

People not realizing Chechens aren't from CR.

 

[Valjean Lafitte]

Because they are batshit crazy evil fucks? I mean once you cross the line you are willing to coldly and with forethought murder men, women and children then I dont expect any kind of logical behaviour.

They are just mad dogs who need to be stopped.

I hope this is a joke post. The world isn't so monochrome.