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Boston: One dead, one captured, city re-opened

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The difference is that the internet has no accountability. If CNN or investigators out an innocent man and hound him over it, they can be sued and people can be fired. There's no risk to the rampant speculation that you're Joe Reddit/4Chan guy does so they always invariably go to far, even if it's a minority of them.

The News Media is rarely held accountable.
 
No idea but SO MANY people are aware of his disappearance now. Maybe someone will notice him somewhere.

In reality, I doubt that many people know of him. They never rolled his photo on the news. Very few people in reality must have ever seen that thread.
 
I think you're over-interpreting it in light of what's happened. That doesn't sound any different from "inspiration" quote some people like to post on social media.

I don't know. To me they sound like he could foresee this kind of thing as a possible outcome, it's what they were training for.
 
Stop making excuses. Would you have gone through with it because big bro thought it was a cool idea? Nope. Why? Because you aren't a bad person.

He's not a great normal guy, and no one should say he is. He waited for his chance to show you what he was really capable of. I know where this guy sits on the spectrum of "throw yourself on a bomb to save a child" and "detonates a bomb to kill a child". Not great, not normal.

I'm sorry he had to go through compulsory schooling to make you all think you have something in common with him.
 
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What is he doing here? Did he just give up? lol I was at work all day, I heard about the whole boat thing but did they negotiate him out or did they move in and just pile on him?
 
Ain't no love in the heart of the city, stay safe people

Reading his tweets is kinda eye opening. Going from what all of his friends have said about him and reading stuff he posted he seems like he just followed his big brothers lead.

Yeah, I get the feeling he was less of some sort of an extremist, and more of someone with issues whom was guided and followed his older brothers lead. He feels more like the school shooter type if anything. Sad that any of this happened.
 
So the guy has been arrested? Great job, law enforcement!

The dude better recover so that we can get the truth from him. What could make him do something so terrible?
 
What is he doing here? Did he just give up? lol I was at work all day, I heard about the whole boat thing but did they negotiate him out or did they move in and just pile on him?
They had a negotiator try to speak with him and there was some level of a shootout.

Don't know which came first, I probably missed that detail. Guess after some time in the stand off he came out.
 
I'm really hoping this guy apologises, asks for forgiveness and takes whatever punishment he gets. That would be the best conclusion to this poisonous tragedy.
 
Yeah, I get the feeling he was less of some sort of an extremist, and more of someone with issues whom was guided and followed his older brothers lead. He feels more like the school shooter type if anything. Sad that any of this happened.

The media's questioning of acquaintances kept trying to guide the interviews in that sort of direction - quiet, possible loner and all that, the sort you always see them describe school shooters. But the answers given didn't seem to paint him in that sort of picture at all.

I do get the impression that he was guided by his brother into extremism, but that doesn't excuse what he did. Some people in this thread have made comments suggesting that this kid looks so innocent and much of the blame probably rests on his brother and I think that is pretty bullshit.

He went through with all of it, he is an adult and he is responsible for his own actions.
 
What is he doing here? Did he just give up? lol I was at work all day, I heard about the whole boat thing but did they negotiate him out or did they move in and just pile on him?

Just too tired and injured to keep fighting. I don't think he surrendered per se, just could not keep fighting. He had no choice unless he wanted to take one to the temple.
 
I heard on the radio (620 WTMJ Milwaukee) he was showing up to school after the bombings too, is that correct?

He was at school on Wednesday. He is said to have attended class, gone to the gym, and even attended a party. They know he was on the campus because of the electronic key-cards students carry.
 
He was at school on Wednesday. He is said to have attended class, gone to the gym, and even attended a party. They know he was on the campus because of the electronic key-cards students carry.

They probably thought they got away with it, once the FBI figured out who they were looking for they probably shit themselves and this happened.
 
There are so many oddities in their behaviour, during and after they placed the bombs, that makes it difficult for me to categorise them as conventional terrorists. Maybe it's merely because the younger one looks so young, and acts like a kid on his twitter, that we want to believe he was manipulated in some way and that he didn't want this. Personally speaking? I don't think that is playing a large part in my attitude but I get the impression we may see a story emerge that goes beyond the typical terrorist plot in terms of their motivations. The younger one grew up in the states from a small age. People are naturally curious as to how/when he became radicalised.

Remember the original photos? He didn't even think to hide his face, whereas his brother came with shades and wore his cap forward. It's no coincidence the photo of the 7-11 released is of the White Hat brother; he was the one most easily identifiable. Is that naivety? Arrogance? And then to give yourself up to the police later? What kind of Jihadi is that? He apparently, unlike his brother, did not wear an explosive vest. We don't know much yet, but of what we do know, there is certainly a distinction between the two.
 
I really hope the reports of total violations of the 4th amendment turn out false, don't want this to set a dangerous president for how the police can act.


Also why do the police have tanks? I find the show of force more scary then the bombing
 
I really hope the reports of total violations of the 4th amendment turn out false, don't want this to set a dangerous president for how the police can act.


Also why do the police have tanks? I find the show of force more scary then the bombing

You find police taking caution and not injuring any civilians worse than the death and injuries of innocent people from the bombings?

What.

I get the whole "WE HAVE RIGHTS AND THEY CAN'T GO INTO MY HOUSE" but this whole situation it was very justified and handheld well. Seriously.
 
I really hope the reports of total violations of the 4th amendment turn out false, don't want this to set a dangerous president for how the police can act.


Also why do the police have tanks? I find the show of force more scary then the bombing

What reports of violations of the 4th amendment?
 
I really hope the reports of total violations of the 4th amendment turn out false, don't want this to set a dangerous president for how the police can act.


Also why do the police have tanks? I find the show of force more scary then the bombing

By tank I assume you really mean armored vehicles?
 
You find police taking caution and not injuring any civilians worse than the death and injuries of innocent people from the bombings?

What.

I'll make my self clear. I find the police kicking in doors to search houses without a warrant more terrifying then the bombing. I like I said I hope its not true.
 
I really hope the reports of total violations of the 4th amendment turn out false, don't want this to set a dangerous president for how the police can act.


Also why do the police have tanks? I find the show of force more scary then the bombing

Agree. It's always more scary to me the potential for law enforcement abuse than random acts of terror.

The bombing was terrible and all, but it killed 4 people. I'm sure many times that died on the nations highways the last few days. It's not something we should be giving up our freedoms for.
 
Agree. It's always more scary to me the potential for law enforcement abuse than random acts of terror.

The bombing was terrible and all, but it killed 4 people. I'm sure many times that died on the nations highways the last few days. It's not something we should be giving up our freedoms for.

Yeah, they were trying to take away our guns.
 
There are so many oddities in their behaviour, during and after they placed the bombs, that makes it difficult for me to categorise them as conventional terrorists. Maybe it's merely because the younger one looks so young, and acts like a kid on his twitter, that we want to believe he was manipulated in some way and that he didn't want this. Personally speaking? I don't think that is playing a large part in my attitude but I get the impression we may see a story emerge that goes beyond the typical terrorist plot in terms of their motivations. The younger one grew up in the states from a small age. People are naturally curious as to how/when he became radicalised.

Remember the original photos? He didn't even think to hide his face, whereas his brother came with shades and wore his cap forward. It's no coincidence the photo of the 7-11 released is of the White Hat brother; he was the one most easily identifiable. Is that naivety? Arrogance? And then to give yourself up to the police later? What kind of Jihadi is that? He apparently, unlike his brother, did not wear an explosive vest. We don't know much yet, but of what we do know, there is certainly a distinction between the two.

19 is too old to be manipulated into doing something so stupid. He wanted to do it and enjoyed it, hence why he did it. I sure as hell know I and many other people here weren't that gullible and stupid at 19. I wasn't even that gullible and stupid at 13-15.

Agree. It's always more scary to me the potential for law enforcement abuse than random acts of terror.

The bombing was terrible and all, but it killed 4 people. I'm sure many times that died on the nations highways the last few days. It's not something we should be giving up our freedoms for.

Seriously? Unless something that we don't know about occurred, the officers conducted themselves in the most professional of ways possible. They were completely justified to move out in the level of force that they did for this guy. 4 people dead, but over 61 people lost their legs, man. The number of deaths don't diminish the seriousness of what happened and the very serious steps that were needed to deal with it. One 8 year old dying while eating some ice cream is one death too many.
 
He just surrendered because he was shot up, bleeding, and scared of death.

He could have surrendered earlier, he chose not to. And he chose to shoot at police.
Yeah, that last exchange is strange to me. When he knew he was cornered in the boat why he didn't surrender quicker.

You'd think if he was against getting captured to the point of firing at cops he would have tried to off himself with an explosive or something.
 
Agree. It's always more scary to me the potential for law enforcement abuse than random acts of terror.

The bombing was terrible and all, but it killed 4 people. I'm sure many times that died on the nations highways the last few days. It's not something we should be giving up our freedoms for.


I agree, also look to see what 911 did to air travel in this county


Yeah, they were trying to take away our guns.

Oh boy here we go
 
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